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By Michael Silverman
Wednesday, October 13, 2004

NEW YORK - Curt Schilling [stats, news]'s availability for the rest of the ALCS is entirely up in the air after the Red Sox [stats, schedule] starter experienced significant discomfort in his right ankle during his extremely rocky, three-inning start in Game 1 last night.

Schilling was injected with enough of the anesthetic Marcaine so that he did not feel pain in last night's start, but each time he pushed off his drive foot he felt a ``popping'' in the injured ankle. He said the injury affected his focus on the mound and resulted in poor pitches, enabling the Yankees to punish Schilling for six hits and six runs in his three short innings of the Yankees' 10-7 win.

Schilling was scheduled to pitch in Game 5 but because he threw just 58 pitches, he could be fresh enough to pitch in Game 4. But that seems a highly unlikely scenario. Prudent minds would place a question mark for Schilling's availability for Game 5 - if that.

``We'll wake up (today) and go from there,'' he said about what comes next. ``If I can't go out there with something better than what I had today, I won't go back out there. This is about winning a world championship. It's popping is what it's doing. It's causing me, in a nutshell, to think about things other than what I was pitching.''

Manager Terry Francona was also unable to look too far into Schilling's future.

``It's way too early,'' Francona said. ``You're getting so far ahead. We played one game.''

Schilling retired the first two batters he faced but back-to-back doubles from Gary Sheffield and Hideki Matsui, followed by a Bernie Williams single, gave the Yankees a quick 2-0 lead.

After a 1-2-3 second inning, Schilling fell apart in the third, surrendering four runs. He was done and five Red Sox relievers closed out the game.

``I was just trying as hard as I could to focus pitch to pitch, but I can't argue with the manager taking me out at that time,'' Schilling said. ``I couldn't get the job done.''

Pushing off the pitching rubber is the hang-up with Schilling, who after the game said he still felt numbness in the ankle because of the Marcaine. The ankle affects his finely tuned mechanics, which in turn affect his control and velocity.

``I knew from the way I was throwing the baseball, I wasn't getting everything out of it,'' Schilling said of his ankle. ``I know my stride foot was landing about a foot shorter than usual.''

Francona said it's unlikely Schilling worsened his injury during last night's outing. ``I don't think he was hurting, he just wasn't right, wasn't driving, and we'll talk later,'' the manager said. ``We had a game to get through and try to win but he just didn't look right. He didn't complain about any pain or anything like that.''

Schilling's ankle injury bothered him for much of the first half of the regular season, and he aggravated the injury in Game 1 of the Division Series against the Angels. There was some doubt about his availability for Game 1 of the ALCS, but a positive bullpen session at Fenway Park Sunday convinced him and the Sox brass he was good to go.

``I still had good enough stuff to beat those guys. I just couldn't make my pitches,'' said Schilling, who described his bullpen session before the game as ``horrible'' but added that does not always correlate to the quality of his start.

``The results weren't there, obviously,'' catcher Jason Varitek [stats, news] said. ``But I'm not going to take anything away from what (the Yankees) did.''

Schilling also gave the Bombers their due.

``I've been looking forward to this for almost a year. It's incredibly disappointing,'' he said. ``They were better than me tonight - a lot better than me.''




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this could be 4-0

The only thing that was positive is how they battled back but they must carry that into tonight or it is all over
 

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jjgold said:
this could be 4-0

The only thing that was positive is how they battled back but they must carry that into tonight or it is all over
Given the fact that the Yankee's pitching staff is horrendous, the above statement is ludicrous...

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I would prefer that the Yanks beat the best that the Sox could offer, Hell, I'll take them anyway I can get them especially since Boston is not getting the Yankees' best team when healthy.Tonight we'll see what this team is made of.
 

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Fishhead said:
I can see the Bosox winning 4 straight now.
Fish, please stop now. For a while I thought you were different from the other Sox fans.

Admittedly, we face a tough three games if Pedro is on, Arroyo (sp?) continues his greatness, and Wakefield continues to own the Yanks. With that said, the Sox have virtually no chance to win 4 in a row against this team.

I like your optimism but you are setting yourself up for nothing but disappointment and holes in your walls.
 

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Is it just me or is the line on tonight's game a tad low?

ASAP is showing RED SOX minus $1.44...

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Pedro has not been very good all year with a 3.90 era but He also lost his last 4 regular season starts and actually wasn't all that impressive in his win over Angels giving up 3 runs in 7 innings. I think the + 140 on Yanks is on the high side and a good value with the Yanks at home and a question mark in Pedro who has a terrible record against the Yanks !
 

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Boston is way overpriced, both in the games and series. Before last night's game, I had the fair series price at Boston -120, and last night's game at BOS-114.

Tonight, you're seeing the same thing - all this Boston money pounding up the line. I make Lieber a -105 fav over Boston tonight, and played it before yesterday's game. You can now get +142 on the Yanks - a 5-cent bonus over lyesterday because Boston fans are "sure" Boston won't drop two in a row.

If you assume Schilling won't pitch until game 5, and he pitches normally then, I still see a little value in Yanks - fair series price would be NYY-156 (No vig)
 

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I would tend to agree with you 100% Kermit.

Throw in the fact that the Bosox used Timlin, Embree, and Foulke last night also into the equation.
 

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Associated Press
Posted: 44 minutes ago



NEW YORK (AP) - Curt Schilling needs surgery on his injured right ankle, but the Red Sox hope he will still be able to pitch Game 5 of the AL championship series Sunday.

Schilling lasted just three innings and 58 pitches in Boston's 10-7 loss to the New York Yankees in Tuesday night's opener, allowing six runs, his poorest playoff performance since 1993.

The Red Sox said the sheath that covers a tendon in Schilling's ankle is torn.

"The tendon is snapping over the bone," Red Sox physician Dr. Bill Morgan said Wednesday.

Schilling will undergo surgery after the postseason and will need about three months to recover. If the injury occurred during the season, Morgan said Schilling would have been placed on the disabled list.

Schilling pitched with a brace Tuesday and had a shot of painkiller in the ankle. Still, he had trouble pushing off the rubber with his right leg.

The Red Sox hope a better brace will help, but if not, Schilling's season will be over.
 

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Injuries are part of the game..Yanks have then too,,,,what a damn shame!

Pedro and Boston 11-19 when he starts vs New York...
 

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Yanks win again ! I can't wait to see what the line is on the next game as so far the Boston fans seem to think the Yanks suck but perhaps they should simply look in the mirror. Seriously going in everybody gave a huge pitching advantage to Boston but with Schilling perhaps hurting and maybe even out and Pedro pitching quite poorly of late... Where is Boston's big advantage ?
 

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