You've got a couple of ways to approach this if you want.
Buying a pick package probably isn't the best idea, because it won't be long until they try to upsell you on some bullshit GOY play that shockingly isn't included in your season-long fee. Inside information costs money...or some such horseshit. Plus, you'd probably be at the mercy of your salesman's picks. My guess is they don't all peddle the same plays...each salesman probably just picks teams out of a hat and offers those to his clients on a given day. What difference does it make for a boiler room operation? That's why I started to doubt whether some of the plays I saw posted were actually his. They may have come from the boiler room...just not him.
Or, option 2 is you could call in and demand to speak to the man himself. Tell whoever answers you're a 5-10 dime bettor and only want to get plays directly from Steve. Only work on a commission basis, tell him you'll settle up on commission each week/two weeks or whatever it is based on how much you're ahead. I seriously doubt you'd ever be in danger of having to pay him, unless he starts trying his Martingale chase bullshit...in which case you could always respond you have limits that don't go that high.
If you do this, be prepared to have your phone ring off the hook though with other a-holes calling you and trying to land your business. Would be highly entertaining to hear how it turns out though, and probably highly profitable to fade.
Buying a pick package probably isn't the best idea, because it won't be long until they try to upsell you on some bullshit GOY play that shockingly isn't included in your season-long fee. Inside information costs money...or some such horseshit. Plus, you'd probably be at the mercy of your salesman's picks. My guess is they don't all peddle the same plays...each salesman probably just picks teams out of a hat and offers those to his clients on a given day. What difference does it make for a boiler room operation? That's why I started to doubt whether some of the plays I saw posted were actually his. They may have come from the boiler room...just not him.
Or, option 2 is you could call in and demand to speak to the man himself. Tell whoever answers you're a 5-10 dime bettor and only want to get plays directly from Steve. Only work on a commission basis, tell him you'll settle up on commission each week/two weeks or whatever it is based on how much you're ahead. I seriously doubt you'd ever be in danger of having to pay him, unless he starts trying his Martingale chase bullshit...in which case you could always respond you have limits that don't go that high.
If you do this, be prepared to have your phone ring off the hook though with other a-holes calling you and trying to land your business. Would be highly entertaining to hear how it turns out though, and probably highly profitable to fade.
Unbelievable! CNBC has gone to the trouble to give us a complete blueprint as to why noone would ever pay a cent to a tout. Then..... people post this thread. All these questions of why to pay the dipshit and how much. Let's make this simple. NO PERSON WITH EVEN A HINT OF INTELLIGENCE would pay this turd anything for ANY reason.
Everyone else is just being polite. Most are saying the same thing I am saying.
The few others must be mad at their money.
Everyone else is just being polite. Most are saying the same thing I am saying.
The few others must be mad at their money.
Even to think the guy can consistently pick losers would be to assume that he had some methodology which produces some type of consistent result. A system that consistently picks losers would be equally valuable to a system that consistently picks winners. I think it is safe to assume that he has no such system. Buying his picks to fade them is no different then buying them to play them...... it assumes you believe his methodology produces a coherent result.
No. The approach has too much risk for you. [Note: a guy at another site documented what was available and Stevens went 14-21-1 for a 60% fade. Minus Stevens fee, you're not that far ahead)
While I have no doubt Stevens will top out at ~45% for the football season, the ups and downs of a season and his "pay my commission" model will likely burn you.
Specifically, lets say we take his word at face value (tricky proposition, he is a documented fraud & liar) and you pay $250 for 2 weeks of picks. What if in week 1 he goes 6-4 and demands a commission before giving you any more picks? You're in a bad spot.
Or, even if he gives you the 2nd week of picks, what if in week 2 he goes 50%? You're apparently still on the hook to pay him something, out the $250 and down on the fade.
What do you do at that point? He'll demand more than $250 for any more service and then you're trying to gain ground (you may end up having to bet $3,000 on a SNF game in the hopes of breaking even like 1 of his clients on the show) and it just becomes too much hassle (they will never stop calling you, ever) and stress. IMO.
It sounds good on paper, but I think once you start dealing with this BS, it will become a total nightmare.
While I have no doubt Stevens will top out at ~45% for the football season, the ups and downs of a season and his "pay my commission" model will likely burn you.
Specifically, lets say we take his word at face value (tricky proposition, he is a documented fraud & liar) and you pay $250 for 2 weeks of picks. What if in week 1 he goes 6-4 and demands a commission before giving you any more picks? You're in a bad spot.
Or, even if he gives you the 2nd week of picks, what if in week 2 he goes 50%? You're apparently still on the hook to pay him something, out the $250 and down on the fade.
What do you do at that point? He'll demand more than $250 for any more service and then you're trying to gain ground (you may end up having to bet $3,000 on a SNF game in the hopes of breaking even like 1 of his clients on the show) and it just becomes too much hassle (they will never stop calling you, ever) and stress. IMO.
It sounds good on paper, but I think once you start dealing with this BS, it will become a total nightmare.
But his coin sucks more then your coin
High rollers probably get his GOY's, GOM's , & GOW's. Plus whales like the idea of only paying if they win. It makes them feel like they got something for free, like comps!
Kidding? You must live in a place where there's no stupid people. The world I live in is filled with stupid people just waiting to do stupid things. I live in Nevada and every morning I hear the 1-800 guys selling their picks on ESPN radio and there's a ton of different ones and they don't have shows. I imagine doing infomercials on ESPN isn't free so some idiot out there is paying for it and I imagine there's a more than just a few.
