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The Sporting News, a long-time sports magazine has picked Oregon to win their first national championship during the first ever college football playoff. Oregon is joined by Alabama, Florida State and Oklahoma in the final four matchups. The Ducks are predicted to beat FSU in the first round and Oklahoma in the title game.

National Title Odds (LVSuperBook)
Florida State 4/1
Oregon 5/1
Alabama 6/1
Ohio State 10/1
Auburn 12/1
Oklahoma 12/1
UCLA 18/1

Nothing against the Ducks, but they better figure out how to beat Stanford first (0-2 last two seasons) before measuring for any rings.

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Both losses were a tossup. I might be a year off, but they needed to beat Andrew Luck the first time and get their revenge at Stanford Stadium last season with Mariota playing the whole month of November on a bad wheel... which by the way affected his game to an obviously huge extent. Let them at least have a healthy QB and have nothing more than an average injury count elsewhere, then we should see the genuine Ducks play Stanford without one hand tied behind their back for a change.
 

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Both losses were a tossup. I might be a year off, but they needed to beat Andrew Luck the first time and get their revenge at Stanford Stadium last season with Mariota playing the whole month of November on a bad wheel... which by the way affected his game to an obviously huge extent. Let them at least have a healthy QB and have nothing more than an average injury count elsewhere, then we should see the genuine Ducks play Stanford without one hand tied behind their back for a change.

Toss up. Did you watch the game at Palo Alto, despite the late comeback, they were dominated.
 

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Both losses were a tossup. I might be a year off, but they needed to beat Andrew Luck the first time and get their revenge at Stanford Stadium last season with Mariota playing the whole month of November on a bad wheel... which by the way affected his game to an obviously huge extent. Let them at least have a healthy QB and have nothing more than an average injury count elsewhere, then we should see the genuine Ducks play Stanford without one hand tied behind their back for a change.

You are very good poster, but this is why I think you get accused of being a homer. The final score was close, but the game was controlled by Stanford.
 

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Mr. B...yeah Conon is a homer...but in most cases I think he presents a fair position for the Ducks.

I'm a Bama homer...and I really try to represent a fair story regarding the Tide.

The one thing I take for granted from guys like Conan, GoSooners, Mack, Rush, Coach, RT, Mr. A and so many others here on this forum is they love college football...and are GIVERS, not self-promoters.

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You are very good poster, but this is why I think you get accused of being a homer. The final score was close, but the game was controlled by Stanford.
BTD, their offense wasn't present even in one piece. You are right though. Had the Ducks won, it would have been an ugly victory. But by coincidence I had labeled many of Stanford's victories last year as just a lot of ways of "winning ugly." I wasn't the only one to make that comment. You won't hear anybody putting Oregon in the same pigeon hole as they did to the Cardinal. Personally I think their offense is a mere shadow of what it has been recently. IMHO that cost them the Rose Bowl vs MSU.
 

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And as for the homer comment. I know when I am doing that. I don't deny it. Who do you know here that makes a case for the Ducks aside from me and RedEye? Were it not for us "homers" I can easily see Oregon being ground into the dirt and sorry my man, that just doesn't fit. It has been happening ever since Ferris Beuhler made them his "source of aggravation" or stick in the eye for Oregon fans... just prior to Fulmer blowing the Vols off and himself being put out to pasture.

You probably haven't noticed that I am very hard on the Ducks where they are weak. I pull no punches but where they at least have a case to be made on their behalf, who else do you know that can at least talk intelligently about it?
 

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Mariotta on one wheel made a huge difference in that game.. If he is healthy, everything changes..Alot less 3 and outs, means Stanford is not offense as much and the defense isn't on the field getting worn down. When was the last Oregon game anybody watched where the QB didn't run the ball ?.. Oregon kicked the crap out of Stanford in 10 & 11 so it can happen.. That is recent results
 

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Mariotta on one wheel made a huge difference in that game.. If he is healthy, everything changes..Alot less 3 and outs, means Stanford is not offense as much and the defense isn't on the field getting worn down. When was the last Oregon game anybody watched where the QB didn't run the ball ?.. Oregon kicked the crap out of Stanford in 10 & 11 so it can happen.. That is recent results

And, this years game will be played in Eugene; If the Ducks can get-by with a win against MSU early and a win in Pasadena in mid-October against UCLA, the drum-beat will be very loud in Autzen when the Cardinals show-up on November 1st. Talk about a "pumped-up", home team crowd (Stanford will have it's hands full). The 2014 Oregon schedule is one of the reasons why I think the Ducks have a chance to win [it] all. The stakes are very high indeed.
 

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And, this years game will be played in Eugene; If the Ducks can get-by with a win against MSU early and a win in Pasadena in mid-October against UCLA, the drum-beat will be very loud in Autzen when the Cardinals show-up on November 1st. Talk about a "pumped-up", home team crowd (Stanford will have it's hands full). The 2014 Oregon schedule is one of the reasons why I think the Ducks have a chance to win [it] all. The stakes are very high indeed.

Hasn't the Pac 12 championship game moved to a neutral site in Bay area ? Think the Ducks could get into the 4 team playoff with 1 loss
 

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Hasn't the Pac 12 championship game moved to a neutral site in Bay area ? Think the Ducks could get into the 4 team playoff with 1 loss
Yes the Pac-12 CG will be played in Santa Clara in brand new Levi's Stadium (new home of the 49ers) on Friday, Dec. 5th at 6PM (PST)

You could be right about a 1-loss Oregon team making the playoffs, especially if that loss happens at the Rose Bowl when the Ducks hit the road and play UCLA in a regularly scheduled conference game in October. The rematch in the CCG vs UCLA seems very likely to happen and it would definitely settle the one-loss issue if it does.

I believe UCLA will win the southern division. Since last season, ASU's losses were huge and USC having a new HC themselves leaves the Bruins as the most likely team to be the last man standing (in the south.) Utah and Colorado are not ready to claim any championship at this time.

The new CG venue may look like an advantage to either SF bay area school, Cal or Stanford but it's a good 3-3½ Hr. ride up there from Palo Alto/San Jose. I doubt that Cal will win the North for a long time and Stanford should be irrelevant this year as a contender for the North division title. (I could be wrong about that but I doubt it.) Aside from the Cardinal losing their entire starting OL, their schedule is oppressive and brutal.

Since I brought up the subject of the north division race, I may as well elaborate a bit to put some things into perspective.

Just to throw a curve ball at the situation, Stanford's offense plays better when their QB doesn't throw the ball and Washington is breaking in a new QB as are the Cal bears. WSU's QB Conner Halliday is a senior who fits well and throws well in Mike Leach's aerial offense (between numerous interceptions.)

The two remaining QBs in the Pac-12 north are special players. One of them is (of course) junior Marcus Mariota the Heisman front runner this year as he was last year until messing up his knee which had a huge impact on his game to close out the regular season. The other is senior Sean Mannion, Oregon State's quarterback who barring injury is a cinch to make the top 10 all time CFB career passing leaders with a shot at making the top 5 with 15,000 career passing yards.
 

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And as for the homer comment. I know when I am doing that. I don't deny it. Who do you know here that makes a case for the Ducks aside from me and RedEye? Were it not for us "homers" I can easily see Oregon being ground into the dirt and sorry my man, that just doesn't fit. It has been happening ever since Ferris Beuhler made them his "source of aggravation" or stick in the eye for Oregon fans... just prior to Fulmer blowing the Vols off and himself being put out to pasture.

You probably haven't noticed that I am very hard on the Ducks where they are weak. I pull no punches but where they at least have a case to be made on their behalf, who else do you know that can at least talk intelligently about it?

Unfortunately, I completely agree with the bold.

As for the MSU game. I don't think Sparty wins in Eugene. Several factors for me:

1. Can MSU control the clock on the offensive side of the ball. I think MSU is going to get too much credit for the Stanford win going in to this game. Stanford is a great match up for MSU.
2. MM is going to be healthy. MH, second year running the program, I expect to see certain things just better from an operations perspective (more business management analogy than sports).
3. I think MSU loses some key pieces on defense. I know people will point to Stanford 2 years ago beating Oregon in Eugene. That was a conference game and I don't think MSU's is as effective on offense in 2014 as Stanford was in 2012.

I think this line around 10-12.
 

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Toss up. Did you watch the game at Palo Alto, despite the late comeback, they were dominated.
I've seen much better examples of domination other than that game BTD.
What I mean by that was a very "dominating" (if you will) offensive line
manhandle a small set of defensemen... which has been discussed plenty
in here. We hope that the piece I posted about Oregon's lines bulking up
en mass over the winter sufficiently addressed that issue.

What Stanford's offense pulled off was a pretty decent game of keep-away
so you see how I might not suggest that their own defense was all powerful,
but statistically I have little or nothing to counter with since it was a bad wheel
that put a cramp into Mariota's game, something no one expected to see... but
I had to replay the game since you brought it up.

After watching the game, I must say that was one hell of a time for Mariota's
knee brace to make its TV debut. Only then did the school reveal that their
star QB had been wearing a knee brace for the entire game. I knew nothing
about it -- certainly no more than anyone else. However I did happen to
notice that Marcus happened to be throwing off his back foot much more
than I had seen him do before, and he was consistently throwing high to his
receivers downfield. Not that I wish to belabor the point, but Mariota's own
difficulties do seem to knock some of the starch out of Stanford's defensive
game that day. In essence I guess you could say dominating, and you could
also say dominating. FWIW.

Just for a joke, what do you think of this game result being referred to as a
"toss-up" since I used the phrase to my homer-like dismay? There are many
ways to look at a "toss-up" when one is describing both a game and its outcome.

Do you know that the game ended with Oregon scoring 3 TD's in the final quarter,
2 of them in the last 3 or 4 minutes?

They kicked 3 on-sides kicks -- they missed the first but got the 2nd, then the Ducks
missed the last of their 3 on sides kicks. All 3 were fielded by a WR receiver that played
for Stanford named Jeff Trojan. After the 2nd of 3 onsides kicks, it all came down to
Trojan making a good catch on his 3rd try off the high bounce. In other words, maybe
a type of toss up??? That one didn't work for the Ducks.

With 2 minutes remaining, Stanford's offense had no problem running out the clock.

Actually there were 3 tossups. One was successfully retrieved by stanford. The second
by the Oregon Ducks, and the game decider, the 3rd of 3 was successfully caught by
Jeff Trojan, thus deciding the game by a single tossup.

(How terrible was that?)

cockingasnook()

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It's not a bad pick...but I just don't think Oregon (or a P12 team) could win 2 in a row (in the 4 team playoff) against real teams w/ real defenses.

I'm curious to see who plays QB for Bama. But right now, if I had to pick I'd take Florida State (and I HATE Florida State!)....
 

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