Some Reasons to believe a book is in financial trouble

[TheGeneral+]

1. Player is owed and not paid. Multiple requests denied.

2. Player asks for my assistance.

3. I call UW and ask for assistance.

4. I am told they are in London. London laws prevent me from helping.

5. I am told they cannot discuss the account with me.

6. I am told they cannot do a 3way call with me and the client.

7. The player is told to stop asking for my help or he will have his account closed.

There's 7 leans that indicate UnitedWager may be in financial trouble.

Good luck

[This message was edited by The General on March 01, 2004 at 07:35 PM.]

 

[JudgeWapner]

Even if the aren't doesn't sound like the kind of place where I would want to play.

 

[HerzvanRentle]

I was surprised you said London, but their servers are indeed in the UK and their phone STD code equates to one of the London burbs of Mill Hill, Edgware, Golders Green or Elstree.

Frankly, I'd be wondering if they actually own a bookmakers permit, cause if they don't, Her Majesty's Customs & Excise would be interested in them.

 

[TheGeneral+]

I can't think of any reason why a 3 party call is not allowed.

 

[miamiman]

looks like they are related with inetsoftware.com in costa rica, unitedwagers address is the same as inetsofteares office in london, i guess inetsoftware have not paid any taxes either.

ask them are they paying taxes LOL, they will pay you quickly . they have not got a license in the united kingdom

 

[JohnnyDeMarco]

Miamiman,
If they dont have a license then why did the British gov contact me about an American that works there?
They do have a license there and thats one of the reasons they moved the servers from Costa Rica to London because the gov forced them to.

General,
Who do they owe? If you email me at John@johnedens.com I'll get to the bottom of it for you. I can do that for you either here in the forum or privately.

John

 

[TheGeneral+]

JohnnyDeMarco,

Mail sent. Thank you.

 

[biggun]

If by this Tuesday i still couldn't not get a confirmation of my payout, i will post my issue in every forums. I will also loan a complain to "IFCC", "Neteller" and local force enforcemant. I mean what i said.

 

[biggun]

General,

I think you are right, they are trying to buy time. But i can assure you that, if they refuse to pay me, i will go all the way.

 

[biggun]

This is the email from neteller...

I have received your question regarding your account with United Wager
and an inquiry has been made to the merchant.

Kindly forward any screen shots or account information/details that you have
with respect to your complaint to assist our inquiry.

While we do investigate such complaints to determine if there is anything we
can do to assist you, please note we do not arbitrate or provide any kind of
collection service for our clients as part of our service. NETeller can only
assist
on the amount you deposited to a merchant, not on
your claimed winnings.

In order to coincide with our privacy policies, we are unable to provide you
with any
merchant information which is not posted publicly on their website.


Regards,

 

[biggun]

Hi guys,

If you know the physical address of unitedwager, please send the info to raylim68@hotmail.com. Thank in advance.

 

[biggun]

if i can't get my money from unitedwager, i'm in deep shit. I can't even pay my home bills right now. The reasonn i post now, because i don't want to see others players stuck in the position like....myself. I'm prepared for them to conficate my entire balance for the reason.....I POST.

 

[biggun]

Laurence(unitedwager), If you refuse to process my pending(in neteller) payout, i don't see any chance i will get any penny from you in the future. Pay me, or take my money and run now.

 

[biggun]

Mar 1 14:07 United Wager - $1,400.00 USD
Mar 1 14:06 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD
Mar 1 14:06 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD
Mar 1 14:06 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD
Feb 29 13:10 United Wager - $1,400.00 USD Declined
Feb 29 13:09 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 29 13:09 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 29 13:09 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 28 11:14 United Wager - $400.00 USD Declined
Feb 28 11:13 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 28 11:12 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 28 11:12 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 27 22:45 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 27 22:45 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 27 22:45 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 27 22:45 United Wager - $1,400.00 USD Declined
Feb 27 00:28 United Wager - $1,400.00 USD Declined
Feb 27 00:27 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 27 00:27 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 27 00:27 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 26 13:59 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 26 13:59 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 26 13:59 United Wager - $1,400.00 USD Declined
Feb 26 13:58 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 25 12:15 United Wager - $1,400.00 USD Declined
Feb 25 12:14 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 25 12:14 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 25 12:14 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 24 23:46 United Wager - $1,400.00 USD Declined
Feb 24 23:45 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 24 23:45 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 24 23:45 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 23 23:32 United Wager - $1,400.00 USD Declined
Feb 23 23:29 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 23 23:29 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 23 23:28 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 22 23:58 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 22 23:58 United Wager - $2,000.00 USD Declined
Feb 22 23:57 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 22 23:57 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 21 22:00 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 21 22:00 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 21 22:00 United Wager - $1,600.00 USD Declined
Feb 21 21:59 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 20 21:09 United Wager - $1,600.00 USD Declined
Feb 20 21:08 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 20 21:08 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 20 21:08 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 20 00:00 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 20 00:00 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 20 00:00 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 20 00:00 United Wager - $1,460.00 USD Declined
Feb 19 02:12 United Wager - $1,460.00 USD Declined
Feb 19 02:11 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 19 02:11 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 19 02:11 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 17 18:28 United Wager - $1,460.00 USD Declined
Feb 17 18:27 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 17 18:26 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 17 18:26 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 16 03:22 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 16 03:22 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined
Feb 11 00:26 United Wager - $2,500.00 USD Declined

 

[TheGeneral+]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The player is told to stop asking for my help or he will have his account closed.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Be careful, they will pull this rule on you.

 

[biggun]

They already suspend my account, that mean i could not login my acct at the moment.

 

[biggun]

Just finish live chat with neteller. They told me ,if unitedwager give me a hard time on my pending payout, please contact pr@neteller.comI WILL...NOTTING TO LOSE AT THE MOMENT

 

[DickyW]

I may be wrong and if i am I appologize. But is'nt this BSKILLER a bonus whoring scam
Thanks in advance

 

[TheGeneral+]

BSKILLER does have a past Dicky, but the book has not shown nor acknowledged any wrongdoings by him. They called him and asked him to come back. They admitted he was owed and said he would be paid by the 3rd of March after weeks of trying to get paid and many false excuses.

Without their cooperation, i only have one side of the story.

 

[spidermonkey]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DickyW:
I may be wrong and if i am I appologize. But is'nt this BSKILLER a bonus whoring scam
Thanks in advance<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

no, you are confused, it's his brother er, wait his uncle, i mean his moms cousin on his dads side thats the bonus whore.