*~~~RUMOR of AI to the Heat~~~*

[Horseshoe]

Jeez, my adopted sports town since youth is not too smart sans Lurie regime, as it appears I will never relive the glory of the late 70s/early 80s again.

AI and Dalembert for that heap of garbage is a horrible trade.

My Phillies are again a non-factor in the Free Agent Pitching market, trade Floyd for old man Garcia, still have Burrell on roster, miss out on Lee and Soriano, and are letting the Mets and Dodgers sign every impact guy, this despite having one of MLB's best everyday lineups to recruit FAs to sign with them(albeit their bandbox is a negative)..

The Flyers are in the gutter and missed out on a Cup win after a stellar decade as a contender..

The Eagles may have let this roster's window of oppurtunity close with all their close call losses..

Temple is on the fade..

Thank God, Jay Wright has Nova a player in the BE and the national scene once again.

 

[JakeT.]

one of the funniest posts of all time. Somone has claimed they would rather have Andre Miller or Ray Allen over AI. Neither are young either. Which is the only argument I would use with half of the list. Personally I'd rather have AI over 5 or 6 of those guys, but the fact that you mentioned these two is hillarious. remind me to not give this guy any attention in anything NBA related


uppy:

AI scores alot but he shoots alot and doesn't have that great of a FG%. He steals passes alot but takes a ton of chances on defense to do it which leads to open shots for his opponents too often.

Allen is a great defender who can hit an open shot. Miller is a field general that has made every team he's played on better with his great looks.

Casual NBA fans like yourself love points but if you want to win, you need more than just a scorer.

 

[TKE683]

fit the Heat for Rings if that trade goes down.

 

[Horseshoe]

The Heat are still old and lacking at the Forward spots, even should they be able to pull this larceny off.

 

[JakeT.]

AI kinda reminds me of Alfonso Soriano in MLB.

Yea, he puts up nice stats but hurts his team with how he gets them.

Shooting 27% but scoring 44 doesn't help his team win.

Hitting alot of power shots but swinging at everything and rarely drawing a walk has lead to a ton of double plays and inning ending Ks for Soriano. His HRs are nice but he kills drives left and right.

Kind of the same thing... statistics don't tell the whole story.

 

[royboy_3831]

If AI is traded to a contending team with another superstar, I fully expect him to be unselfish and a great pg. He hasn't had that chance in Philly, EVER! Bottom line is the little guy can get into the paint whenever he wants and if he has Garnett or somebody like that to dish it to he will. Plus he is a great defender, something people tend to forget.

 

[JakeT.]

Plus he is a great defender, something people tend to forget.

Disagree 100%. He gets alot of steals but he takes far too many chances that lead to open shots for the opposition when he doesn't get his steal. He also can be backed down in the paint by a bigger guard. He's a stat machine but stats don't tell when he misses the steal and leaves an open shot...

 

[royboy_3831]

Disagree 100%. He gets alot of steals but he takes far too many chances that lead to open shots for the opposition when he doesn't get his steal. He also can be backed down in the paint by a bigger guard. He's a stat machine but stats don't tell when he misses the steal and leaves an open shot...

That's fine I disagree 100% with you...:toast:

 

[JakeT.]

That's fine I disagree 100% with you...:toast:

I disagree 110% with that comment. :bunnies:

 

[JakeT.]

Hey, I don't wanna sound like a queer or nothin', but I think unicorns are kick ass!

 

[Seymour]

There is no such thing as a great defender at 5-11 - you are one pick away from a total mismatch every play.

 

[MrCleo]

AI scores alot but he shoots alot and doesn't have that great of a FG%. He steals passes alot but takes a ton of chances on defense to do it which leads to open shots for his opponents too often.

Allen is a great defender who can hit an open shot. Miller is a field general that has made every team he's played on better with his great looks.

Casual NBA fans like yourself love points but if you want to win, you need more than just a scorer.

if you want to win??
what has Ray Allen won? How about Andre Miller?


Like I said, you just continue to prove people shouldn't refer to you and expect any NBA knowledge. last time I will address anything you say.

but I have to ask you have either of those players done anything significant in the playoffs or won anything? Iverson has led his team to division and conference championships. Set playoff records for the NBA and Franchise once he got there too.

Iverson just leads the league in points,steals, and minutes every year, no big deal. He also has done all he could with the makeshift team around him and still willed his team to the finals. He also set records in the playoffs He also averages 6 assists per game over his career to Ray Allen's 3.9




jake thompson knows the NBA....uppy:

 

[SCIBIG123]

There is no such thing as a great defender at 5-11 - you are one pick away from a total mismatch every play.

I agree with you 100%. AI has no choice but to play the way he does on defense.

And someone else mentioned he hasn't ever had the opportunity to play like he should as a point. I absolutely agree with this as well.

With the talent around him over the years, he's had no choice but to carry the load.

One thing that impresses me the most with AI that people don't see in the stats, is he is amongst the lead leaders every year at getting to the line.

At 5'11 170 that is astounding. The guy is fearless and plays hard every night. He has no choice but to with all of the disadvatages he has.

What AI does on the court considering his stature, he's a freak. That's one thing I can't say about Kobe, McGrady or Carter.

 

[SCIBIG123]

So name 10 guards I'd rather have over AI...

Kobe Bryant
Ray Allen
Chris Paul
Steve Nash
Chauncey Billups
Jason Kidd
Andre Miller
Joe Johnson
Ben Gordon
Dwayne Wade

I wouldn't take Nash unless I already have Lots of talent around him. What has he done in Big D? What has he done in Phoenix for that matter.

Ray Allen I don't agree with at all. He is a great shooter, that's about it. So was Steve Kerr.

Chris Paul I agree with because he's an up and coming star.

Billups same as Nash.

Kidd same as Nash.

Miller??? That's a joke right. Ha Ha

Kobe I agree

Wade I agree only because he's younger.

Joe Johnson same as Wade.

Ben Gordon. He's younger but I'll go on a limb and say he will never be AI, ever.


Right now taking the young out of it and already having good talent on the team I would take Kobe and Wade, maybe Joe Johnson.

 

[LivingOffGamblinMoney2]

Allen Iverson is done. I repeat DONE. That's why nobody wants him. He is a piece of shit. Pure genuine fake of all time. 30 ppg, heart from time to time but when push comes to shove, he whines and cant get along with anybody. The spotlight has to be on him. Iversonis the epitome of a streetballer. Which is exactly what a winning team doesnt need. ! Iverson wouldn't be worth trading for, especially not for a young team with potential. He doesn't deserve to win a ring, he doesn't even deserve the paycheck he's getting now, Iverson has proved what many kids need to learn today, you don't win alone, you have to make players around you better, and if you wish to succeed in life, you have to be a nice person! No, you can make a gabillion dollars being a jerk, but then don't cry like a baby when no one wants you around! Iverson may quickly learn that he isn't worth all that HE thinks he is and he better try and make a personal change before it is too late and he's sitting on the couch next to S.Kemp.:nono5:

 

[Seymour]

This post is fiiled with two types of people:

1) Kids who love streetball and highlights

b) Adults the understand team basketball

Everyone here understands that Iverson is insanely talented and gives 100%.

 

[royboy_3831]

This post is fiiled with two types of people:

1) Kids who love streetball and highlights

b) Adults the understand team basketball

Everyone here understands that Iverson is insanely talented and gives 100%.

So I guess everyone who disagrees with your opinion falls into category number 1??? Give me a break...

 

[Seymour]

Anyone who thinks - when a GM is putting together a team and can have any player in the league - that Allen Iverson is top 20 on the list falls into the first category.

 

[JakeT.]

if you want to win??
what has Ray Allen won? How about Andre Miller?


Like I said, you just continue to prove people shouldn't refer to you and expect any NBA knowledge. last time I will address anything you say.

but I have to ask you have either of those players done anything significant in the playoffs or won anything? Iverson has led his team to division and conference championships. Set playoff records for the NBA and Franchise once he got there too.

Iverson just leads the league in points,steals, and minutes every year, no big deal. He also has done all he could with the makeshift team around him and still willed his team to the finals. He also set records in the playoffs He also averages 6 assists per game over his career to Ray Allen's 3.9




jake thompson knows the NBA....uppy:

AI got to the playoffs a few times but that was when the East was as weak as it's ever been.

Allen has a great shot and is a great defender. You are not figuring in defense at all and I'm not just talking about stats which you love to base your argument on. Allen rarely gets beat... Iverson leaves the guy he's guarding open quite a bit because he goes all or nothing for the steal. Steals and the layup that come from it look great on the statsheet but the statsheet doesn't show when AI misses the ball and the other team gets an easy 2.

Iverson is a great penetrator but he shoots too many poor shots which hurt his team. He has been focusing on setting his teammates up lately but he's still taking the bad shots he always has. The guy is an average defender and an overrated scorer because he takes all the bad shots.

He's great in the stat department and he's a very good player but if he keeps playing his current style of reckless shooting and defense, he won't win anytime soon. I'd rather have a guard that plays under control, makes good decisions, and D's up without taking so many chances. Obviously Iverson on a team surrounded by no one will win more than Andre Miller surrounded by no one but if you get a team around them, Miller wins more games IMO.

Now stop with your insults... you are making yourself look bad.

Me = brown rabbit
You = tan rabbit

:bunnies:

 

[ClipJoint]

The scary thing is Iverson gets to the line as much as anyone in the league. He gets a bulk of his points there. But the scary part is those missed shots when he is fouled don't count against his shooting percentage. That "and 1's" count as makes. For him to still have such a bad shooting percentage shows just how ill-advised most of his shots are.