some guy was right on here, forget who said it about colorado determining who wins

[gtc08]

carry the kerry states which i expect 252. pick up iowa which is solid 259. new mexico looks very safe blue 264.

current publican 04 states that are tossups now are nevada, colorado, indiana, ohio, florida virginia.

give mccain florida, indiana, and ohio, nevada, virginia he's at 265. colorado will give either mccain or obama the win.

now either this will happen or these tossup states like virginia, florida, ohio go blue and obama just crushes mccain. i have no clue on ohio. i think virginia is possible. i dont think florida is possible, but some repub on here from florida is saying obama will win and the polls are even. id just be surprised if he won florida. nevada i have no idea.

here's your last 5 colorado polls though:
sept 23: <table style="width: 600px;" class="table-races" id="table-1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="600"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Colorado</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">PPP (D)</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Obama 51, McCain 44</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Obama +7</td></tr></tbody></table>sept 23:
<table style="width: 600px;" class="table-races" id="table-1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="600"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Colorado</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Quinnipiac/WSJ/WP</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Obama 49, McCain 45</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Obama +4</td></tr></tbody></table>sept 18:
<table style="width: 600px;" class="table-races" id="table-1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="600"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Colorado</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">InAdv/PollPosition</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Obama 51, McCain 41</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Obama +10</td></tr></tbody></table>sept 18:
<table style="width: 600px;" class="table-races" id="table-1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="600"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Colorado</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">National Journal/FD</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Obama 45, McCain 44</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Obama +1</td></tr></tbody></table>sept 16:
<table style="width: 600px;" class="table-races" id="table-1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="600"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Colorado</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">FOX News/Rasmussen</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Obama 46, McCain 48</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">McCain +2</td></tr></tbody></table>

 

[Sekrah]

Obama just lost Pennsylvania today. Expect next wave of polls to show McCain up 3-5% here.

 

[gtc08]

pa win percent: obama 81 mccain 19 projection 51.2 46.4

dont see what your getting at regaridng losing pa today.

 

[Sekrah]

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=616859

It's over. If you don't think this carries weight around here, you're don't have the foggiest clue.

 

[tocco05]

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=616859

It's over. If you don't think this carries weight around here, you're don't have the foggiest clue.

He doesn't have a clue Sekrah. You shouldn't even have to ask that question.

 

[Romanowski]

Steelers:lol:

 

[gtc08]

thats a non factor. if abortionists can vote for mccain then clean coal people can vote for obama. it's not a direct statement, more of a caught in the moment response and has not been reported.

if it came from obama and the media picked up on it, then i might agree with you. like with this whole rape kit and palin thing thats blowing all over the place. you blow it up, let's play. the way it is now though your state is one of the safer blue states and will probably stay that way.

michigan was the one i thought could've changed because of the corrupt mayor, but mccain looks like he's given up there and polls show obama pulling ahead by a good amount

 

[Sekrah]

thats a non factor. if abortionists can vote for mccain then clean coal people can vote for obama. it's not a direct statement, more of a caught in the moment response and has not been reported.

Three LOL's here..

Non Factor.. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Caught in the moment = CANDID AND HONEST! This is how he feels! He railed against Obama and his clean coal programs in the primary! As you guys like to say about Palin.. This man is only a heartbeat from the Presidency!! HAHAHA

HAS NOT BEEN REPORTED?!?!?!? HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER THE OBAMA BUS ALL DAY?!


http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/McCain_seizes_on_Biden_coal_gaffe.html?showall

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/23/clean-coal-is-biden-for-it-or-against-it/

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Biden_No_coal_plants_here_in_America.html?showall

www.drudgereport.com

LOL

 

[gtc08]

just look at your state electoral map and tell me where mccain can win it. hell if youj want we can even do a pa bet for the fun of it.

 

[D2bets]

I'll bet you straight up that Obama wins PA. Name your amount.

 

[Risk44]

Hey it got quiet all of a sudden.. They were right about 1 thing though.. Its Over... for Mccain that is.

 

[steaktartar]

I'll bet you straight up that Obama wins PA. Name your amount.

ill take any excess you dont want ..i doubt you get any takers.......probably a few more copy/pastes but no gambles

 

[Sekrah]

I'll bet you straight up that Obama wins PA. Name your amount.

Already made my intrade bets.. I'm primed up.

 

[3peet]

I"ll give +$100 to the 1st person that thinks McCain takes Pennsylvnia.

h_long_61@yahoo.com.

Make sure u mention on this board u sent an email.

I guarantee Pennsylvania goes Blue.

 

[BetIt]

PA going red is a reach.

The state is just about general election proof.

Sekrah: Are we on for that O/U 1.5 on those two PA House Races?

 

[TTinCO]

Obama wins Colorado

 

[JDeuce]

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news.../racism-could-hurt-obama-in-pennsylvania.html


Big Mac taking Pennsylvania or Michigan would be a crushing blow to Obama's campaign, although I think there are still too many fucking retards in both states who will vote for him even though he's publicly displayed his elitist and condescending attitude towards them. I wouldn't bet on McCain winning either without getting at least +200.

Anyway, just remember which candidate continuously brings up race as an issue when you read this. Sekrah...your thoughts? Have you heard anything like this?


Racism Could Hurt Obama in Pennsylvania

Voters in Media, Pa., say racism is a frequent topic of conversation

By Liz Halloran
Posted September 23, 2008
MEDIA, Pa.—On a cigarette break outside the Seven Stones coffee house yesterday, Ashleigh Piazza, 23, did not hesitate when asked how Democratic nominee Barack Obama's race could affect his success here in southeastern Pennsylvania.
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"It's kind of sad to say, but I think it's a major issue," said Piazza, a file clerk at the nearby Delaware County Courthouse, where in a few hours GOP nominee John McCain and his running mate, Sarah Palin, would hold a rally. "There's lots of talk about his race around town," says Piazza. An Obama supporter even offered Piazza's mom $40 at a local bar the other night, she says, just to listen to him make a case for the Illinois senator.
Her coworker Jackie Zane, 23, said simply: "There is a lot going on around the race issue. Some say it just doesn't look right."
The young women, both raised Catholic, didn't know it, but as they were talking about the prospects of Obama's effort to become the first black president, a new poll was released suggesting that their hyperlocal analysis was reflected nationwide. Obama's multiracial background—his mother is white and father is black—could lose him up to 6 percentage points in what is expected to be a close fall contest against McCain, according to an AP-Yahoo survey conducted between August 27 and September 5. The survey was the first one of its kind that attempted to get at a subject that both the media and voters themselves have found difficult to talk about: how racism could affect the November outcome.
Ever since Obama entered the presidential contest—and particularly after he emerged as a legitimate contender after winning the Iowa caucuses in January—speculation about the affect his skin color might have on his path to the White House has been largely whispered. But as Election Day nears, conversations about race have become more public and more common, says Ed Hardison, 78, a Democratic activist from nearby Middletown Township.
"The biggest problem we have is the racism," said Hardison, who had planted himself on a West State Street bench to watch GOP loyalists and the curious stream by to the McCain-Palin event. "As the race issue comes up to the top—it's there now—maybe policy positions on healthcare, the economy, debate about help with foreclosures will play a more important role."
Hardisan says he also believes that pushbacks against racism, like a letter to the editor by a Philadelphia priest that appeared yesterday morning in the Philadelphia Inquirer, may help. In the letter, headlined "Racism is a sin," the Rev. Stephen Thorne, an African-American who heads the Archdiocese of Philadelphia's Office for Black Catholics, reminded readers that "the bishops have made it clear they will not tolerate bigotry."
Thorne's missive came in response to an earlier letter writer who called on Catholic bishops to take a more active role in denouncing racism as against church teachings with the zeal with which they denounce abortion, for example.
"As someone who has witnessed racism firsthand," wrote Thorne, "I believe the church has had a consistent voice condemning this sin."
Hardisan predicted that the bad economic news will move a number of people who now say they won't vote for a black person into Obama's column by Election Day—even though many "will be forced to make a decision they didn't want to make." Hardisan spends part of the year in Florida and has heard his fellow retirees suggest that George Washington would "roll over in his grave" if a black man became president, but go on to say they'll vote for Obama because they oppose the war.
The discomfort, the high-stakes prospect of historic change, is clearly affecting Piazza, too, who says she plans to vote for McCain, even though she is drawn to what she called "Obama's vision."
"They all promise you this, this, and this," she says, squirming a bit. "I get nervous thinking about deciding who to vote for."

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