Shrink or Barry Clark please give us some info on the status of SBT.

[RDC]

Would somebdy please shed some light on all these slow pays over at SBT.

i hope that General is right andthis is not a financial problem over there and its just mismanagement with it being a new book. BUt dont leave us players hanging trying to guess what the problem is.

I certainly dont want to see another Gamblers Avenue situation again. But if it is please try to sell your book now before we lose all of our money.

Thank you.

 

[Jazz]

RDC: I don't think it's dire either but you're absolutely right, this needs to be addressed for the players' sake.

So, I'm reposting the questions here, if you don't mind, I've already asked these two in the other topic:

Shrink: reposting this here for you as you might miss it on page 1 of this topic - thanks ...

Jazz

posted November 07, 2003 08:05 AM

Dozer's right about that - either you payout what was asked when you've promised it, or you don't.

I have 2 fair questions: if SG is correct that "And Kenny's answer was .. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.. SBT IS SOLID AND I KNOW THEIR OWNER VERY WELL.." ...

(1) Shrink, do you still feel the same way? I'm not linking this to the fact they no longer advertise here.

(2) Shrink, if you know the owner well, you should be able to easily confirm the truth of what gamblingshark said about getting 50% of his request and getting slow, though apparently reliably, paid - can you do so and determine why this would be happening?

There's only one reason that springs to mind for me - it would be because they don't have enough money on hand at any given time to meet the payout requests and are relying on either incoming money or a profitable day to do so. Of course, I'm only theorizing here, not accusing anyone, but this is certainly not the first time I've seen comments like gamblingshark's concerning this book. If it's a few isolated cases, fine, but if this is common, then it certainly is not a good way to run a book at the minimum and I'll leave the maximum scenario for others here to fill in.


Mr. Clark, is it true that some people are not getting paid what they're asking for in the time-frame they were told they would be, and is it true that it happens regardless of whether they ask for a NETeller payment, Western Union, whatever? If this is the case, what is the reason for it and what steps are you taking now to eliminate this problem?

 

[TheGeneral+]

RDC,

In my discussion last week with SBT, I thought that they felt very fine about their finances. We discussed the sharp players from the RX and a slow pay which they did pay finally. They said it was a miscommunication between them and the player as he wanted payment one method and then changed his mind mid stream. They indicated they were fine with money, BUT I do not know and have no way of finding out if they are in financial trouble for sure. I just got that impression form the discussion. That was Robert. I read he is no longer there.

 

[Jazz]

General: thank you. However, based on other posters who have posted that they are getting slow-paid now and last week, and it's not due to any 'miscommunication' on their part, there is more here than is currently meeting the eye.

 

[TheGeneral+]

May very well be Jazz. Just sharing what I do know Sir.

 

[Halifax]

General:

Why are Shrink and McIrish forcing you to be a one-man-band ?

The word of the day today seems to be "mum".

 

[TheGeneral+]

Halifax, Not sure what you mean. No one has forced me to do anything buddy.

I am sharing what i know. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Jazz]

General, is Shrink 'in' today? Would it be an unreasonable request that you ask him to contact Barry and post what he finds out here? TIA

 

[TheGeneral+]

Not sure where SHRINK is Jazz or what he is doing. Lots of things on his plate. I have sent message asking to speak with Barry. If I do I will report what he has to tell me.

 

[lurkerforages]

Want to hear a funny story?

I know this guy who is a complete square who loses money like its water.
We met in a bar a few weeks ago and he told me the following story about SBT.
He started off playing there over baseball season.
He lost 10K pretty quickly and then went on a huge winning streak.
All he does is bet chalk in baseball, he never bets dogs.
Now they payed him but messed him around with part payments and checks sent to his home address.
He hated that because he didn`t want his wife to find out about his gambling.
In the end he left because they would not do book to book or pay winnings to his neteller account.
He is now losing big elsewhere.
SBT lost a dream customer because they phucked him around with payments.
Smart move Huh!

 

[Jazz]

General: thank you.

 

[TheGeneral+]

Jazz, I received no reply from SBT. I did however get a message from a player who said he was paid today.

 

[Jazz]

General, that's good to hear, though naturally the point was not that the entire customer base of SBT was getting treated in a slow-pay or half-pay manner, but that at least some people here and across the street are. Let's see what the Shrink finds out.

 

[Fishhead]

Thanks General

Strange we have not heard at all from Barry today.

 

[SportsBettingTrivia.com]

Gentlemen

Firstly, I would like to thank those posters who have faith in me and my company..

We process payouts everyday and try to meet the needs of our customers as best as possible..WE do not have any financial problems..

We do not wait for deposits to make payouts..Each payout we make is fully completed within one week..My customers know that to be true..

We process redemptions everyday..Whether money is promised WU..Fed ex..Or Neteller..The money arrives as promised..

My company had a problem with a employee which has been dealt with..I was at fault here, and take full responsibility..There were several things that this person did which effected the way things were done..I stand by my company and its future in this market..

I mentioned a bump in the road, and I am back on track..If anyone has a complaint or issue with anything I am doing here..Please call me and I will deal with it personally..

In the last year and a half I have existed in the offshore industry without a hitch..Everyday I try to bring good will and fair play to my business..I will continue to strive and make SBT a viable resource to the wagerer..

I speak the truth..

If anybody has a issue with what I have said..Please E mail me or call me personally..I will assist any customer...

My E mail is..

customerservice@sdsportsbetting.com

Trust and good will are both connected..Over time I hope to prove that I am worthy of both..

Barry Clark

SDS..SBT..