This is a perfect example of why there will NEVER be peace between the Arabs and Israel. When the Arabs learn that they need to accept the State of Israel as a country than peace can be had.
In schools they are taught to hate the Jews. For those of you that say that Israel is a controlling force in there land; you have to remember, Israel was going to give up all this land to the Palestines, except Jerusalem, and they turned it down
THe main goal of Hamas and Islamic Jihad is the complete distruction of Israel. If you do not believe this go on Hamas web site and see for yourself.
When Israel was given its statehood in 1948, what did the Arabs do? They declared war. Israel was content to live within the boundries of the UN, the Arabs were not.
IN June 1966, Egypt ordered all UN troops out of the Sinai, in preperation of an attack. Israel, seeing that, attacked first and the result was the occupation of these lands.
In a peace treaty with Egypt, they GAVE back the Sinai to them. So you can see, if you make peace with Israel, you get your land back. When Syria and the Palestines understand this, than, and only than, will peace come to be.
In schools they are taught to hate the Jews. For those of you that say that Israel is a controlling force in there land; you have to remember, Israel was going to give up all this land to the Palestines, except Jerusalem, and they turned it down
THe main goal of Hamas and Islamic Jihad is the complete distruction of Israel. If you do not believe this go on Hamas web site and see for yourself.
When Israel was given its statehood in 1948, what did the Arabs do? They declared war. Israel was content to live within the boundries of the UN, the Arabs were not.
IN June 1966, Egypt ordered all UN troops out of the Sinai, in preperation of an attack. Israel, seeing that, attacked first and the result was the occupation of these lands.
In a peace treaty with Egypt, they GAVE back the Sinai to them. So you can see, if you make peace with Israel, you get your land back. When Syria and the Palestines understand this, than, and only than, will peace come to be.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by A2345exxx:
Sonny: The way you put it made it sound so simple when it clearly is not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If a foreign country suddenly appeared in the middle of the United States one sunny afternoon, Say a new country for the Red Indian tribes, covering half your continent. (November 29, 1947)because "the UN sez it exists" I'm sure that Americans would say "no problem, help yourself. Take it, its yours, you deserve it.".
Sonny: The way you put it made it sound so simple when it clearly is not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If a foreign country suddenly appeared in the middle of the United States one sunny afternoon, Say a new country for the Red Indian tribes, covering half your continent. (November 29, 1947)because "the UN sez it exists" I'm sure that Americans would say "no problem, help yourself. Take it, its yours, you deserve it.".
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eek:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by A2345exxx:
Sonny: The way you put it made it sound so simple when it clearly is not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If a foreign country suddenly appeared in the middle of the United States one sunny afternoon, Say a new country for the Red Indian tribes, covering half your continent. (November 29, 1947)because "the UN sez it exists" I'm sure that Americans would say "no problem, help yourself. Take it, its yours, you deserve it.".
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Actually, most Indian tribes are sovereign nations that operate businesses like casinos or smoke shops that don't follow the laws that the average Joe Blow has to follow. I've never seen more blonde-haired blue-eyed Indians than the ones running these enterprises. I lived next to a Paiute smoke shop owner about 10 years ago so I know they make a killing.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by A2345exxx:
Sonny: The way you put it made it sound so simple when it clearly is not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If a foreign country suddenly appeared in the middle of the United States one sunny afternoon, Say a new country for the Red Indian tribes, covering half your continent. (November 29, 1947)because "the UN sez it exists" I'm sure that Americans would say "no problem, help yourself. Take it, its yours, you deserve it.".
Actually, most Indian tribes are sovereign nations that operate businesses like casinos or smoke shops that don't follow the laws that the average Joe Blow has to follow. I've never seen more blonde-haired blue-eyed Indians than the ones running these enterprises. I lived next to a Paiute smoke shop owner about 10 years ago so I know they make a killing.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eek:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by A2345exxx:
Sonny: The way you put it made it sound so simple when it clearly is not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If a foreign country suddenly appeared in the middle of the United States one sunny afternoon, Say a new country for the Red Indian tribes, covering half your continent. (November 29, 1947)because "the UN sez it exists" I'm sure that Americans would say "no problem, help yourself. Take it, its yours, you deserve it.".
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Ok, lets go back to some history. First of all let us take a look at the Countries that surround Israel. Jordan,Lebanon,Syria,Egypt,Iran,Iraq, and Saudi Arabia.
Under the Balfour Decleration of 1917,there was to exist a Jewish State, called Israel.
In 1922 the British divided Palestine into Two administrative districts. Jews, would be permitted on the West side only.
In 1946 the British,partioned Palestine and created an independent Palestine Arab state known as Jordan.
In 1947 the UN,General Assembly voted with a two thirds majority to partition western Palestine into a Jewish and a Arab state. Of course, the Arabs rejected it.
When Israel declared its independence in 1948,Lebanon, Syria, Egypt,Jordan and Iraq invaded Israel, with the intent of destroying it.
About 720,000 refugees fled from Israel.
In 1949 Israel signed an armistice with Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan. No attempt was made by any Arab country to solve the Refugee problem.
Of course that brings us to the Six day war in 1967. The disputed West bank had belonged to Jordan. Between 1968 and 1969 the PLO had established a nation within a nation in Jordan.They tried to overthrow King Hussein Hussein, tried to offer Arafat a government with the Jordanian people. Arafat refused.
Three major attempts, the latest being the Yom Kippur war, was carried out by the Arabs with the purpose of destroying Israel. Yet, Israel, still seeks peace. Israel, gave back the Sinai and signed a peace treaty with Jordan and Egypt. Of course, they were close to an agreement with the Palestinians, which would have resulted in a INDEPENDENT Palestinian state. Arafats vision of the Middle East, is one where Israel, does not exist.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by A2345exxx:
Sonny: The way you put it made it sound so simple when it clearly is not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If a foreign country suddenly appeared in the middle of the United States one sunny afternoon, Say a new country for the Red Indian tribes, covering half your continent. (November 29, 1947)because "the UN sez it exists" I'm sure that Americans would say "no problem, help yourself. Take it, its yours, you deserve it.".
Ok, lets go back to some history. First of all let us take a look at the Countries that surround Israel. Jordan,Lebanon,Syria,Egypt,Iran,Iraq, and Saudi Arabia.
Under the Balfour Decleration of 1917,there was to exist a Jewish State, called Israel.
In 1922 the British divided Palestine into Two administrative districts. Jews, would be permitted on the West side only.
In 1946 the British,partioned Palestine and created an independent Palestine Arab state known as Jordan.
In 1947 the UN,General Assembly voted with a two thirds majority to partition western Palestine into a Jewish and a Arab state. Of course, the Arabs rejected it.
When Israel declared its independence in 1948,Lebanon, Syria, Egypt,Jordan and Iraq invaded Israel, with the intent of destroying it.
About 720,000 refugees fled from Israel.
In 1949 Israel signed an armistice with Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan. No attempt was made by any Arab country to solve the Refugee problem.
Of course that brings us to the Six day war in 1967. The disputed West bank had belonged to Jordan. Between 1968 and 1969 the PLO had established a nation within a nation in Jordan.They tried to overthrow King Hussein Hussein, tried to offer Arafat a government with the Jordanian people. Arafat refused.
Three major attempts, the latest being the Yom Kippur war, was carried out by the Arabs with the purpose of destroying Israel. Yet, Israel, still seeks peace. Israel, gave back the Sinai and signed a peace treaty with Jordan and Egypt. Of course, they were close to an agreement with the Palestinians, which would have resulted in a INDEPENDENT Palestinian state. Arafats vision of the Middle East, is one where Israel, does not exist.
The Balfour Declaration was a sympathetic letter about a Jewish homeland.
The letter was written in a country (The UK) that was the colonial ruler over an area of the middle east whose native inhabitants were called WOGS.(Arabs)
Its legality for anything beyond some cocktail party chit-chat is nil.
Like I say, If an arbitary UN declaration was to split the USA in half, giving the 'new' half to the native Indians, the rest of the population might get a bit pissed off.
But because the Red Indians only wanted peace, that would make it ok...
The letter was written in a country (The UK) that was the colonial ruler over an area of the middle east whose native inhabitants were called WOGS.(Arabs)
Its legality for anything beyond some cocktail party chit-chat is nil.
Like I say, If an arbitary UN declaration was to split the USA in half, giving the 'new' half to the native Indians, the rest of the population might get a bit pissed off.
But because the Red Indians only wanted peace, that would make it ok...
eek,
The Indians were unable to hold their territory militarily just as the Palestinians can't hold their territory. When you lose there are ramifications that might include loss of territory. If you want to fight and then when you do you lose, you got to pay the piper.
As someone with Indian heritage I see little in connection with the Palestinians other than some armed struggles against a very strong foe.
The Indians were unable to hold their territory militarily just as the Palestinians can't hold their territory. When you lose there are ramifications that might include loss of territory. If you want to fight and then when you do you lose, you got to pay the piper.
As someone with Indian heritage I see little in connection with the Palestinians other than some armed struggles against a very strong foe.
