8.02
The pitcher shall not --
(a) (1) Bring his pitching hand in contact with his mouth or lips while in the 18 foot circle surrounding the pitching rubber. EXCEPTION: Provided it is agreed to by both managers, the umpire prior to the start of a game played in cold weather, may permit the pitcher to blow on his hand. PENALTY: For violation of this part of this rule the umpires shall immediately call a ball. However, if the pitch is made and a batter reaches first base on a hit, an error, a hit batsman or otherwise, and no other runner is put out before advancing at least one base, the play shall proceed without reference to the violation. Repeated offenders shall be subject to a fine by the league president.
(2) expectorate on the ball, either hand or his glove;
(3) rub the ball on his glove, person or clothing;
(4) apply a foreign substance of any kind to the ball;
(5) deface the ball in any manner; or
(6) deliver a ball defaced in a manner prescribed by Rule 8.02(a)(2) through (5) or what is called the “shine” ball, “spit” ball, “mud” ball or “emery” ball. The pitcher is allowed to rub the ball between his bare hands.
PENALTY: For violation of any part of Rules 8.02(a)(2) through (6):
(a) The pitcher shall be ejected immediately from the game and shall be suspended automatically for 10 games.
(b) If a play follows the violation called by the umpire, the manager of the offense may advise the plate umpire that he elects to accept the play. Such election shall be made immediately at the end of the play. However, if the batter reaches first base on a hit, an error, a base on balls, a hit batsman, or otherwise, and no other runner is put out before advancing at least one base, the play shall proceed without reference to the violation.
(c) Even though the offense elects to take the play, the violation shall be recognized and the penalties in subsection (a) will still be in effect.
(d) The umpire shall be sole judge on whether any portion of this rule has been violated.
Rules 8.02(a)(2) through 8.02(a)(6) Comment: If a pitcher violates either Rule 8.02(a)(2) or Rule 8.02(a)(3) and, in the judgment of the umpire, the pitcher did not intend, by his act, to alter the characteristics of a pitched ball, then the umpire may, in his discretion, warn the pitcher in lieu of applying the penalty set forth for violations of Rules 8.02(a)(2) through 8.02(a)(6). If the pitcher persists in violating either of those Rules, however, the umpire should then apply the penalty.
Rule 8.02(a) Comment: If at any time the ball hits the rosin bag it is in play. In the case of rain or wet field, the umpire may instruct the pitcher to carry the rosin bag in his hip pocket. A pitcher may use the rosin bag for the purpose of applying rosin to his bare hand or hands. Neither the pitcher nor any other player shall dust the ball with the rosin bag; neither shall the pitcher nor any other player be permitted to apply rosin from the bag to his glove or dust any part of his uniform with the rosin bag.
(b) Have on his person, or in his possession, any foreign substance. For such infraction of this section (b) the penalty shall be immediate ejection from the game. In addition, the pitcher shall be suspended automatically for 10 games.
(c) Intentionally delay the game by throwing the ball to players other then the catcher, when the batter is in position, except in an attempt to retire a runner.
PENALTY: If, after warning by the umpire, such delaying action is repeated, the pitcher shall be removed from the game.
(d) Intentionally Pitch at the Batter.
If, in the umpire’s judgment, such a violation occurs, the umpire may elect either to:
1. Expel the pitcher, or the manager and the pitcher, from the game, or
2. may warn the pitcher and the manager of both teams that another such pitch will result in the immediate expulsion of that pitcher (or a replacement) and the manager.
If, in the umpire’s judgment, circumstances warrant, both teams may be officially “warned” prior to the game or at any time during the game.
(League Presidents may take additional action under authority provided in Rule 9.05.)
Rule 8.02(d) Comment: To pitch at a batter’s head is unsportsmanlike and highly dangerous. It should be—and is—condemned by everybody. Umpires should act without hesitation in enforcement of this rule.
The pitcher shall not --
(a) (1) Bring his pitching hand in contact with his mouth or lips while in the 18 foot circle surrounding the pitching rubber. EXCEPTION: Provided it is agreed to by both managers, the umpire prior to the start of a game played in cold weather, may permit the pitcher to blow on his hand. PENALTY: For violation of this part of this rule the umpires shall immediately call a ball. However, if the pitch is made and a batter reaches first base on a hit, an error, a hit batsman or otherwise, and no other runner is put out before advancing at least one base, the play shall proceed without reference to the violation. Repeated offenders shall be subject to a fine by the league president.
(2) expectorate on the ball, either hand or his glove;
(3) rub the ball on his glove, person or clothing;
(4) apply a foreign substance of any kind to the ball;
(5) deface the ball in any manner; or
(6) deliver a ball defaced in a manner prescribed by Rule 8.02(a)(2) through (5) or what is called the “shine” ball, “spit” ball, “mud” ball or “emery” ball. The pitcher is allowed to rub the ball between his bare hands.
PENALTY: For violation of any part of Rules 8.02(a)(2) through (6):
(a) The pitcher shall be ejected immediately from the game and shall be suspended automatically for 10 games.
(b) If a play follows the violation called by the umpire, the manager of the offense may advise the plate umpire that he elects to accept the play. Such election shall be made immediately at the end of the play. However, if the batter reaches first base on a hit, an error, a base on balls, a hit batsman, or otherwise, and no other runner is put out before advancing at least one base, the play shall proceed without reference to the violation.
(c) Even though the offense elects to take the play, the violation shall be recognized and the penalties in subsection (a) will still be in effect.
(d) The umpire shall be sole judge on whether any portion of this rule has been violated.
Rules 8.02(a)(2) through 8.02(a)(6) Comment: If a pitcher violates either Rule 8.02(a)(2) or Rule 8.02(a)(3) and, in the judgment of the umpire, the pitcher did not intend, by his act, to alter the characteristics of a pitched ball, then the umpire may, in his discretion, warn the pitcher in lieu of applying the penalty set forth for violations of Rules 8.02(a)(2) through 8.02(a)(6). If the pitcher persists in violating either of those Rules, however, the umpire should then apply the penalty.
Rule 8.02(a) Comment: If at any time the ball hits the rosin bag it is in play. In the case of rain or wet field, the umpire may instruct the pitcher to carry the rosin bag in his hip pocket. A pitcher may use the rosin bag for the purpose of applying rosin to his bare hand or hands. Neither the pitcher nor any other player shall dust the ball with the rosin bag; neither shall the pitcher nor any other player be permitted to apply rosin from the bag to his glove or dust any part of his uniform with the rosin bag.
(b) Have on his person, or in his possession, any foreign substance. For such infraction of this section (b) the penalty shall be immediate ejection from the game. In addition, the pitcher shall be suspended automatically for 10 games.
(c) Intentionally delay the game by throwing the ball to players other then the catcher, when the batter is in position, except in an attempt to retire a runner.
PENALTY: If, after warning by the umpire, such delaying action is repeated, the pitcher shall be removed from the game.
(d) Intentionally Pitch at the Batter.
If, in the umpire’s judgment, such a violation occurs, the umpire may elect either to:
1. Expel the pitcher, or the manager and the pitcher, from the game, or
2. may warn the pitcher and the manager of both teams that another such pitch will result in the immediate expulsion of that pitcher (or a replacement) and the manager.
If, in the umpire’s judgment, circumstances warrant, both teams may be officially “warned” prior to the game or at any time during the game.
(League Presidents may take additional action under authority provided in Rule 9.05.)
Rule 8.02(d) Comment: To pitch at a batter’s head is unsportsmanlike and highly dangerous. It should be—and is—condemned by everybody. Umpires should act without hesitation in enforcement of this rule.
slotech,
I agree 100%. Rogers did cheat regardless if it helped him or not based on having it in clear view for all to see. Plain and simple. Others are going to disagree but it is undisputable imo. Still did not affect outcome of game imo also as Tigers deserved to win. Cards could not hit in Game 2!
I agree 100%. Rogers did cheat regardless if it helped him or not based on having it in clear view for all to see. Plain and simple. Others are going to disagree but it is undisputable imo. Still did not affect outcome of game imo also as Tigers deserved to win. Cards could not hit in Game 2!
Baseball not as bad as Horse Racing
At least it is not run by felons like the horse racing industry...I mean every fkn vet is on the payroll..jocks will pull ANY horse ANYTIME for a fee$$$......ALL doped up nags driven and ridden by felons who will do ANYTHING to CASH A BET....ANYTHING.....
At least it is not run by felons like the horse racing industry...I mean every fkn vet is on the payroll..jocks will pull ANY horse ANYTIME for a fee$$$......ALL doped up nags driven and ridden by felons who will do ANYTHING to CASH A BET....ANYTHING.....
of course it affected the game! Imagine if he comes out with no tar, gives up a few hits, gets knocked around in the first inning. Think his confidence will be as high as it was the rest of the game? Pitching is 95% mental.
I'm not saying the Cards deserved to win, but Kenny deserved to be kicked out of that game.
I'm not saying the Cards deserved to win, but Kenny deserved to be kicked out of that game.
Jman,
The reason I don't think it affected game is Tigers scored 3 runs. Cards managed 4 hits. Cards swung poorly all night long with only 2 good swings I saw was Pujols and Molina. They were both warning track line drives that were caught. I think that it affected game but feel out of respect to game of baseball and the Tigers that did not cheat, not to blame Rogers for the only reason they won is that he was cheating. The other Tigers did not and they deserved the game. On to the rest of the series. Cards got what they wanted out of Detroit which was a split and right now that is fine with me as I don't think Tigers are going to win this series even with that one win.
The reason I don't think it affected game is Tigers scored 3 runs. Cards managed 4 hits. Cards swung poorly all night long with only 2 good swings I saw was Pujols and Molina. They were both warning track line drives that were caught. I think that it affected game but feel out of respect to game of baseball and the Tigers that did not cheat, not to blame Rogers for the only reason they won is that he was cheating. The other Tigers did not and they deserved the game. On to the rest of the series. Cards got what they wanted out of Detroit which was a split and right now that is fine with me as I don't think Tigers are going to win this series even with that one win.
Kojak said:
The penalties for Mr. Roger's rules violation include immediate game ejection along with a 10-GAME suspension!
If such penalties would have been enforced (as they should have), how can anyone say the absents of Mr. Rogers (the Tiger's ACE) from the 2nd inning of Gm-2 forward would NOT have had an effect upon the outcome of the game or series?
Don Melchor said:
Pre-pitch ritual would suggest that Roger's had the substance, he knew nothing about, not only on his hand, but certainly his cap and possibly elsewhere on his uniform, while he was forced to wash his hand of the substance, no one made him remove or wash ANY of his remaining clothing...clothing he was repeatedly touching with his "tainted" hand.
Here is a link of Rogers with substance on hand as well as a funny photo. For those that think it is dirt, will see otherwise.
http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=410606
http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=410606
Jason Stark article on Rogers and Larussa interview.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2006/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2636469
Very funny and enlightening.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2006/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2636469
Very funny and enlightening.
Slotech said:
I couldnt agree more. How can you cheat when youre playing a game that basicaly has no rules, or even worse, the governing body not having the spine to enforce them, or just not wanting to enforce them? Plus, you have the opposing manager who is allegedly trying to win a " World Series " ( or an American and one Canadian team competition ), not doing anything because he doesnt want to cause any trouble.
At least LaRussa has bought into the MLB's policy of " hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil ". Ignornace is bliss, just ask Bud Selig.
:nohead:
