Scott frost takes over as head coach of UCF

Addicted2quack · Dec 1, 2015

Can't say I'm surprised he left, but I figured Iowa state was a better fit for him. Really unsure as to why he chose UCF. I understand the talent level is much higher in the state of Florida lol, but he has connections all over the Midwest and the Iowa state job would have been a seamless transition for him into an area he's very familiar with and a conference dominated by spread offenses. I kind of feel he took the easy way out here basically giving himself a job that's as secure as it can possibly be... After going 0-12 you basically get all the time you need to implement your own style and touch on the program... At least Iowa state was competitive and had a pulse...

Hes going to have trouble recruiting that area at first, to many coaches with their hands already in that state...

interesting to to say the least. Excited to see which direction Oregon goes now. Hopefully they go back to more of a true spread with a mobile QB.

i can't hate frost for what he did at Oregon, but I am a little relieved to see a new era ushered in. I think it's a great move for both parties. Bol to him as he now moves into the head coaching realm.

Knightrofins · Dec 1, 2015

I'm excited about Frost coming to UCF. Although we all know its a stepping stone until something bigger and better comes along

Wanger · Dec 1, 2015

Very little chance they look outside the program and don't promote from within, if Matt Lubick doesn't get the job I'd be shocked.

Addicted2quack · Dec 1, 2015

Wanger said:
Very little chance they look outside the program and don't promote from within, if Matt Lubick doesn't get the job I'd be shocked.

I agree reed and my good friend who still has close ties with media relations their feels he same way.... I however think they will gladly entertain some outside visitors because of how profile they are. That position, with respect to Alabama is easily the most sought after OC position in the country... I say that because of the facilities, financial backing and notoriety.... I'm sure they will gladly invite some people in to have discussions...

oregon loves developing coaches like they do talent, and I like lubick, especially what he's done, but stepping into the Oregon OC role is a tall glass of whiskey to drink. Big shoes to fill every time a new guy is ushered into that role. Oregon is without a doubt one of the top 10 offenses every year for the past decade, and that has now become a requirement to maintain. If they choose him I hope he's ready for the big stage. Lots of great minds with phenomenal schemes that would love to coach that offense

Wanger · Dec 1, 2015

If I'm not mistaken he was one of Helfrich's first hires and has done a amazing job with the WR's, I'm sure they will get a ton of inquires but don't see them changing how they have almost always promoted from within.

Last time they went outside to hire a coordinator it was none other than Chip Kelly, hell he may need a job in a few months lol

Addicted2quack · Dec 1, 2015

Wanger said:
If I'm not mistaken he was one of Helfrich's first hires and has done a amazing job with the WR's, I'm sure they will get a ton of inquires but don't see them changing how they have almost always promoted from within.

Last time they went outside to hire a coordinator it was none other than Chip Kelly, hell he may need a job in a few months lol

Lol... So if chip Kelly was available this offseason and expressed interest in Oregon what would they do? Better yet, what should they do in that hypothetical situation.?

CoachCB · Dec 1, 2015

Agree, this is a good but odd hire. Indications on Sunday were that Dino Babers was taking the job, which would have been a better hire (proven head coach and likely to stick around longer).

Albatross · Dec 1, 2015

UCF is a great job. Sleeping giant imo.

cloverleaf · Dec 1, 2015

Albatross said:
UCF is a great job. Sleeping giant imo.

I totally agree.

Frost has a 'Great' opportunity at this school. He damn better hire assistants who
can recruit. Talent is there within driving distance. He needs good recruiters to lock a few.

Addicted2quack · Dec 1, 2015

You are all right, but ultimately you know he wants to end up back at Nebraska. Hell of a lot easier to go from Iowa state to Nebraska when the door opens up rather than central Florida to Nebraska. His connections are all Midwest based anyways and Iowa state may not be a power but they are in a power five conference. Makes the move a no brainier for Nebraska as soon as he starts having succes at Iowa state to bring him in for the long haul where you would assume he wants to stay for the rest of his life... Assume being the key word, maybe he doesn't, but I feel he does...

iowa state to Nebraska is almost a seamless transition in my opinion.

cloverleaf · Dec 1, 2015

Lost me Quack....Jez, smoke another one....might clear the FOG.

Knightrofins · Dec 2, 2015

I read last nite that UCF first offered Schiano the job but he turned it town b/c he felt is interview with Miami went very well.

I hope i'm wrong but i dont see Frost staying with UCF for too long. Although i'm hearing that he currently is not getting along w/ Nebraska's administration. However, he'll bolt to a power 5 conference school once he has success in Orlando

RunLeeRun · Dec 2, 2015

Addicted2quack said:
You are all right, but ultimately you know he wants to end up back at Nebraska. Hell of a lot easier to go from Iowa state to Nebraska when the door opens up rather than central Florida to Nebraska. His connections are all Midwest based anyways and Iowa state may not be a power but they are in a power five conference. Makes the move a no brainier for Nebraska as soon as he starts having succes at Iowa state to bring him in for the long haul where you would assume he wants to stay for the rest of his life... Assume being the key word, maybe he doesn't, but I feel he does...

iowa state to Nebraska is almost a seamless transition in my opinion.

Not sure I agree on ISU being a better stepping stone, that place is a graveyard. One of the worst programs in that conference playing a round robin schedule. Not a very high ceiling, if you ask me. At UCF he won't be stepping on the field with the inferior talent every game like ISU. And at 0-12, if he flips that team in the next few years, with the nature of college football, a big program will come calling. Hard to say if he accepts, I've heard he has said to not have much interest for "fishbowl" jobs, at least at the moment.

RunLeeRun · Dec 2, 2015

Knightrofins said:
I read last nite that UCF first offered Schiano the job but he turned it town b/c he felt is interview with Miami went very well.

I hope i'm wrong but i dont see Frost staying with UCF for too long. Although i'm hearing that he currently is not getting along w/ Nebraska's administration. However, he'll bolt to a power 5 conference school once he has success in Orlando

I'm not sure why Frost would even have any kind of intimate contact with NU AD. Anyway, Nebraska has a coaching staff that isn't going anywhere for at least 3 more years. I can't see them consistently bombing in their division as the top recruiting program..and trending up at the moment.

As long as we are throwing out all the rumors....we all know the real reason Scott left Oregon. The Ducks visit Lincoln in 2016....he couldn't stomach boat-racing his alma mater.

Knightrofins · Dec 2, 2015

RunLeeRun said:
I'm not sure why Frost would even have any kind of intimate contact with NU AD. Anyway, Nebraska has a coaching staff that isn't going anywhere for at least 3 more years. I can't see them consistently bombing in their division as the top recruiting program..and trending up at the moment.

As long as we are throwing out all the rumors....we all know the real reason Scott left Oregon. The Ducks visit Lincoln in 2016....he couldn't stomach boat-racing his alma mater.

Interesting...

I live in South Florida and i compare the canes program to Nebraska's program. A once super super dominant program who hasnt done squat in over a decade. Main reason is that other teams have caught up to them and passed them in recruiting and facilities. Both fan bases believe their team should be like the teams they threw out in the 80's and 90's and not sure if we'll ever see that on a consistent level ever again. (and i grew up a big canes fan and still want them to have success)

RunLeeRun · Dec 2, 2015

Knightrofins said:
Interesting...

I live in South Florida and i compare the canes program to Nebraska's program. A once super super dominant program who hasnt done squat in over a decade. Main reason is that other teams have caught up to them and passed them in recruiting and facilities. Both fan bases believe their team should be like the teams they threw out in the 80's and 90's and not sure if we'll ever see that on a consistent level ever again. (and i grew up a big canes fan and still want them to have success)

I was kidding about the rumor part, just in case....both programs you mentioned have stumbled because they lost elite coaches. Elite coaches create advantages in recruiting and...maybe not facilities, but other aspects. For example, Tom Osborne basically was the first person to implement weight training into college football, then the training table (nutrition), the counter play, which OSU used to destroy Oregon last year. Those are the things great coaching gets you. Each has their own angle....when those programs get great coaching again, they will return. Until then....

Addicted2quack · Dec 2, 2015

Here's my reasoning, and it's rather simple... If he goes to Iowa state and wins with their facilities, players and lack of recruiting he's doing so In a power 5 conference with a lot less talent than most school in those conferences.... Thats more Impressive in my opinion. Going to UCF and beating average teams with a plethora of Florida talent isn't impressive, it's safe... Maybe the safe play is the right play for him being a first time coach, but I just think with his Midwest connections he wouldn't have as much trouble recruiting players right away. Him being in Florida is going to be shellshocked. He doesn't know the region at all, and likely won't be able to recruit well for the first two seasons seeing how he's a Midwest guy taking over an 0-12 team in Florida in a non power five conference....UCF has phenomenal aspirations as a program and he's a great offensive mind but I just think it was a "safe" play... If he fails no one will blame him.... See what I'm saying???

Mosi · Dec 2, 2015

I see what you are saying A2Q. Word in Central Florida is he took less money ($1.7 per 5 years) in order to hire stronger assistants. I would be surprised if he does not hire at least a couple of high school veteran coaches in order to get a pipeline going. I would think from the south and the central part of the state. As well, as staff from the Midwest and maybe even the West.

UCF has high aspiration to become part of the Big 12. It was going fiarly well until this year. They will expand at some point and UCF does offer some nice things, including a large media market (especially when tied to Tampa and Jacksonville), which currently happens in the reverse in the NFL.

I think Frost can sell an exciting style of play that O'Leary could not sustain. If he hires the right staff to recruit Florida, the Panhandle, the NE, and uses his connections in the Midwest and the West, perhaps he can build UCF to a power of sorts. The school has good facilities and deeper pockets than most believe.

Only time will tell. We shall see in 2 to 3 years where the Knights are at competitively and conference wise. I am not a fan, just a displaced resident who has been here too long.