Sad State of America's Stupid College Students

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[ Thanks to the American Public School System, and the liberal NEA ]

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The sad, sad state of college English


By Michael Olesker
Examiner Columnist | 11/14/08 9:59 PM Some people collect sports memorabilia, or rare coins, or sea shells from the beach at Ocean City. Wilson Watson collects sentences.

He taught local community college students for 35 years and has now slipped gently into retirement. But his students’ sentences trail behind him like ship’s anchors, evidence of the sinking of American writing skills.

Or, as one of Watson’s scholars wrote so succinctly: “Some people use bad language and is not even aware of the fact.”

Or, another: “It’s good I’m doing something with my self; Therefore, I can do better in the foochure.”

Or, “People who murder a lot of people are called masked murderers.”

Some of this feels like masked murder of the English language — such as the student who explained in a note, “I was absent on Monday because I was stopped on the Beltway for erotic driving.”

Watson taught English at Catonsville Community College — now the Catonsville branch of the Community College of Baltimore County — and through the years was occasionally amused and sometimes appalled at his students’ writing. Eventually, he started jotting down their sentences and holding onto them.

“Understand,” he says, “this is not just Catonsville I’m talking about. Through the years, I’d talk with colleagues all over the state. They all had the same stories. We’d ask each other, ‘What’s happened to writing? What’s happened to language?’”

You want more examples? How about these beauties:
• “The person was an innocent by standard, who just happened to be the victim of your friend’s careless responsibility.”
• “Society has moved toward cereal killers.”
• “Romeo and Juliet exchanged their vowels.”
• “Willie Loman put Biff on a petal stool.”
• “Another effect of smoking is it may give you cancer of the thought.”
• “The children of lesbian couples receive as much neutering as those of other couples." Or, when asked to use the past tense of “fly” in a sentence: “I flought to Chicago.”

Some sentences reflect a lack not only of basic thought, but also of historical awareness. Such as:
• “Benjamin Franklin discovered America while fling a kite.”
• “Christopher Columbus sailed all over the world until he found Ohio.”
• “Many attempt to blame Kurt Schmoke for the decline in the population, yet Donald Schaefer suffered the same oral deal.”
• “Michaelangelo painted the ceiling of the Sixteenth Chapel.” “All these sentences,” Watson says, “were written by college students who were not intending to be funny. But they don’t read much any more, and they haven’t had much exposure to language. And it’s gotten worse over the years.

“The thing that’s really concerned many of us is the inability of many students to think clearly. It’s reflected in their writing. Some of it’s just gibberish. It reads as if written by someone for whom English is a second language, with mixed-up phrases and ideas. You ask them what they mean, and they can’t tell you verbally, either.”

The result is students saying things they clearly don’t intend to say, or spelling things that make their sentences take on entirely new meanings. For example:
• “Keith helps me to have good self-a-steam.”
• “For example, one homeless person lives under a bride in Lanham, Md.”
• “Jogging on a woman’s ovaries can be dangerous to her health.”
• “Including snakes, most people consume six meals a day.”
• “The French benefits of this job are good.”
• “Christopher Columbus discovered America while sailing in Spain.” “Most students,” says Watson, “make it clear that they don’t like to read, and they don’t want to read. Many struggled tremendously with their reading. So they just wouldn’t do it. And yet it’s so important.

“When you read, you get to see the language used correctly, and you’re exposed to a range of vocabulary far beyond your own. I listen to students today, and the number of words they use is limited to slang and colloquialisms.

“Also, we live in a culture where everything moves so quickly that you don’t have time to think about it. Reading lets you slow things down and think about them. But, because they don’t want to read, you get sentences like these.”
• “Jogging is excellent exercise anywhere, but I prefer to jog in a warm climax.”
• “My brother and I took a fairy across to Martha’s Vineyard.”
• “A very good thing for your health is the Arabic exercise.” “I should point out,” says Watson, “that there are differences in students. Adult students — of whom there are many — are very willing to do the kind of work you need to do. They’ve had experience in the workplace and know what it takes to succeed.

“And international students — from Russia, from Africa, from the Middle East — they really, really work hard.”
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and these are only the examples from gtc08 and punter ;)
 

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The reality is your getting what your government pays for. They want stupid people. They dont want you to understand economics. They dont want you to understand policy. They dont want you to be able to figure out what is going on. I mean its not rocket science here boys. And its not partisan. Not by a long shot. From your drinking water to JP Morgan buying WAMU to the difference between Obama and McCain, people on the whole are dumbed down. This isnt an accident. Stop acting so surprised.
 
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The reality is your getting what your government pays for. They want stupid people. They dont want you to understand economics. They dont want you to understand policy. They dont want you to be able to figure out what is going on. I mean its not rocket science here boys. And its not partisan. Not by a long shot. From your drinking water to JP Morgan buying WAMU to the difference between Obama and McCain, people on the whole are dumbed down. This isnt an accident. Stop acting so surprised.

It's not that the government wants stupid people, it's that
the government is inept and screws up everything they
get their hands on.
 

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It's not that the government wants stupid people, it's that
the government is inept and screws up everything they
get their hands on.

Its not the government that wants all this. I didn't word right what i was trying to say in the opening few sentences. Its what they pay for. Afterall we all know the GOV is incompetent and inefficient. What i was talking about was the corptocracy of this fine country. Afterall, they are the ones pulling the strings on the governemnt anyway. The bailout mess is a classic case. Corperations sucking trillions fro mthe tax payers out of what? Fear. Its a fucking scam, always has bene always will be.
 

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The reality is your getting what your government pays for. They want stupid people. They dont want you to understand economics. They dont want you to understand policy. They dont want you to be able to figure out what is going on. I mean its not rocket science here boys. And its not partisan. Not by a long shot. From your drinking water to JP Morgan buying WAMU to the difference between Obama and McCain, people on the whole are dumbed down. This isnt an accident. Stop acting so surprised.

The Topic reefered to "college students".

I'll submit that adult students are as smart as they want to be. Most any college or university, save for perhaps those funded by staunch fundamentalist religious folk, gives the inquiring student access to most any level of education which he will choose to acquire.
 
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Corporations are responsible for the dumbing down of America?!

Naw. Corporations want and need smart people to compete.

Government? Well I would say teacher's unions are partially responsible.

But the real responsibility goes right back to where all child rearing responsibilities should go - the home.

Good parenting develops educated, moral kids. Bad parenting gets you dumb downed assholes.

Simple.
 

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And if one truly feels that a government funded university or college education will result in one being "inept", then by all means get your advanced education via a private institution if that's your wont.
 

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Though of course the previously bleated concern that a government sponsored university will only provide an inept educational experience can be easily rebuked by simple observation of the literally tens of thousands of people who graduate from public universities every single year and enjoy enhanced business and personal lives as a byproduct of their time at said public university.
 

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I think it this report is exaggerated, several of the examples are actually correct:

“I was absent on Monday because I was stopped on the Beltway for erotic driving.” - Well, the girl got called over for driving without clothes on, what else could she have said?

• “The person was an innocent by standard, who just happened to be the victim of your friend’s careless responsibility.” - Doesn't the law say you are an innocent by standard until proven guilty?

• “Society has moved toward cereal killers.” - Seeing what many people eat for breakfast it's hard to argue with this.

• “Willie Loman put Biff on a petal stool.” - I'm an admirer of flower-painted furniture, too. ;-)

• “Another effect of smoking is it may give you cancer of the thought.” -This is exactly what Zit thinks about pot-smoking.

• “The children of lesbian couples receive as much neutering as those of other couples." - Even more, I'd guess.

• “Keith helps me to have good self-a-steam.” - Very nice of Keith, a good steam-cleaner can do wonders.

• “Jogging on a woman’s ovaries can be dangerous to her health.” - Obviously correct.

• “A very good thing for your health is the Arabic exercise.” - Why is this wrong? I, too, believe that the Arabic exercise is better than the Persian one.
 

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Corporations are responsible for the dumbing down of America?!

Naw. Corporations want and need smart people to compete.

Government? Well I would say teacher's unions are partially responsible.

But the real responsibility goes right back to where all child rearing responsibilities should go - the home.

Good parenting develops educated, moral kids. Bad parenting gets you dumb downed assholes.

Simple.

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As far as Corporations go, they fund everything. Through advertising, sponsorship, co ops. You name it, they own it. The large part of the population is to be dumbed down and stripped of the ability to think critically. The unions you rail about are part of the problem but the entire public school doctrine is one that strips individualism and rewards collectivism. And you think this is done by just Dems?? Think again. No Child left behind - an absolute page out of the communist manifesto. Man-dated testing for children’s attitudes and values is a fucking joke. The brightest of the bright are hand picked and placed in places of power and influence to keep the game going. Look at the Rhodes scholarship. Living proof of my point.

Corporations need smart people, but just smart enough to keep said game going. Not smart enough to question how and why the game is played the way it is. The act of business is control. Simple as that. The more control the better chance the business has of survival. Thus business and corporations take on a life of their own that puts human nature second. So where does that leave citizens? A number. Everything is segmented and divided and tracked. The more control a sector or business has the better, thus the hunger never ceases. Business is a necessary evil, because our evolution is thousands of years from truly being a harmonistic one unit. Collectivism is a fine idea on paper, but in reality its way for people on top to control the masses. We aren’t at that point yet, so we must expose it and fight it at all costs.
 

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