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Michigan is already a crazy fucking state with a system where one person can simply reverse election results, and this story is indirectly the result(not to mention trying to discredit people who kept saying the water was poisonous instead of trying to fix the problem):


http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/...ed-its-children-city-declares-water-emergency
Nancy Kaffer, Detroit Free Press Columnist 12:04 a.m. EST December 17, 2015
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When did the State of Michigan first learn that kids in Flint had been poisoned by lead in the city's drinking water?
This is one of the most critical questions to answer in the aftermath of a public health crisis that's still unfolding in one of the state's largest cities.
And it shouldn't be a hard question to answer.
But when I asked Gov. Rick Snyder this week, he said he couldn't recall.
Officials at the state department of health say they didn't know what was happening until a Flint pediatrician released her own analysis in September -- even though data previously collected by the state showed the same trend, a reversal in a decades-long decline in the percentage of kids with lead in their blood.
And the health department has been stalling a Virginia Tech University researcher who has been trying to get public records that could show who knew what, and when.
It's ridiculous. Immediately after Snyder acknowledged there was a problem in Flint, the Free Press editorial board encouraged him not to slow-walk the postmortem. Snyder has appointed an after-action task force to find out what happened, and he told the Free Press this week that he's waiting for that report to provide answers to many of these questions -- but answers should certainly be readily available for the man in charge of the state departments involved in this fiasco.
So inconsistency and obfuscation continue.
Regardless of individual culpability, the water crisis in Flint has shown that the state systems designed to ensure safe drinking water and healthy children tilt toward inertia: Despite mounds of data, despite understanding the consequences of lead exposure, Flint was allowed to pursue a reckless water treatment program with the approval of everyone from the Flint City Council to the state Treasurer's Office and the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality.






Flint switched its water supply in April 2014, drawing its drinking water from the Flint River while a new regional water system it plans to join next year is under construction. The local water treatment plant, with the approval of the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality, failed to add chemicals to the river water that would have prevented lead in aging service lines from leaching into the water. All of these decisions were made with the approval of a series of emergency managers, appointed by Snyder to guide the city back to financial stability.

Within months, the amount of lead in Flint's drinking water soared. Lead poisoning is irreversible, and can cause behavioral and developmental problems in children.
After an initial six-month round of testing was complete in January, results showed that the amount of lead in Flint's water was rising, although still within what state officials say they believed were federal safety guidelines. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency got involved; a memo written by an EPA water regulations manager found fault with both Flint's water treatment and MDEQ's water testing protocol. But nothing happened. State officials continued to insist that Flint's drinking water was safe, even as internal documentation showed that it wasn't.
So, we know that state officials knew that lead in Flint's water was rising, months before officials publicly acknowledged what was happening. But when should the state have known that the percentage of Flint kids with elevated blood-lead levels was growing?
Virginia Tech's Marc Edwards, a MacArthur genius grant recipient who has tested water samples from hundreds of Flint homes, submitted a request under the state's Freedom of Information Act for documents related to elevated blood-lead levels in Flint kids to the state health department in early November. The department notified him later that month that the documents he'd requested were ready. He paid the state's tab, and waited. He's still waiting.






A health department lawyer wrote in an e-mail to Edwards that a "litigation hold" placed by state Attorney General Bill Schuette's office, because of a lawsuit filed by Flint residents alleging the state acted improperly when it switched to river water, meant she couldn't release the documents. But Schuette's office told a Free Press reporter that there was no "litigation hold" (a term Free Press lawyer Herschel Fink, who has decades of experience litigating the rules surrounding public documents, said he'd never heard).

When Edwards informed the lawyer that the AG's office hadn't supported the notion of a litigation hold, the health department lawyer said she needed to review the documents to see if any were subject to attorney-client privilege. Again, Fink looked askance at this explanation: Public documents don't become private by simply virtue of being associated with a lawsuit.
Why is the health department stalling? I'm not sure, and it would be irresponsible to speculate.
For months, state officials denied that the water in Flint had problems. In July, MDEQ spokesman Brad Wurfel told Michigan Radio that folks in Flint could "relax." In an internal e-mail, Wurfel wrote that community groups were keeping people in Flint "hopped up." When Mona Hanna-Attisha, the Flint pediatrician, released her analysis of Flint kids' blood-lead levels, the state's immediate response, across multiple departments, was to attempt to discredit her work. Snyder's spokeswoman said the data used by Hanna-Attisha -- a pediatrician with degrees in medicine and public health -- was "spliced and diced."






And the health department, in response to a Free Press request, sent over a batch of blood-lead testing data that it said would refute Hanna-Attisha's conclusions. But a straightforward reading of the data showed that the state's own blood-lead testing data confirmed the doctor's findings, Free Press data analyst Kristi Tanner found. Yet the state health department continued to deny that the spike in blood-lead levels the doctor identified were anything but a seasonal anomaly. A week later, the health department reversed course, completely endorsing Hanna-Attisha's findings.

Health department spokeswoman Jennifer Eisner wrote in an e-mail: "We work closely with our 45 local health departments across the state to provide public health services. Historically, a request would come to MDHHS from the local health department to conduct epidemiological analysis before our department would have stepped in. As part of our after-action report, we continue to review how we will conduct this process in the future."
But here's the thing: For months, state officials worked diligently, not to investigate the brewing public health crisis in Flint, but to discredit outside experts presenting test results contrary to the state's assertions that everything was fine. And all that time, data that would have shown what was happening was ignored.
Why?
 

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Just googled who the Governor was, and to my surprise, he is a REPUBLICAN.

Damn, was hoping DaFinch would post something bad about a Liberal for a change. But, we all know that Liberals can do no wrong, they are perfect, and there is never anything bad about them.

How did the governor poison people anyway? Was it food poisoning at a dinner function he hosted? Acid rain or something from a plant he sponsored?

I cant read the post and what its about, but Im sure the governor is 100% to blame cause DaFinch said so... and he probobly threw in a few insults as well towards the governor, and proboblay also used the groin and anal stuff.
 

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Just googled who the Governor was, and to my surprise, he is a REPUBLICAN.

Damn, was hoping DaFinch would post something bad about a Liberal for a change. But, we all know that Liberals can do no wrong, they are perfect, and there is never anything bad about them.

How did the governor poison people anyway? Was it food poisoning at a dinner function he hosted? Acid rain or something from a plant he sponsored?

I cant read the post and what its about, but Im sure the governor is 100% to blame cause DaFinch said so... and he probobly threw in a few insults as well towards the governor, and proboblay also used the groin and anal stuff.

How fucking stupid are you????? You keep babbling about ignoring me, yet you, once again, come blundering into a thread I started and reading a post that you claim to be ignoring. You're a fucking moron, why don't you answer your own thread and "lol" at it?
 

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Im going to guess insults as usual? Ill put the odds on this as:

Yes: -10000000000000
No: +99999999999999

Any wagers?

And can anyone copy and paste what this article is about? And also his response in which I am taking wagers?
 

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Flint went back to the Detroit water system about 2 or 3 months ago...

Is that why they declared an emergency 24 hours ago and the following article says, "The emergency declaration allows the city to use millions in state funds for items like water filters, and also to reconnect Flint to the Detroit water system?" As usual, you don't know wtf you're talking about, stick to slurping over Hair Frump and jacking up attendance figures.

http://www.weather.com/news/news/flint-michigan-lead-water-emergency

Mayor of Flint, Michigan, Declares Emergency After Lead Found in Water

Published: 20 hours 12 min ago By Sean Breslin

Last year, the city of Flint, Michigan switched its water source from Detroit's water supply to the Flint River. Now, it's making everyone sick. Bonnie Schneider has the story.


Something hasn't been right in Flint, Michigan, for months. Residents have been getting sick, and the water is so tainted that it damaged car parts at a General Motors plant.
Parents in town, like Lee Anne Walters, won't let their children drink water from the faucet, she told Michigan Radio. For months, they've been surviving off bottled water alone – even for showers.
The problem with the water supply, officials said, is lead. In 2014, Flint switched its water supply to the Flint River, NPR said, and studies of the city's children have revealed dangerously high blood lead levels, Mayor Karen Weaver said. Weaver said the lead could cause irreversible health problems for those who ingest it. As a result, she declared an emergency in hopes that state and federal assistance will put a stop to this "man-made disaster."
(MORE: Toxic Algae Puts Crab Season in Jeopardy)
Lead poisoning is extremely dangerous for children, in particular – 27 percent of the city's 102,000 residents, according to the 2010 U.S. Census. According to the World Health Organization, exposure to lead can cause learning disabilities, behavioral problems and mental retardation.
The tainted water has been a hot topic across the city. Wally Janeczek, the executive chef at Flint Community Schools, told Michigan Radio that the cooks just didn't feel right about the water they were using to make the students' meals, so he began buying massive amounts of bottled water instead.
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Flint residents protest the water quality in the city on Monday, Oct. 5, 2015, outside Flint City Hall in Flint, Michigan. (Danny Miller/The Flint Journal-MLive.com via AP)




“Some of our cooks started mentioning about how the water was smelling and that when they turned it on, it didn’t look quite right,” he said.
Other residents said their eyes burned when they showered, and some noted that they were losing a lot more hair than usual.
Then, there was that problem at the General Motors plant in town. Tom Wickham, a spokesperson for GM's Flint operations, told Michigan Radio that they had to truck in water because the Flint River water was corroding the engines while they were assembled.
“I don’t have that number and that’s not something we’d disclose,” he told Michigan Radio when asked about the associated costs. “When I look at, what I was told at the time was, ‘it’s just a lot of money.’”
The emergency declaration allows the city to use millions in state funds for items like water filters, and also to reconnect Flint to the Detroit water system. Now, it's up to county commissioners to approve the measures needed to bring clean water back to the city.
"We're going to do what we said we were going to do," Weaver told MLive.com. "It can be on their conscience if they don't approve this."
 

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This is an absolute disgrace and those responsible need to be held accountable.

Marc Edwards, a civil engineering professor from Virginia Tech University and a nationally renowned expert on water treatment, has put the blame squarely on the agency in charge of overseeing the safety of Flint’s drinking water, the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality.

Edwards writes:
Given MDEQ’s insistence that there is absolutely nothing wrong with Flint water, we have created a timeline that illustrates how MDEQ’s mistakes and deception created the Flint water crisis in the first place.
In his timeline, Edwards says the state failed to require that the city have a corrosion-control program in place when the city switched over to Flint River water.

Edwards says current estimates are that Flint has about 15,000 drinking water service lines made of lead.

“What we discovered to our shock was that they switched to a new water source that was obviously very corrosive, meaning it would eat up the lead pipe and iron pipe and essentially put the metals into the water, without controlling the corrosion,” Edwards says. “And this is a horrible idea in a city full of lead plumbing and lead pipe like Flint.”

Edwards says current estimates are that Flint has about 15,000 drinking water service lines made of lead.

How dangerous metals can get into drinking water
When water flows through copper and lead pipes, it can take up some of the metal and make the water unsafe. To control for this problem, the Environmental Protection Agency has what’s called a “lead and copper rule."
The purpose of the rule is listed in this “quick reference guide:"
Protect public health by minimizing lead (Pb) and copper (Cu) levels in drinking water, primarily by reducing water corrosivity. Pb and Cu enter drinking water mainly from corrosion of Pb and Cu containing plumbing materials.
To keep these metals from leaching into drinking water, municipal treatment plants can change the water chemistry to lower the water’s ability to corrode these pipes.

It’s called “corrosion control,” and Edwards says the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality covered up the fact that Flint had no corrosion control program in place.

“Before you switch to a new water source, six months to a year ahead of time, you are supposed to do laboratory experiments to determine the corrosivity of the water,” says Edwards. “And the chemistry – the pH, the alkalinity, and the phosphate that you need to make sure that the lead stays on the pipes and out of the water.”

Edwards contends that the new water system had to have a “corrosion control” plan in place so that “you’re not doing an uncontrolled human experiment on a city’s population.”
 
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Is that why they declared an emergency 24 hours ago and the following article says, "The emergency declaration allows the city to use millions in state funds for items like water filters, and also to reconnect Flint to the Detroit water system?" As usual, you don't know wtf you're talking about, stick to slurping over Hair Frump and jacking up attendance figures.

http://www.weather.com/news/news/flint-michigan-lead-water-emergency

Mayor of Flint, Michigan, Declares Emergency After Lead Found in Water

Published: 20 hours 12 min ago By Sean Breslin

Last year, the city of Flint, Michigan switched its water source from Detroit's water supply to the Flint River. Now, it's making everyone sick. Bonnie Schneider has the story.


Something hasn't been right in Flint, Michigan, for months. Residents have been getting sick, and the water is so tainted that it damaged car parts at a General Motors plant.
Parents in town, like Lee Anne Walters, won't let their children drink water from the faucet, she told Michigan Radio. For months, they've been surviving off bottled water alone – even for showers.
The problem with the water supply, officials said, is lead. In 2014, Flint switched its water supply to the Flint River, NPR said, and studies of the city's children have revealed dangerously high blood lead levels, Mayor Karen Weaver said. Weaver said the lead could cause irreversible health problems for those who ingest it. As a result, she declared an emergency in hopes that state and federal assistance will put a stop to this "man-made disaster."
(MORE: Toxic Algae Puts Crab Season in Jeopardy)
Lead poisoning is extremely dangerous for children, in particular – 27 percent of the city's 102,000 residents, according to the 2010 U.S. Census. According to the World Health Organization, exposure to lead can cause learning disabilities, behavioral problems and mental retardation.
The tainted water has been a hot topic across the city. Wally Janeczek, the executive chef at Flint Community Schools, told Michigan Radio that the cooks just didn't feel right about the water they were using to make the students' meals, so he began buying massive amounts of bottled water instead.
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Flint residents protest the water quality in the city on Monday, Oct. 5, 2015, outside Flint City Hall in Flint, Michigan. (Danny Miller/The Flint Journal-MLive.com via AP)




“Some of our cooks started mentioning about how the water was smelling and that when they turned it on, it didn’t look quite right,” he said.
Other residents said their eyes burned when they showered, and some noted that they were losing a lot more hair than usual.
Then, there was that problem at the General Motors plant in town. Tom Wickham, a spokesperson for GM's Flint operations, told Michigan Radio that they had to truck in water because the Flint River water was corroding the engines while they were assembled.
“I don’t have that number and that’s not something we’d disclose,” he told Michigan Radio when asked about the associated costs. “When I look at, what I was told at the time was, ‘it’s just a lot of money.’”
The emergency declaration allows the city to use millions in state funds for items like water filters, and also to reconnect Flint to the Detroit water system. Now, it's up to county commissioners to approve the measures needed to bring clean water back to the city.
"We're going to do what we said we were going to do," Weaver told MLive.com. "It can be on their conscience if they don't approve this."
You dont know WTF youre talikng about asshole....Stick to your New York rats & Garbage...
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2015/10/flint_reconnecting_to_detroit.html
 

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You dont know WTF youre talikng about asshole....Stick to your New York rats & Garbage...
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2015/10/flint_reconnecting_to_detroit.html

First of all, October 16 is NOT "3 months" ago, you lying sack of shit, and it says, right in the title,"may take 3 weeks to clear all pipes." Obviously, it took that long and then some, and is NOT completed, which is why the article from a few says ago says, "The emergency declaration allows the city to use millions in state funds for items like water filters, and also to reconnect Flint to the Detroit water system?" Why would they say "reconnect Flint" if it was already done, you fucking idiot?????Slapping-silly90))Loser!@#0:madasshol:trx-smly0:kissingbb:bigfinger:fckmad::Countdown
 

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Flints a shit hole.> Just a bunch of welfare sucking leach democrats living there anyway. If they want clean water they should give up some of their food stamps and buy bottled waters instead of Kool Menthol Kings and Mickey's Malt Liquor.
 

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Imagine if a Democrat governor did what that turd Snyder did, and right wing whack jobs have the gall to talk about the influence of the liberal media:

[h=1]Rick Snyder owes a lot more to the kids who were poisoned by his governance[/h] By LOLGOP on January 1, 2016

[h=2]An apology must be just the beginning of the investment that must be made to rebuild the city[/h]

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This week the people of Flint, Michigan finally got an apology from the governor who appointed both the Emergency Manager who approved the poisoning of the city’s water and the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality officials who dismissed citizens “perfectly legitimate scientific concern” about the water.
He also accepted the resignation of two of MDEQ employees. More should be on the way.
His “very sorry” will do nothing to avoid the permanent damage to kids’ IQs and emotional stability that is likely because the city’s water simply wasn’t properly treated and rather than accept that reality, the state covered it up.
Here’s some background on the negligence in Flint from Al-Jazeera:
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Melissa Harris-Perry reported on the governor’s apology on Tuesday as she sat in for Rachel Maddow.
Her commentary focused on how Snyder refused to take any accountability for a crisis that was created entirely by the undemocratic Emergency Manager regime and carried out exclusively by people who reported entirely to Rick Snyder — until Maddow and others directly called the governor out.
Now that Snyder has accepted some responsibility — during the one week a year that people are least likely to be paying to attention to the news.
The MLive Editorial Board recommended this course of action:

  • Drop executive privilege and release all of his communications on Flint water.
  • Request an investigation from the U.S. Attorney’s office so that subpoenas can be issued.
  • Replace every lead water service line in the city of Flint.
  • Start a process for compensating families whose children have elevated levels of lead in their blood.
  • Return Flint to local control.

On the Maddow show, Congressperson Dan Kildee demanded more than an apology and more than people losing their jobs. He specifically called for early childhood education to “offset” the damage that has been done to the kids of Flint.
Flint is a city that has suffered the worst of the deindustrialization of America and the conservative cuts and intentionally deprivation of our tax base that have savaged our cities. Kildee points out that the damage to the city’s kids is only compounded by the further damage that has been done to Flint’s decimated image.
A commitment to do everything he can to mitigate the damage his policies have done is not enough from Rick Snyder. He must commit to rebuilding a shattered city that has only been more afflicted by his radical, undemocratic approach to governing.
The governor has made it clear that when it comes to this crisis he will continually do the least he can do. We must make it clear that that is not enough.
[url]http://www.eclectablog.com/2016/01/rick-snyder-owes-a-lot-more-to-the-kids-who-were-poisoned-by-his-governance.html[/URL]
 
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Duhfinch should stick to his own backyard such as the rat problem in NYC partially caused by the ghetto mentality of just pitching trash in the streets instead of a trash can....To be fair NYC not the only place in the country with this problem I see it everywhere...
 

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Duhfinch should stick to his own backyard such as the rat problem in NYC partially caused by the ghetto mentality of just pitching trash in the streets instead of a trash can....To be fair NYC not the only place in the country with this problem I see it everywhere...

First of all, I don't live in NYC, asshole, and secondly, trying to act as if one shouldn't be concerned about children in other cities being poisoned by an overreaching, brain dead politician, is incredibly stupid, even for YOU. Go back to overestimating the crowds at Republican rallies, you lying scumbag.cockingasnook()Loser!@#0:madasshol^^:):trx-smly0:kissingbb:fckmad::Countdown
 

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Oh goodie, douche bag is back.
 

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First of all, I don't live in NYC, asshole, and secondly, trying to act as if one shouldn't be concerned about children in other cities being poisoned by an overreaching, brain dead politician, is incredibly stupid, even for YOU. Go back to overestimating the crowds at Republican rallies, you lying scumbag.cockingasnook()Loser!@#0:madasshol^^:):trx-smly0:kissingbb:fckmad::Countdown

But yet your Ok with Obama and his overreach. Fucking idiot liberal hypocrites.
 

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But yet your Ok with Obama and his overreach. Fucking idiot liberal hypocrites.

WHAT "overreach," you pea brain putz. Go lay some pipe with Mama Gas Bag on your "yahct."Loser!@#0cockingasnook():madasshol:bigfinger:fckmad::trx-smly0:kissingbb:Countdown
 
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First of all, I don't live in NYC, asshole, and secondly, trying to act as if one shouldn't be concerned about children in other cities being poisoned by an overreaching, brain dead politician, is incredibly stupid, even for YOU. Go back to overestimating the crowds at Republican rallies, you lying scumbag.cockingasnook()Loser!@#0:madasshol^^:):trx-smly0:kissingbb:fckmad::Countdown
Says Bronx Ny....NYC burrough right?......Its a shithole of a place...
 

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Says Bronx Ny....NYC burrough right?......Its a shithole of a place...

Let's see: you don't know how to count(estimating a crowd of 5,000 to be 15,000); you don't know how to read(see post # 13); and you don't know how to spell("burrough?????")

You really ARE a moron, aren't you? And when the Rep nominee takes in the shorts, you'll scurry back down your rat hole, just like you did in 2012...cockingasnook()Loser!@#0:madasshol^^:):trx-smly0:kissingbb:fckmad::Countdown
 

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But yet your Ok with Obama and his overreach. Fucking idiot liberal hypocrites.
Lol...as if you don't know what overreah I am referring to.
 
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I read post 13.....Like I said it says Bronx,NY...If you dont live in NY why would you post you do?.....This whole thread is stupid anyway....Michigan Gov had nothing to do with water problem in Flint....Join DateSep 2007Locationbronx, nyPosts4,329
 

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