I think both sides have a strong case here and I can see either way on this. One thing that we don't know is when the deal was originally made what was discussed. When the deal was made, did Jake make it clear he wanted action. I think two bets per month could be seen as not giving action. Just an opinion. If Jake just said he'd match the $5k with $5k and 10x rollover and said nothign about the action he'd like then he should pay. My guess is that Jake and the guy made the agree with "King" udnerstanding he was supposed to play. Cutting the Internet limits is kind of wacky too though.
Final note for the day...
Limits were cut cuz the client was playing steam on the net. The lines would go black, I would take a hit, move my line, and this client would suddenly pop up as having placed a bet on the line that was moving. ANYONE who does that in my shop, will get their limits to $250 on the net. You want to bet steam? Pick up the phone.
KingofPoke,
A few quick questions. After our original conversation....did I, or did I not, tell you that I would take the bonus from you if you did not give us more regular action? How many times did I tell you that? After each time, and before we hung up, were you clear of what I expected and what the consequences would be???
Jake
Limits were cut cuz the client was playing steam on the net. The lines would go black, I would take a hit, move my line, and this client would suddenly pop up as having placed a bet on the line that was moving. ANYONE who does that in my shop, will get their limits to $250 on the net. You want to bet steam? Pick up the phone.
KingofPoke,
A few quick questions. After our original conversation....did I, or did I not, tell you that I would take the bonus from you if you did not give us more regular action? How many times did I tell you that? After each time, and before we hung up, were you clear of what I expected and what the consequences would be???
Jake
Jake,
Good excuse about the steam to cut my limits even though it isn't true. It's a good idea to make it up now that you're getting some heat for your actions. Yes you did complain that you wanted more action and I did bet about 10k in the last 30 days all though I don't know what the exact figure is since your software doesn't go back that far. You've shown that you just abritrarily change deals after they've been made. Probably had something to do with the fact that I was a winning player.
Good excuse about the steam to cut my limits even though it isn't true. It's a good idea to make it up now that you're getting some heat for your actions. Yes you did complain that you wanted more action and I did bet about 10k in the last 30 days all though I don't know what the exact figure is since your software doesn't go back that far. You've shown that you just abritrarily change deals after they've been made. Probably had something to do with the fact that I was a winning player.
Sportbet involved in another dispute, it can't be!:think2:
People another reason to stay away from this $hit, joke of a sportsbook if you can even call then that. Read the history on Sportbet and you'll see their history of BS. I must admit this one puts the icing on the cake. Good job Jake
People another reason to stay away from this $hit, joke of a sportsbook if you can even call then that. Read the history on Sportbet and you'll see their history of BS. I must admit this one puts the icing on the cake. Good job Jake
I happen to know both gentlemen, Jake and Pokerking, personally.
Jake is a gentleman. He has assisted bailing out lots of players, including sharps, without problems.
Pokerking is a very sharp and capable player, albeit a known steam chaser. He is indeed a likeable human being but I personally wouldn't want him as a customer if I ran an operation......
Pokerking is not new to these accusations : the Panama boys openly accused him to chase steam and move. I trust you recall that being the case.
It is indeed an interesting case. I believe Jake called the player several times, as the player acknowledged. Jake's decision is therefore legitimate, as the player had been repeatedly warned.
My guess is that pokerking's playing pattern could not fit the generous offer Jake made.
Better both parties archive this situation as a bad experience and move on.
Jake is a gentleman. He has assisted bailing out lots of players, including sharps, without problems.
Pokerking is a very sharp and capable player, albeit a known steam chaser. He is indeed a likeable human being but I personally wouldn't want him as a customer if I ran an operation......
Pokerking is not new to these accusations : the Panama boys openly accused him to chase steam and move. I trust you recall that being the case.
It is indeed an interesting case. I believe Jake called the player several times, as the player acknowledged. Jake's decision is therefore legitimate, as the player had been repeatedly warned.
My guess is that pokerking's playing pattern could not fit the generous offer Jake made.
Better both parties archive this situation as a bad experience and move on.
SPORTBET is not a current advertiser, so maybe I can give an opinion without anyone thinking I am biassed...
First off, it is a VERY NICE gesture for any sports book to offer a gambler a bailout plan and SportBet is to be commended for offering this to the gambler...
Secondly, since the gambler is obviously not a recreational player, then the RULES in this industry often change. Trust me, I know this firsthand...
No matter what you do Jake, you are going to be in a NO WIN situation for some on this thread. However, I think it is noble and responsible of you to come in here and stand up for what you believe to be RIGHT...
I wish that the two parties could work this out OFF the forum as there is a much better chance of a compromise...
While I don't know this poster, I have met JAKE and consider him to be HONORABLE and TRUSTWORTHY...
Best of Luck,
THE SHRINK
First off, it is a VERY NICE gesture for any sports book to offer a gambler a bailout plan and SportBet is to be commended for offering this to the gambler...
Secondly, since the gambler is obviously not a recreational player, then the RULES in this industry often change. Trust me, I know this firsthand...
No matter what you do Jake, you are going to be in a NO WIN situation for some on this thread. However, I think it is noble and responsible of you to come in here and stand up for what you believe to be RIGHT...
I wish that the two parties could work this out OFF the forum as there is a much better chance of a compromise...
While I don't know this poster, I have met JAKE and consider him to be HONORABLE and TRUSTWORTHY...
Best of Luck,
THE SHRINK
Bull in other words Pokerking doesnt know how much he bets or where he bet it, so he blames it on software. Who doesnt keep records of how much they bet and where they bet it. This guy is lying through his teeth and using this forum and probably others to blackmail a book. In the meantime how soon do you think Jake or any other book will offer a legitmate player in need of a bailout any help? I could care less if players like this get bailed out only to abuse the very book that offered the bailout. Forum blackmail at its finest. I bet a lot but dont know how much who are you kidding.
Shrink how would you feel if a book made an agreement with you initially, then reneged after they saw it wouldn't benefit them or better yet changed the rules in the middle of the agreement? Didn't SBG Global pull a similiar type scam with you even though it didn't involve a roll over but rather a postup (remember he had to post up to get the bonus)? Why does a book discover someone is a particular type of player after they are getting their brains beat in and want to come up with some pu$$y a$$ excuse to rip them off and attempt to save face?
if jake bailed me out and then told me we need to make wagering adjustments regarding our original deal or i would LOSE MY BONUS, i would make wagering adjustments. not to say i would be happy about it but you do what you have to do guys. life is not fair. adapt and get it done. communication is the key weather you like what you are hearing or not.
