It was a two lb bomb and did not hurt a single person. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending his actions, just saying calling them "terrorists" is a little misleading. Couple years in jail sure, but acting like they belong in GITMO and waterboarded is ridiculous.
The way you guys have talked about him for years I thought he killed 100s of people. They were little baby activists, lol. It's funny reading the facts of stuff after hearing about it for so long. You get the impression that something much crazier happened.
Larry Grathwohl, the FBI informant who infiltrated the terrorist group and later wrote the 1976 book “Bringing Down America,” said Ayers told him personally that fellow Weather Underground member Bernadine Dohrn, now his wife, set the bomb that killed San Francisco Park Police Sgt. Brian McDonnell in 1970.“Bill Ayers told me in Buffalo that we weren’t doing enough bombings and strategic sabotages,” Grathwohl told FoxNews.com. “He complained that it was a sad situation when [Dohrn] had to plan and place the bomb at the San Francisco Park Police station.”Grathwohl said the bomb used in San Francisco and the ones that killed three Weather Underground members when it exploded prematurely were all packed with roofing nails and fence staples and designed to kill as many people as possible.Ayers retired in 2010 from his post as a professor of education at the University of Illinois-Chicago. Prior to his career in academia, he was a fugitive for years for his role with the Weather Underground until surrendering in 1980. Charges against him were dropped because of government misconduct.
I read about it on my iPhone just an hour ago. I'm not defending him nor do I care who bill ayers really is. I was just surprised at the fact he didn't harm a single person and just let little bombs off to blow up public property. The way the right has talked about him made him seem like the American version of Osama Bin Laden.
This sums it up. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-sedaei/calling-bill-ayers-a-terr_b_133281.html
He was a creep, who went the wrong way, IMO in supporting a VERY just cause, opposition to the Vietnam War. I believe Violence OF ANY KIND is never the answer, and he resorted to violence. But NOT Terrorism, where the goal is to kill innocent people. Ayres specifically targeted Buildings, and warned then in advance, to avoid injuring people.
"In his book about his Weatherman experiences, Bill Ayers objected to describing the WUO (Weather Underground Organization) as "terrorist." Ayers wrote, "Terrorists terrorize, they kill innocent civilians, while we organized and agitated. Terrorists destroy randomly, while our actions bore, we hoped, the precise stamp of a cut diamond. Terrorists intimidate, while we aimed only to educate. No, we're not terrorists." It is true that even if Bill Ayers was in fact "aiming" to educate, what renders groups certain classifications is the consequences of their actions, not their aims. Nonetheless, Weathermen also specifically aimed to engage in activities that did not result in the hurting of any individuals. For instance, they specifically targeted government buildings at night to avoid killing citizens. In addition, the consequences of Weathermen's actions led to the destruction of a lot of property and no human life, ever.
"It was extremely poor judgment on Weathermen's part to resort to violence and odd and erroneous on Ayers' part to elevate violence and destruction of properties built with the tax money from many people who also opposed to Vietnam War to the level of education. It's an utter insult to all true educators, of whom he is currently one. Nonetheless, Weathermen were extreme vandals, not terrorists. Is vandalism of government property bad? Absolutely. Is it as bad as actions that most Americans consider to be terrorism: intentionally targeting and killing civilians to push any kind of a social agenda? Absolutely not."
I know none of this will convince you because you are rigid in your beliefs, but you asked, I answered (Again). Ayres was never convicted of terrorism, never went to trial as a terrorist, and any evidence that tried to paint him as such was illegally obtained and invalid.
If you're willing to go beyond the simplistic Palin "Pallin around with Terrorist" Nonsense, ones sees that Ayres was misguided in his use of violence, but was not a terrorist, unlike the scum who Dave Supports who sent Ricin to Obama and Bloomberg with the express hope of killing them. If you have any integrity about this Gassy, you'll join in on urging Dave to recant. I suspect you don't, so you won't, but I'm always hopeful of enlightenment.
He was a creep, who went the wrong way, IMO in supporting a VERY just cause, opposition to the Vietnam War. I believe Violence OF ANY KIND is never the answer, and he resorted to violence. But NOT Terrorism, where the goal is to kill innocent people. Ayres specifically targeted Buildings, and warned then in advance, to avoid injuring people.
"In his book about his Weatherman experiences, Bill Ayers objected to describing the WUO (Weather Underground Organization) as "terrorist." Ayers wrote, "Terrorists terrorize, they kill innocent civilians, while we organized and agitated. Terrorists destroy randomly, while our actions bore, we hoped, the precise stamp of a cut diamond. Terrorists intimidate, while we aimed only to educate. No, we're not terrorists." It is true that even if Bill Ayers was in fact "aiming" to educate, what renders groups certain classifications is the consequences of their actions, not their aims. Nonetheless, Weathermen also specifically aimed to engage in activities that did not result in the hurting of any individuals. For instance, they specifically targeted government buildings at night to avoid killing citizens. In addition, the consequences of Weathermen's actions led to the destruction of a lot of property and no human life, ever.
"It was extremely poor judgment on Weathermen's part to resort to violence and odd and erroneous on Ayers' part to elevate violence and destruction of properties built with the tax money from many people who also opposed to Vietnam War to the level of education. It's an utter insult to all true educators, of whom he is currently one. Nonetheless, Weathermen were extreme vandals, not terrorists. Is vandalism of government property bad? Absolutely. Is it as bad as actions that most Americans consider to be terrorism: intentionally targeting and killing civilians to push any kind of a social agenda? Absolutely not."
I know none of this will convince you because you are rigid in your beliefs, but you asked, I answered (Again). Ayres was never convicted of terrorism, never went to trial as a terrorist, and any evidence that tried to paint him as such was illegally obtained and invalid.
If you're willing to go beyond the simplistic Palin "Pallin around with Terrorist" Nonsense, ones sees that Ayres was misguided in his use of violence, but was not a terrorist, unlike the scum who Dave Supports who sent Ricin to Obama and Bloomberg with the express hope of killing them. If you have any integrity about this Gassy, you'll join in on urging Dave to recant. I suspect you don't, so you won't, but I'm always hopeful of enlightenment.
It's a sheep mentality Aki, and nothing proved it more than the Howard Stern stuff yesterday which Casper was suckered into posting. Suddenly, a Howard statement made 4 years ago, went up on All kinds of wingnut Blogs because some idiot heard a Best Of, and thought Howard swore off Democrats THAT DAY. It was really funny, but showed exactly how they function. Of course Casper hasn't mentioned it again, and will go on to spread his lies elsewhere.
