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Polygraphs are essentially useless, as the consensus here have stated.
 

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Fishhead said:
Polygraphs are essentially useless, as the consensus here have stated.

I don't know much about them but I always thought they were widely used and very accurate. Interesting, I will take your and Clip's word for it.
 

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Those tapes made it very clear this guy is a liar and placed the bets. That whole Canadian conspiracy theory/tape editing post by xpanda was the biggest stretch I have ever seen.

To be clear, I posted no such thing. The forensic analysts in that case are twenty minutes from my house and would have been hired had tapes been sent. That is why it was a topic: they have credentials. That is all.

That it was spun into a massive Canadian gov't conspiracy is the imagination of others, not my own.
 

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Please move this thread to the RR and do not let ken post and manipulate the mods by having a pawn post for him now when he wants to express himself. That is exactly what ken the bitch would have done . Let ken post this at his pos site
 

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David1 has lied about placing his wagers. We have now undeniable evidence.

This saga needed closure and in absence of the famous tapes Ken believed that a polygraph would have solved the case. I fully agreed with him since day one on this.

Royal Sports deserves my apology for having been suspected of having tampered with the tapes.

I believe everyone is now relieved. Royal, Players, posters, Watchdogs.

The fact that David1 had been slow paid by Royal Sports does not justify his lies and his actions.
 

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To be clear, I posted no such thing. The forensic analysts in that case are twenty minutes from my house and would have been used had tapes been sent. That is why it was a topic: they have credentials. That is all.

That it was spun into a massive Canadian gov't conspiracy is the imagination of others, not my own.

My apologies...I basically read the responses to your post and never really read the entire post. I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions or formed an opinion without reading it myself.

I was out of line.
 

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Eidited. Personally I a very glad to see the dispute get settled. In behalf of The Rx. I want to thank eveyone involved, and hope a lesson can be learned from this nearly month long negotiation. As far as Royal goes, I am truly sorry they were subjected to the amount of ridicule they endured (Tej or not).

I am very glad General Pete can now rest easier knowing the final result. Thanks to Shrink for going the distance to get at the truth, and admitting in the end he was wrong in believing the player.




Thanks, wil.

This is kind of ridiculous, with all the apologies going towards Royal and making it sound like they are a saintly book filled with honest angels and well meaning cherubs!!!!


ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDIN' ME?????

Forget about that one guy David and his claims for a second, feel free to totally dismiss that...


That does not change the fact that Royal is a shitty slow paying book that will resort to low down dirty scum tactics to ensure that they squeeze every last penny out of a player including refusing to pay him his money when he wants it...

THIS DISPUTE NEVER WOULD HAVE RISEN IF ROYAL HAD PAID THE GUY UP FRONT...

SLOW PAYING IS STILL FRIGGIN UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!

Royal has only been exonerated from one charge but the whole issue has exposed them for being a cheap ass operation from the word go...


And screw that shit about me being so much against Royal (i have never played there and dont intend to) but we cant let a book skate by with such taudry service that borders on out right thievery. I cant stand such books and i will always remain a big advocate for total avoidance of any such operation!!!!!!

REMEMBER FOLKS, WE HAVE TO TRUST THESE BOOKS WITH OUR MONEY!!!! THEY MUST BE HELD TO THE HIGHEST STANDARD!!!

so quit with all the prostrating and apologizing.....I can direct you to many forums right now where people are still complaining of royals illegal slow pay tactics!!!
 

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TOW said:
David1 has lied about placing his wagers. We have now undeniable evidence.

Sweet. Can we see it?

I don't think many people doubted that after hearing the tapes.
 
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But he also failed the FROG endorsed lieometer, which works in my kangaroo/FROG court. This guy was just a big of poison pill as the accuser's mother in the Jacko trial. The tapes were legit, and caught both him betting, and Royal slow paying. The polygraph was just an out and closure. For one, it actually lends more credibility to watchdogs when they rule against a player, deservedly so here, instead of for them in every case as Player's advocates. Although the player David will be vilified, the entire episode brought all of Royal's keep him here strategy centerstage. Ugly, but educational.

Best Wishes...OF:howdy:


Great job to all who ended this fiasco.
 

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Clip Joint said:
My apologies...I basically read the responses to your post and never really read the entire post. I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions or formed an opinion without reading it myself.

I was out of line.

Thank you. No harm, no foul.
 

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Dogball give it a rest, the man cannot post here. Good nick but a better one would have been noballs.

Roberto, you owe a lot more people than Royal an apology. You owe Royals customer DB database an apology for sending out that email. You owe myslef and MW mods an apology, you owe Ken and Pete and apology, you owe all the readers of all these forums an apology. I have never seen a man post so much complete and utter bullshit.

You knew damn well that those tapes were real and it was his voice.
 

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Royal still is a POS and does not deserves an apology.

They slow play players and they do whatever it takes to make sure you keep you money in there account. They are also run by crooks.
 

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Clip Joint said:
Journey...you are getting pretty salty in your old age! I love you man!

:lolBIG:


A lot of B.S. and harm done because of this bogus issue...yeah, it figures...

I think anyone following this without an agenda would have leaned to this being the end result...

Unreal :sad3:
 

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A lot of B.S. and harm done because of this bogus issue...yeah, it figures...

I think anyone following this without an agenda would have leaned to this being the end result...

Unreal :sad3:

While I agree with everything you said, I just hope these facts don't get lost in all of this garbage:

#1- Tej is a crook and STIFFED all of his players at Pyramid.
#2- Royal slow paid this player and has slow paid many others.

This guy was a sleeze ball...there is no doubt about that. But the fact remains, Royal is trash.
 

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I agree Clipper...

I would rather have a total stranger in a bar take my action, then send Royal a dime.....
 

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I love this industry with a passion!

Having stated that, it is sad when one can only trust appoximently 50% of the individuals on either side of the counter in this business because they are either scammers, agenda ridden, theives, or are individauls that couldn't really give a damn about their fellow gambler.

This case was proff positive of that to this observer, much like many others have been in the past.

-Fish-
 
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Journeyman said:
A lot of B.S. and harm done because of this bogus issue...yeah, it figures...

I think anyone following this without an agenda would have leaned to this being the end result...

Unreal :sad3:

J-man, could you possibly assign me an agenda. I feel left out not having one. Like I do not belong. I think I did a little more than lean in this one. For once the RX came out smelling the roses by watching it all unfold. The SHRINK, The General and all others invested a ton of time, and effort for nothing. My props to them, for trying to do what was right. False accusers have to be believed at first, as they may not be false. Brutal case in all aspects. But it renewed my faith in the process. This one will be remembered for sometime. Again, thanks to all involved, although your efforts were dedicated towards a liar, I appreciate them just the same.

Best Wishes...OF:howdy:
 

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no comment Frog...I am sorry this guy ever made it to the dispute table that is all.....a lot of underlying BS went down for this POS ...
 

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