i dont like systems but sometimes i incorporate them into my capping and use them while they are hot.. what you mentioned is not what im doing -- although i am using a form of a system that ive been on since last friday, lets just see how the next couple of weeks go and then ill talk.. no need to say anything now, if it winds up not working.. although this is only a peice of what i do, im a handicapper at heart and not a systems player..