so what do you guys think. should healthcare be a right or a privilege?

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one of the big points i hit home with obama on. should be a right. i
 

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What about dental floss?

Should dental floss be a right too?

The thing is that once you say something is a right, people start to DEMAND shit ...
 

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is that in the Constitution?

you have a right to pursue happiness, you don't have a right to other peoples' property.
 

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cincy, i just think middle class hard working families who are uninsured should be able to get healthcare. some are against it, not sure why though.
 

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it has to be somewhere in between. not sure where or how but how it is right now is not working and what mccain would do with it would make it even worse.
 

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Should it be a right? no

Should alternative health care options be available for those who cant afford it in its current structure?

yes
 

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Privledge. The only right you have is to breathe everything else get off your ass and go earn it.
 

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back in the day when churches were really for the people and to serve the community and weren't institutionalized whore houses

churches were our wellfare system

and still today there are at least a few churches left doing good and providing food, healthcare, and such to the homeless and those in need

i know in my area as well doctors who care go to a local church to provide services and such

depend on the people not government...government and institutionalization just gets in the way of people having compassion for others in need....

and the more government takes from us to provide for others (a huge chuck of which is lost due to the government beuracrats)...the less we have to directly give to those in need at a local level in our community
 

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McCain says a responsibility
Obama says a right

I know we have had threads about this topic before, but calling health care a right just kind of freaks me out. Am I alone on this? Why does Obama saying it is a "right" just get glossed over? Is it accepted as truth now?

I feel that McCain's answer (even if he did not elaborate in the following way) is more accurate in that the government has a responsibility to facilitate an environment that allows for healthcare to be available in the most cost effective yet excellent in standard of care possible. And the federal government has to help in this much like we have an interstate system, national defense, etc. It is in our country's best interest to have a good healthcare infrastructure. But a right? As in human right? My gosh.

Healthcare is a human need, not a right, as I see it.

What is healthcare? Is it not the providing of a service of care towards the health of a person? Why is it that something that is provided by someone else, costs money, and services our basic needs, now considered a right? Liberty, breathing air, loving others, the pursuit of one's own happiness, your life....those are things that we have our own right to. But the need for healthcare?

What about the basic needs of food, shelter, or even transportation? Are we this close to saying that everyone has a right to a home, three meals a day, clothes, and a vehicle of some kind? Just like healthcare, these are basic human needs requiring service or material at a cost. So we have a right to the need for healthcare, but not these other things?

My point is these are all good things and needed at a basic human level. But to consider them to be rights is just plain wrong. These things cost money and/or are services/materials provided to others. They are not free of charge or free in source.

Maybe saying healthcare is a right speaks to the modern voter in this country, but to me is a scary statement, and just feeds the mentality that the government is there to be voted for to take care of us. Is this the Democratic platform, or one man's opinion? Like I said, the government has an obligation or responsibility to facilitate access to these needs (not rights), healthcare being one of them, for the betterment of our country as a whole. But when Obama answered healthcare is a "right" all I could do is shake my head. Anyone saying it makes me shake my head.

If I am missing something here please help me out.
 

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As I said in another post Healthcare could be affordable for everyone if:

I think the best way that America could Subsidize health care is a National Tax on Fast Food...

Obesity in the US is one of the largest Health Problems we are facing... Why not Tax Fast Food??? They tax Cigarettes, Alcohol.. It would be a fair tax too bc Poor people and Rich People alike eat it...

And I guarantee you no one will stop eating Fast food because of a 5 cent tax..
 

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back in the day when churches were really for the people and to serve the community and weren't institutionalized whore houses

churches were our wellfare system

and still today there are at least a few churches left doing good and providing food, healthcare, and such to the homeless and those in need

i know in my area as well doctors who care go to a local church to provide services and such

depend on the people not government...government and institutionalization just gets in the way of people having compassion for others in need....

and the more government takes from us to provide for others (a huge chuck of which is lost due to the government beuracrats)...the less we have to directly give to those in need at a local level in our community


well said
its amazing what real charities can do with money that the govt just pisses away
 

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let gravely ill elderly people die with dignity, that'll reduce costs tremendously.

for all you that espouse socialized medicine, this and long waits is what keeps costs down
 

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yeah people living too long is a big problem

i know it sounds bad but willie is right

our entitlement system created in the 30s after the rubble of the great depression needs major overhaul and revision to be able handle the fact that people living much longer now and are sucking more money to survive

at some point they gonna have to move back the age on when social security and medicare can be tapped

we just can't support all these baby boomers from 59 1/2 or whatever it is....to their longer life expectancy

just so many problems for america long term....this banking shit which is the focus right now is just one of them
 

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liberal arguments at their finest:103631605

So what do you suggest for an average family that makes 75k a year and accrues 300k in Medical Bills?

Bankruptcy? or just let the uninsured Kid die without treatment?
 

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