Yeah solid advice from Mr. Sartin. Like the challenge of the unknown factors, but like I said I lower the roll for those. Thx.Thanks guys same to all of you. Yes Jack I avoid races with more then 1 unknown factor. BHP I remember when I was struggling along and Doc Sartin ask myself and 2 others do you really want to win?. Of course we all answered yes and he stated then follow directions and stop playing those damn races you don't belong in. We took our kick in the butt and started on the road to winning.