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Socialism on the Rise: Wake Up America before it’s too late

May 18, 2009 by deansantoro
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Are the days of traditional American values gone for good? Do modern times demand a new, modernized version of morality? Has moderation been replaced by a new mantra of seeking the ultimate excess?
God, I hope not.
Who among us remembers when faith in a higher power, possessing a diligent work ethic and taking responsibility to provide for one’s family was what Americans strived for? These are the ethics of our national heritage which civilized our population and instilled character and maturity. People learned how to behave, to have manners, good morals, to be honest, unselfish, generous and considerate of others. They were taught the benefits of discipline, hard work, and responsibility. They were witness to good role models of how to be loving and kind to their spouse, encouraging and supportive to their children. This was the sort of thing that caused marriages to last, families to succeed, and made our nation strong and free.<SUP>1</SUP>
Our morality, our heritage and our traditional values have been under an orchestrated attack from the advocates of socialism for many decades. But the rate of aggression has increased dramatically and the pressure gauge is now in the red zone. We are at Def Con 1.

For the better part of the past 100 years, elitists have advanced their agendas by expertly utilizing various forms of media to position their humanist programs and entitlements as good for society - convincing the masses it’s the compassionate thing to do. They preach government is the savior: Establish a government program, fund it in perpetuity and viola! Problem solved. Gone are the days where neighbor helped neighbor and kindness was considered a desirable virtue. Today it’s every man for himself. Stories of America Past where the haves willingly helped the have not’s through charitable acts have now given way to mandatory government programs where the claim is to help the less fortunate, but upon further inspection we see the lion’s share of the tax dollars that fund these programs goes to pay over-inflated salaries and high-cost benefits to the politically connected.

There are volumes of text that demonstrate government involvement in anything creates a bureaucratic and fiscal nightmare – that’s a given. Fact is that Socialism is in direct conflict with the American values but the spin has many convinced otherwise. You are not ‘politically correct’ if you opposed a socialist program. I submit it’s long overdue to end the discussion of what is and what is not politically correct and replace it with what is and what is not the role of government in our society. Richard Weaver said, “Ideas have consequences and how each of us is intellectually trained has a direct impact on how we act and react, often with predictable consequences”. I believe the consequences he was referring to can be easily detailed in the projects of the expansive move toward socialism. Like a computer system where garbage in means garbage out, our educational system is major component of the problem. Liberal professors promoting collectivism as the solution to our nation’s ills… Thank goodness for the Federalist Society, Mises Institute and the Internet.

The Elitists among us believe they are intellectually and morally superior to you. It’s not hard to spot an elitist – they are the ones preaching compassion through government mandate. Anyone who opposes their ideas will be discredited through character assassinations and personal attacks. They’ll use their media outlets to label you “conspiracy theorist”, “kook” and “whacko”. Do I believe there are secretive and nefarious world plots? I believe anyone in power will do anything to hold on to that power. That’s not conspiracy theory, that’s human nature. Socialism has surpassed capitalism as the path to retain superiority and control. With capitalism there is competition. With socialism there is no competition. “Follow the money” as the saying goes.

Many believe big corporations are evil. That is the propaganda crusade in full effect. Misinformation, Disinformation… confusion among the masses is quite desirable for the governing class. The misinformation campaign has many convinced the liberal is the “little guy” and often the “good guy”, Davey fighting Goliath. Hard as it may be to swallow, that perception is another falsehood. It’s propaganda generated by the real enemies of a free society – the politicians, wealthy big business and the banking industry. Is it so hard to fathom the very entities you believe treasure capitalism would advocate (behind the scenes) for socialism? Remember it’s all about the retention of power and control.

And the execution of these plans are progressing quite marvelously I might say. Local governments are now subservient to state governments who are subservient to the Federal government. The strategy is almost complete at the federal level with liberal control over the executive branch and steps away from total control of the legislative branch. Next stop the judicial branch. Stay tuned for legislation from the bench. Federalist Society beware… you might be labeled as the next danger to America.

It stands to reason true capitalists would be hell bent on ensuring competition and free markets… but for the wealthy that’ve already made their money through capitalist means it is EXACTLY the opposite. They want to RETAIN their advantage. Look around you – the elitists are already in control of governments, the monetary supply and energy. Make the populace subservient to your power - and what better way than through economic means and the institution of Socialism? The Elitists stay in control with front men at the government helms at all levels municipal, state and federal. The progression has been slow but systematic. Elitists completed the takeover of the Democratic Party and have made great strides in taking control of the Republican Party. The media’s complicity is not due to a nefarious hidden agenda – these blokes actually believe they are doing to right thing because that’s how they’ve been intellectually trained, or better yet bamboozled. They were sold on the idea that Socialism is the solution and they blindly advocate for the cause. Good little soldiers eh? Lenin would be proud. For the media talking heads, independent thinking has been thrown out the window in favor of job security. Coupled with the liberal bent in our educational system, there are two strikes against reason before one turns of age to drink. And guess who controls the curriculum for education? Oh that’s right, government. Elitists thought of everything didn’t they?
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And why aren’t the masses resisting? Well the orchestrated financial chaos the Elitists have scripted with our economy plays a large part. In addition, Most Americans are so busy trying to survive they have no time to be politically active. The past two generations have been weaned in the “instant gratification” society. Pair that with a divide between the haves and have not’s wider than ever in the history of our country and you have the desired effect: American pitted against American, neighbor against neighbor in a race to see who can top the next. They’ve been convinced to do it all on credit and when the stuff hits the fan, of they want a guaranteed safety net!!! Knock, Knock, here comes the government to save the day with Socialism!! Traditional values have been replaced with greed and the insatiable desire for more.

So certainly the promises of Socialism now sound wonderful to the beleaguered middle class: healthcare for every American, job security for everyone, redistribution of wealth, punish the rich, give to the poor. But that’s the rub. Socialism is a class, caste system where the rich stay rich and the poor… well they stay right where they are. History proves Socialism has never worked. If you need a modern example, talk to anyone from Canada or the UK about socialized medicine. It’s competition that drives innovation. Why study hard and become the best in your field of choice when you are limited in your earning potential? The promises of socialism are empty with a pot of coal at the end of the rainbow. Entrepreneurship and innovation - the potential to gain wealth - has inspired many to take chances, try something new and make history. All of that innovation ceases to exist in a socialist society.
Not to mention the logical progression from socialism is to totalitarianism. We are going backward. The US has been creeping toward socialism since the early part of the 1900’s and now we have “hit the gas” with Obama and accelerated the progress. Obama was the front man who sold it, 52% of the voters bought it and now we’re saddled with it… Karl Marx is dancing a jig. Americans are basically now ASKING for socialism!!!! Who would thunk it?
Last summer I attended a public forum on the new Florida Marlins baseball stadium. A very prominent local politician gave his stump speech on why Miami-Dade County needed the ballpark. When the floor was opened up for questions, someone asked “Why will you not allow this matter to go to the voters in a referendum? We should have our say on how our tax dollars are spent!” The politician replied “I don’t believe in referendums. Our government is a representative democracy, a republic, and you elected me to represent you. So I will make the decision that is best for you.” How’s that for arrogance? And guess what? He got reelected and will keep getting reelected because no one has the time, resources or fortitude to fight him. It’s a perfect example of Elitism… politicians really believe they are your intellectual superiors because you voted for them. Since when did we become subjects to be ruled over by our ‘elected’ officials? I thought those days went out with the Declaration of Independence when we told ole King George to go pound sand.
The American Experiment that began in 1776 is in danger. We must protect our way of life and our way of governance. If we sit idly by and let the Elitist proponents of socialist policy prevail, we have thrown away the only free society that exists on this planet. More than 200 years ago, a group of brave individuals embarked upon a way of life that contradicted all contemporary knowledge: a society rules by laws instead of men. A place where the power of government is limited and the potential of individual is maximized. Where a pauper can become a king.
Are we prepared to let the American Way perish forever? I can only pray for the best while doing my part

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From each to his ability, to each his needs

How is that a bad thing?

America has been a socialist country for 250 years. The only question is which socialist programs? Just because a lot of people don't like the brown-skinned president does not mean our system of government is doomed
 

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All you had to post is this...
History proves Socialism has never worked.


Amen
end of story
thank you all and good night.



Now I need to eat a lot of aparagus so when I piss on the homeless bum's face it will stink as much as possible. You like that one Barman. Huh kid???? I think it's hillarious.

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From each to his ability, to each his needs

How is that a bad thing?

America has been a socialist country for 250 years.

Correct, which is why the sudden angst being expressed by those who were trounced in the Nov 2008 elections is bemusing at best
 

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52.7% is trounced?

Walter Mondale was trounced... He lost to a better man.

In 2008 when presented with the lesser evil, dumb americans came out of the woodworks to vote for the Manchurian candidate but many already realize their mistake.
 

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you dont get it c-gold. there saying you only bring this up because the left is in charge, while you were silent when your boy bush was doing the same thing.

its pointless trying to reason with a kid who plays both sides.
 

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Look son...

son...

boy, little boy, Bush was not the guy I pulled the lever for. I promise you that I didn't vote for him either time.

I was angry with his over spending and angry with his bail outs... but Obozo took it all to a whole new level. Even his own CBO predicts that the best Obama budget years will not even be as good as the worst Bush budget years.

Obama's a big spending dud plain and simple, and the biggest robber barron in human history. Congrats for voting for ignorance.
 

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History proves Socialism has never worked.

What is with your anit-American, left-wing whacko sentiment? Paved roads, public schools, strong military, clean air, clean water, personal responsibility, personal freedom and faith in one another are sort of things that made this country so strong

Instead you want to tax success, while rewarding excess and waste and at the same time eliminating all of those things above

It isn't 53%, it is 98% of the voters who voted for either Obama or McCain. And McCain supported socialist programs just as much as Obama
 

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now your pulling the nostradamus card again.

nobody knows whats going to happen, so saying you know what will happen in regards to obamas ppolicies working or not working is a waste of time, because it just turns into you playing the im right, your wrong, so too bad card, which is a waste of time.

remember, i was against the stimulus as well, but the country wanted it, regardless of what tea party 2009 presented by fox says.

this is why i label you a kid though and claim my dominance over you. i dont go gahhhh the world is over he's ruining us 2 days after the stimulus bill passes. i wait and see what happens over a period of time. i disagreed with obama on this, but i said lets see what happens, lets play, i hope your right and im wrong. i didnt go off like you saying oh my god he's an idiot because he didnt do what i wanted to do, like a kid would.

I, a man, wait to see if something works. I state my disagreement. I don't judge immediately. I wait until an appropriate amount of time has passed and then I make my decision if Obama is right or not.

You, a kid, are reactionary and have your mind made up from the get go. You do not allow anything to happen. You assume you know what will happen, and that your method of thinking is superior. That's a 14 year old kids mindset.

thats the difference between a man and a kid, me and you.
 

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now your pulling the nostradamus card again.

nobody knows whats going to happen, so saying you know what will happen in regards to obamas ppolicies working or not working is a waste of time, because it just turns into you playing the im right, your wrong, so too bad card, which is a waste of time.

remember, i was against the stimulus as well, but the country wanted it, regardless of what tea party 2009 presented by fox says.

this is why i label you a kid though and claim my dominance over you. i dont go gahhhh the world is over he's ruining us 2 days after the stimulus bill passes. i wait and see what happens over a period of time. i disagreed with obama on this, but i said lets see what happens, lets play, i hope your right and im wrong. i didnt go off like you saying oh my god he's an idiot because he didnt do what i wanted to do, like a kid would.

I, a man, wait to see if something works. I state my disagreement. I don't judge immediately. I wait until an appropriate amount of time has passed and then I make my decision if Obama is right or not.

You, a kid, are reactionary and have your mind made up from the get go. You do not allow anything to happen. You assume you know what will happen, and that your method of thinking is the only correct method. That's a 14 year old kids mindset.

thats the difference between a man and a kid.

Except for the fact that socialism NEVER works

Except for the fact his own people admit the defecit won't even be as good as the horrible bad year we had last year...

You not having any beliefs means that you are not a man, and you aren't even a human being. You waiting to play charlatan makes you about as inanimate as a door knob.

You can't predict the future? So then what the hell are you doing on a gambling forumn? Are you going to try and predict the past? Are you going to handicap baseball games that already hapepned?

:):)You'd probably suck at that too.(<)<
 

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Read some US History. Socialist programs have been around for many years like TomsGhostPut has stated.

I dont think you can do it, because you are a kid, you react, you don't wait, but I'd wait until time has passed to judge whether or not this particular stimulus works.

You better pray it works to because your ass is going to be paying for it if it don't work.
 
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Tom:

"From each to his ability, to each his needs

How is that a bad thing?

America has been a socialist country for 250 years."

Correct, which is why the sudden angst being expressed by those who were trounced in the Nov 2008 elections is bemusing at best

Huh?

Do I need to teach you guys economics 101? WTF?


Capitalism is an economic system in which wealth, and the means of producing wealth, are privately owned.<sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference">[1]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[2]</sup> Through capitalism, the land, labor, and capital are owned, operated, and traded for the purpose of generating profits, without force or fraud, by private individuals either singly or jointly,<sup id="cite_ref-Wood2002_2-0" class="reference">[3]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[4]</sup> and investments, distribution, income, production, pricing and supply of goods, commodities and services are determined by voluntary private decision in a market economy.<sup id="cite_ref-Bacher_4-0" class="reference">[5]</sup> A distinguishing feature of capitalism is that each person owns his or her own labor and therefore is allowed to sell the use of it to employers.<sup id="cite_ref-Wood2002_2-1" class="reference">[3]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-altvater1993_5-0" class="reference">[6]</sup> In a "capitalist state", private rights and property relations are protected by the rule of law of a limited regulatory framework.<sup id="cite_ref-lane2002_6-0" class="reference">[7]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-pejovich1990_7-0" class="reference">[8]</sup> In the modern capitalist state, legislative action is confined to defining and enforcing the basic rules of the market,<sup id="cite_ref-lane2002_6-1" class="reference">[7]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-pejovich1990_7-1" class="reference">[8]</sup> though the state may provide some public goods and infrastructure.<sup id="cite_ref-aaron2003_8-0" class="reference">[9]</sup>




Socialism in political thought refers to economic theories of social organization advocating collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and a society characterized by equality for all individuals, with an egalitarian method of compensation.<sup id="cite_ref-SocialismAVeryShortIntroduction_0-0" class="reference">[1]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[2]</sup> Modern socialism originated in the late 19th-century intellectual and working class political movement that criticized the effects of industrialization and private ownership on society. Karl Marx posited that socialism (the disappearance of class and therefore state) would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution after a transitional stage from capitalism called the dictatorship of the proletariat.<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference">[3]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[4]</sup>
 
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Read some US History. Socialist programs have been around for many years like TomsGhostPut has stated.

I dont think you can do it, because you are a kid, you react, you don't wait, but I'd wait until time has passed to judge whether or not this particular stimulus works.

You better pray it works to because your ass is going to be paying for it if it don't work.

Forum troll thinks that because we have government programs,
that means our economic system is socialist.

The amount of ignorance and stupidity posted in this here forum
makes me sad for the future of our once great country.

Go back and take high school economics ass-clown.
 

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Forum troll thinks that because we have government programs,
that means our economic system is socialist.

The amount of ignorance and stupidity posted in this here forum
makes me sad for the future of our once great country.

Go back and take high school economics ass-clown.

If thats true Zit why dont you try and reel in these idiots that have been primed by listening to their daytime radio shows and get on here and go nuts with the emoticons.
 

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FZ,

why not copy and paste this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffersonian_democracy

The free-market is almost always often the most efficient. And the free-market is strongest when everyone is given the opportunity to contribute. It is the economic version of checks and balances. We don't let a fire in one home burn down the neighborhood because the check to the fire department didn't clear

just because cgold says you socialism has never worked, does not mean it hasn't been working well in America for more than a couple centuries
 

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Zit's above us punter, which is why I find it odd he's in nearly every thread I post in. Even outside of the politics area. The guy loves me.

you know punter, the guys who hate on gays daily like zit are the ones who secretly are gay, that happens all the time, and that would explain his crush on me.

im not sayin, but im sayin...............
 
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FZ,

why not copy and paste this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffersonian_democracy

The free-market is almost always often the most efficient. And the free-market is strongest when everyone is given the opportunity to contribute. It is the economic version of checks and balances. We don't let a fire in one home burn down the neighborhood because the check to the fire department didn't clear

just because cgold says you socialism has never worked, does not mean it hasn't been working well in America for more than a couple centuries

Our economic system is not socialism by definition, but maybe if you
keep repeating it, it might magically become true?

I'm not sure what you are getting at - of course there are socialistic
aspects to our society - but as a whole there is absolutely no question
that our economic system is capitalistic.
 
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Zit's above us punter, which is why I find it odd he's in nearly every thread I post in. Even outside of the politics area. The guy loves me.

you know punter, the guys who hate on gays daily like zit are the ones who secretly are gay, that happens all the time, and that would explain his crush on me.

im not sayin, but im sayin...............

You got the part right about me being above you, as far as the
rest of your post, I think we all know the truth about that.

@)
 

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FZ,

why not copy and paste this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffersonian_democracy

The free-market is almost always often the most efficient. And the free-market is strongest when everyone is given the opportunity to contribute. It is the economic version of checks and balances. We don't let a fire in one home burn down the neighborhood because the check to the fire department didn't clear

just because cgold says you socialism has never worked, does not mean it hasn't been working well in America for more than a couple centuries

The history of thanksgiving clearly shows that socialism doesn't work, and that a free market system creates and abundance to be thankful for.

:toast:Welcome to America.
 

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G, I hope he C-Gold and willie have sexual Minerva together and Dave in Vegas gets to watch.
 

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