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Stallworth getting 30 days for DUI manslaughter is ridiculous. He killed a pedestrian! He should be doing serious time, not getting a slap on the wrist. Looks like the NFL is taking a stronger stand then the justice system. Regardless of the settlement with the family, losing his salary perhaps his career, still wouldn't bring back the victim and the pain to the family.
 

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and the Patriots get away with cheating winning games and the super bowls
the motherfukker commissioner should be suspended for destroying the evidance, asshole
 

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I saw this suspension coming. The commish doesn't play around. He should be suspended for life.
 

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The commish only does this shit to black folk. It took forever for Matt Jones to get his little four game suspension. All Jared Allen got was a little 4 game suspension and he has three DUI's.

I sense a big time lawsuit coming to the NFL one of these days. A DUI these days are more common then they were in the old M.A.D.D. days. Just because the commish felt that Donte did a good job lawyering up and got a kick ass plea deal, it doesn't give him the right to fuck with his employment with the NFL.
 

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The commish only does this shit to black folk. It took forever for Matt Jones to get his little four game suspension. All Jared Allen got was a little 4 game suspension and he has three DUI's.

I sense a big time lawsuit coming to the NFL one of these days. A DUI these days are more common then they were in the old M.A.D.D. days. Just because the commish felt that Donte did a good job lawyering up and got a kick ass plea deal, it doesn't give him the right to fuck with his employment with the NFL.

I asked this question in an earlier thread. How come the NFLPA or a lawyer for a suspended player doesn't take the NFL to court, as they restricting a person's ability to earn a living in their chosen field. So, now Roger Goddell gets to play God?
 

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You can't suspend a player indefitnly in the NFL for long. There has to be a definition of the suspension.

This rule came about with the offensive lineman who got a flag thrown in his eye by a ref in a game whom he pushed after the fact and yelled at. The injury almost ruined his career and it took a year and a half for the NFL to relent.
 

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You can't suspend a player indefitnly in the NFL for long. There has to be a definition of the suspension.

This rule came about with the offensive lineman who got a flag thrown in his eye by a ref in a game whom he pushed after the fact and yelled at. The injury almost ruined his career and it took a year and a half for the NFL to relent.
Ummmm....see Pacman Jones
 

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The commish only does this shit to black folk. It took forever for Matt Jones to get his little four game suspension. All Jared Allen got was a little 4 game suspension and he has three DUI's.

I sense a big time lawsuit coming to the NFL one of these days. A DUI these days are more common then they were in the old M.A.D.D. days. Just because the commish felt that Donte did a good job lawyering up and got a kick ass plea deal, it doesn't give him the right to fuck with his employment with the NFL.
Love how you guys are comparing DUIs and drugs to KILLING someone. WTF is wrong with you people? Guy should be serving life in prison but you think he should be able to make millions playing football. :think2:^<<^
 

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He won't stay suspended indefinitely for long, the players union would never allow that - nor should they. My guess is he's given a six-game suspension.
 

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He's spending 30 days in Jail plus 2 years house arrest. The difference is when he hit the guy, he stop, stayed accepted all responsibilities immediately.

He fucked up but he didn't make it worse by running or trying to drag it out.

How many games is Leaonard Little miss. 8?

I'm guessing Stallworth is missing the season.
 

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He's spending 30 days in Jail plus 2 years house arrest. The difference is when he hit the guy, he stop, stayed accepted all responsibilities immediately.

He fucked up but he didn't make it worse by running or trying to drag it out.

How many games is Leaonard Little miss. 8?

I'm guessing Stallworth is missing the season.


Let's not blame everything on DS. The guy who was killed was running accross a highway trying to catch a bus. He was not in a crosswalk and he was not paying attention.

He probally would have been killed even if DS was sober. That's why DS only got 30 days in jail. If it was totally DS fault the Judge would have given him a few years and DS would not have taken the plea.

In FL they have a no fault law or something like that...

I wonder if the family gets % of DS salary. If so, I am sure they want him to play.
 

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Let's not blame everything on DS. The guy who was killed was running accross a highway trying to catch a bus. He was not in a crosswalk and he was not paying attention.

He probally would have been killed even if DS was sober. That's why DS only got 30 days in jail. If it was totally DS fault the Judge would have given him a few years and DS would not have taken the plea.

In FL they have a no fault law or something like that...

I wonder if the family gets % of DS salary. If so, I am sure they want him to play.

I agree that the dead guy's just as much to blame for crossing a highway and not paying attention, but are you saying that they treated this case and this case SHOULD be treated just like a regular DUI case and the dead guy's just an unfortunate, "accidental" casualty? I don't know the DUI laws in FL but that's what the judgment certainly seems like. He paid a little fine and gets 30 days.

There's so many "if's" to this that no one will ever be satisfied. I mean what if Stallworth was fuckin hammered and way above the alcohol limit? Would that change the sentencing? What if he somehow hit a car that was speeding and was full of people and all of them die? Would it still be treated the same if they conclude that any other driver would've done the same and that it was the other car's fault as well b/c it was speeding?
 

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I agree that the dead guy's just as much to blame for crossing a highway and not paying attention, but are you saying that they treated this case and this case SHOULD be treated just like a regular DUI case and the dead guy's just an unfortunate, "accidental" casualty? I don't know the DUI laws in FL but that's what the judgment certainly seems like. He paid a little fine and gets 30 days.

There's so many "if's" to this that no one will ever be satisfied. I mean what if Stallworth was fuckin hammered and way above the alcohol limit? Would that change the sentencing? What if he somehow hit a car that was speeding and was full of people and all of them die? Would it still be treated the same if they conclude that any other driver would've done the same and that it was the other car's fault as well b/c it was speeding?

In FL, just b/c you are drunk does not make every accident your fault.

Like If I am hammered sitting a light and a car slams into me and kills the driver of the other car, I should not be at fault for manslaughter. I didn't write the law. Just what i read in a article...

Seemed like DA had a weak case and gave a plea for lack of proof.
They would have had to prove that him having a 1.2 BAC would of caused the accident. They could not do it so they gave a plea. If he had a strong case he woulda went after the publicity and made his name in the media.

just imo..

have a good 1...
 

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For those of you who may have forgotten.....Leonard Little killed a 47 year old mother 10 years ago while DUI and he too got away with it. Then, he was arrested again 5 years later for DUI once again, a felony and................he got off again. I cant even imagine how the families feel here.........man is the justice system fucked up.

Reliving the pain

For one St. Louis man, recent DUI arrest of Rams' Little hits home


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Sometimes he'll see them, kids and adults, alike, with Leonard Little's No. 91 jersey on their back. He'll hear the fans roar after their hero flings a quarterback to the turf. Maybe he'll catch a talking head singing Little's praises or read where the Rams' defensive end is Pro Bowl-bound -- and instinctively, as he's come to do these last five years, Bill Gutweiler will bow his head and stare at the ground.
"It almost kills me,'' says Gutweiler, his voice rising. "God, man, don't you people know?''
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!--endclickprintexclude-->Gutweiler isn't afraid to say he hates the Rams' leading sacker. Some nightmarish memories just get etched deep into our DNA, so it's naive to expect the widower to forgive and forget.
If you follow the NFL, you too ought not forget what Little did on that October 1998 night. Drunk and speeding in his luxury Navigator SUV, Little ran a stoplight on a downtown St. Louis street and plodded broadside into Susan Gutweiler's car. Twelve hours later Gutweiler's wife died. We'll spare you the gore, but suffice to say the 47-year-old suffered traumatic head and neck injuries.
Gutweiler prayed that Little be sent away for a long time. Instead, after copping a plea to involuntary manslaughter, he drew a 90-day sentence in the city workhouse, four years probation and 1,000 hours of community service. The NFL suspended him for eight games in 1999, but life went on and in 2002 the St. Louis Rams re-worked Little's contract, signing him to a five-year, $17.5 million deal.
So when I read the brief item about Little being pulled over for suspicion of driving while intoxicated, which was nearly lost in the hysteria over last weekend's NFL Draft, I felt a jolt of rage in flashing back. Then I thought of Gutweiler and his son, Michael, now 21. What must they be thinking?
"Man, I'll tell you, when I heard it I just dropped on the couch,'' Gutweiler told me. "The first thing I thought was, 'No, he can't be this stupid. He just can't be this stupid.'''
Believe it. Police say they clocked Little's 2003 Mercedes Benz S500 at 78 mph in a 55 zone at 3:44 a.m. last Saturday. OK, so he was heavy on the pedal. But then, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the arresting officer wrote: Little "attempted and failed three sobriety tests,'' and "admitted to drinking alcoholic beverages.''
This is bittersweet news for Gutweiler. Another life wasn't taken, fortunately. And the judicial system may finally bring the hammer down, with the Pro Bowler facing up to four years in prison for his latest DUI arrest. But this week has brought back all the dark memories, followed by bouts of anger at a system that in his mind failed miserably and the realization that a gifted young athlete who apparently still doesn't get it.
As you might imagine, Gutweiler has been, in his words, a nervous wreck. He fumes while Little's high-priced lawyer portrays his 29-year-old client as a shy, kind soul in the local media and his latest transgression little more than rolling through a stop sign.
Gutweiler acknowledges receiving a "small settlement'' from Little, though never an apology or sympathetic word from the player or the city's NFL franchise. That bugs him.
"You figure after five years this man couldn't have wrote my son a letter -- tell him how sorry he was in his own little words,'' Gutweiler pleads. "God, I know I would have. It wouldn't take no five years.''
The father finds what solace he can these days in breaking away on long bike rides -- 30 miles Sunday, 15 Wednesday night. And then, as he speaks with emotion and yet coolly under control, you realize this is a man who has had far too much experience coping with grief. In 1980, the Gutweiler's seven-year-old daughter, Jill -- remembered by dad as "absolutely gorgeous'' -- was struck by a car and killed. Three years later, he lost his brother, Tim, in a car accident.
It is what he learned from the painful bout dealing with his daughter's death that strengthens him today. For the longest time, he describes himself as being extremely bitter, believing if it was anyone but an inexperienced, 16-year-old girl behind the wheel that his child might still be alive. He credits his wife with shocking him out of it, telling him to buy into the belief that it happened for a reason or she was leaving.
"So that is kind of the way I felt about this whole thing,'' he said. "I tried to act like [Little] never existed. It was the only way I survived. If I had stayed with the anger, I just don't know what I would have done. And I know that isn't easy, cause every time I see him I could just kill him.''
The problem is you can't escape the reaches of a celebrity. It isn't like Little makes St. Louis his offseason home and then goes off and plays in Seattle or another distant outpost. You can't avoid the newspapers. You can't turn off the TV or silence the radio. You have to live.
And Gutweiler, a magazine distributor by day, freelances as a sports photographer, working a handful of Rams games a season for the likes of Sports Illustrated and The Associated Press. A full schedule, yes. But if, and when Little comes to trial, Gutweiler will make time to be in the courtroom.
"If the system works, maybe this time he'll come out with more than a slap on his hand,'' he says.
You would hope so.

Mike Fish is a senior writer for SI.com.
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Drinking and driving is dumb.
Running across a highway is dumb.

Both are good ways to die.

Not every person who is drunk is at fault. There's a very good chance a sober driver would have killed the guy too. .12 is not wasted. Very slightly impaired for many people.

I do not condone drinking and driving, but if I go out and get in my car shitfaced and some dude decided to sleep under it and I run him over, I surely should get charged for DUI, but not manslaughter. People need to take responsibility for their actions and running across 395 is dumb.

How many of you run across highways?

Sean
 

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hear is the deal. In Florida the DA would have to prove that Stallworth caused the accident. If he doesn't cause the accident than he is not necessarily responsible for the accident, hence not responcible for the guys death. This is from the Florida statute 316.119. Clearly the DA thought there wasn't a chance in hell he could prove that Stallworth caused the accident. Which is obvious because the guy was jaywalking.

So basically if this did go to trial he wouldn't have been convicted of DUI manslaughter. He would have probably been convicted of a regular run of the mill DUI. And as it would have been his 1st offense he would've gotten no more than a $1000 fine, 50 hours community service, probation of not more than 1 year, and no more than 6 months is jail, and that "jail" can be a drug abuse treatment program. At the most he would have gotten a DUI misdemeanor conviction which isn't much worse than the above.
 

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send a message that counts and make it a life sentence

some of you guys are nuts. You can't just sentence a guy to life. Even if this was an average Joe you wouldn't have gotten much jail time. Sure the average guy gets way more than 30 days, but life is insane. The DA made the plea agreement because he knew that there was not a chance of getting a DUI manslughter conviction because he couldn't prove that Stallworth caused the accident. Some of you guys may not like it but that is how the law is written in the state of Florida.
 

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