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Happy Holidays fellas.
I'm sure debate will be hit or miss over the holidays, so I'll take this opportunity to wish you all a safe and happy New Year.

We'll most likely never agree on politics, but remember we're from the same breed of humanity (ok, all of us except JointPleasure) at heart once you strip away the borders, parties and traditions.

Happy Holidays.
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Thanks ( I think ) lander.

The winters get really cold and the wind chill does hurt the bones. I'll be in Florida for a week thawing, over the holidays.
 

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Gee, thanks.

No more gay porn for you Lander -- don't even bother asking.


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Hmmmmmmmmmmm....watch out boys...this could be a vast left wing conspiracy trick.....oh well Happy Holidays to you Lander...hope you get the Limbaugh letter and some Factor gear for XMAS
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P.S. Don't wish Phaedrus anything until he figures out how sugar prices work.
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Hey, I'm readin' over here ...

Seriously, I am correct about the European subsidy process and its effects on prices ((which is why European sugar producers are consistently accused of 'dumping' in foreign markets) but I have been unable to reach any conclusion on whether or not the U.S. scheme is the same.


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Phaedrus,
I was trying to make peace with my enemies first ...

otherwise they would have sabotaged my upcoming "Have a WonDEANful XMas"
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Lander,

Xmas excludes many people. I always stick to Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings. Thank me later,

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Lander,

Xmas excludes many people. I always stick to Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings. Thank me later,

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I know, I know. But it's hard to embed hidden Dean references in "Happy Holidays"
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Phaedrus,

I believe the European sugar situation is the same as the U.S. It is heavily subsidized to keep prices artificially HIGH not LOW. They also dump some of this subsidized sugar (like the U.S. does) to f_ck up the true low cost producers so they can't compete. Europeans on average pay 3 times more than the world market price for sugar.
 

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How much sugar can they grow in Europe anyways? Doesn't it require a little more warmth and humidity than Europe generally provides?

European subsidies are insidious, I remember seeing the conditions of a few of them back in Econ in college. Few are rational, they all are as blatant as W was in his steel tariffs. There is no apology for them, they are plain and simple purchases of votes.
 

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I know, I know. But it's hard to embed hidden Dean references in "Happy Holidays"
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Happy Howardays Lander.
 

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Lander, thank you and I echo the sentiment. I'll be leaving for the holidays soon as well so have a safe and happy holiday.
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WildBill,

I think the subsidies for sugar in Europe come during the refinement stage...they buy a lot of the raw sugar from third world countries dirt cheap and then get the government to subsidize the refinement process and then "dump" it back on the world market.

I'm glad GW reversed his position on steel tariffs...smart move..though the unions don't like it.
 

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Lander and Angus,
Whats funny is I have been going up to people all weekend, and saying "Merry Christmas!!...You got a problem with that?"
As a goof on the PC left.
I was in DC over the weekend, to go to my nieces wedding...and everyone is proud she married a fine Irish Catholic bartender..named Aongus!Irish like to make sure the genes keep the strain pure, and are proud of it.
So to Lander and Angus Ont. Merry Christmas!!...You got a problem with that?
 

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Pat,
I think PC is fuking stupid.

So back at you - MERRY CHRISTMAS
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