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Sports bettors can do well in poker, not as easy for poker guys to beat sports.
 

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Rail, I would think at least a few of Baxter, Brunson, Reese, Tomko, Appleman, Boston, Sklansky, Ungar, Pearson,etc..may agree with this hypothesis?
 

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Youre both right


funny you mention Ungar horeshoe. Thats what I heard, he was a poker genious who made duffle bag loads of money playing the game but was a compulsive gambler who lost a lot of it back at sports
 

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Rob, I've heard he was literally handing money off the table as fast as he could win it..for horse hookups, blow, ball games,etc..his movie implies as much.

Many say Ungar was the best poker talent ever!
 

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As I have stated a couple times on this forum before, I was a small acquaintance of Stu.

Once we were sitting in the Mirage Race and Sportsbook together shooting the shit and he lost over $200,000 on ONE horse race.

I remember liking a college football game after that and he bet it large because I liked it and it actually won.

Stu died only a few months after this. :(

-FISH-

ps- I just rented the movie HIGH ROLLER last evening and was planning on watching it today ........if I can stand to.
 

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Fishhead said:
As I have stated a couple times on this forum before, I was a small acquaintance of Stu.

Once we were sitting in the Mirage Race and Sportsbook together shooting the shit and he lost over $200,000 on ONE horse race.

I remember liking a college football game after that and he bet it large because I liked it and it actually won.

Stu died only a few months after this. :(

-FISH-

ps- I just rented the movie HIGH ROLLER last evening and was planning on watching it today ........if I can stand to.

Just completed watching the movie and liked it much better than I thought I would considering the bad reviews it received.

Very sentimental movie to me in many ways.
 

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So you are taking credit for sending him to his grave? I assume your bet lost!

:howdy:
 

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Jarbo said:
So you are taking credit for sending him to his grave? I assume your bet lost!

:howdy:

Jarbo- I dont really consider that to funny because I always liked Stu and its a tragedy what happened to him. I know you meant no harm though.

-F-

ps- By the way, the bet won............it was ARIZONA -11 over IOWA and the Wildcats won by like 25+ points rather easily.
 

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Yes - no harm intended. Sorry you lost a friend.

I remember the game well.
 

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No harm, no foul.

-F-

PS- I hope you get a chance to visit my nieces bar soon, hopefully I can make it back for a game and join you there.
 

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"Sports bettors can do well in poker, not as easy for poker guys to beat sports"

I tend to think there are different types of each kind of player. you can't really throw a blanket over all of them. myself i am a "natural" sports bettor having grew up totally involved in sports and the statistics there-in. i can remember at 8-9 years old studying box scores for hours everyday. not for betting purposes but because i loved it and therefore later on i "naturally" had a big advantage when it came to the spread end of sportsbetting.

Poker has been the total opposite. it is something i have "learned" by experiance and that came much later in life. i dont have the natural abilities to play poker that i had in sports betting and therefore that experiance has come at the expense of quite a few dollars out of my pocket.

The reason i have now chosen to concentrate more on poker than sports betting has to do with the size of my bankroll more than anything else. ive never had the size bankroll required to make a living at sportsbetting...i.e. im poor...lol wagering 3 figures tops a game on sports even hitting 55-65% could not support me and 1 losing streak and i would be back to 2 figure bets....with poker as i said in another thread the other day im risking 40 bucks or so a day to win thousands....im playing the equivalent of 10 team parlays everyday and actually hitting a few every month....overall with my bankroll its the only way to go.

having said all that todays the 12th of the month and ive only hit a few 2 teamers in poker this month so far, sure hope a 10 teamer comes along soon! :toast:
 
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I think it requires two distinct different personalities. Been involved at both, but from my casual observations the number guys, with high math aptitudes, and strong memories are naturals at poker. The analytical or thinkers gravitate towards sports. I had a buddy, and we both played both. But he was a math star. He knew what odds, were applicable with every turn of the card. He was always focused on the game, and in the know. Me, I just paid attention at times, lost interest after a few hours and wandered to sportsbook. He stayed playing poker, I stayed playing sports. Although we both have a bunch of similarities, the differences are fast math calculations, and the personality to grind through wild fluctuations. Me, I analyze and cap everything. Not just sports, beauty contests, fishing, stuff in everyday life. I prefer winning consistently, at a high percentage. I personally feel confined playing poker. I probably feel a repsect for the poker players, at least the successful ones, because I feel I do not have what it takes, and they do. Although both have to have risk aversion, and a gambling trait, the card players just wait their turn. I like the consistent returns. Could I do both, nope.

Best Wishes...OF:howdy:
 

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Personally, I think horse racing bettors would do better at Poker than sports bettors as they have to look at more variables, have to be more mathematical and have more problems to solve than in sports betting.

Sports bettors whilst probably have the discipline would be a little one-dimentional IMO to be really successful in poker but I'm sure there are exceptions.

Poker players on the whole rely too much on gut feel and this would be very dangerous in either sports or horse racing.
 

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Poker is easier to master for one major reason. You can pick out the bad players and play against them for the most part. in sports betting you are always going up against the best oddsmakers (give or take). When i play poker i find tables with players i know i can beat more often than not.
 

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