Roulette Formulas Guarenteed to BREAK the House

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Tater,

I can now tell you exactly what is wrong with the first formula you lifted. There are other sequences besides 4 straight losses which put a big dent in your bankroll if you extrapolate the suggested progression.

I calculated chip ratios for other situations such that 2 successive wins at the same bet level would bring you back to +1 or +2 chips for the short sequence. 74/36 is incorrect because all of these rations should be 1.5/1.

Ratio Win/Lose this spin cumulative spins
3/2 lose -5 -5
9/6 win +3 -2
9/6 lose -15 -17
27/18 win +9 -8
27/18 lose -45 -53
81/54 lose -135 -188

3/2 lose -5 -5
9/6 win +3 -2
9/6 lose -15 -17
27/18 lose -45 -53
96/64 lose -160 -222

3/2 lose -5 -5
9/6 win +3 -2
9/6 lose -15 -17
27/18 lose -45 -62
96/64 win +32 -30
96/64 lose -160 -190

There are other such sequences but you get the idea.

The system looked so good because these possible sequences, which also produce "wipe-outs" in the $200 range were not factored in.

Now in a short series of spins like 1000, you may not encounter any of these additional negative runs. Or you may encounter several. I only have 15,000 spins to work with, and the average of these additional negative sequences in the $200 range is about 2 per 1000 spins.

Also, the statement "In an average 1,000 spins you should win $630 ($1000 minus 2 times losses of $185 each) is incorrect. You have many short sequences where the net at the end of a series of spins is only +1 chip. If it takes 5 spins to earn one $1.00 chip, you are not playing for $1.00 each spin. You would only get $630 if there were no spins for losses other than the two series of 4-straight losses per 1000 spins.

I suspect the above two additional considerations will probably reduce the advantage to the theoretical -5.28%.

But thanks for posting that formula. It was fun to work it out, and who knows...

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Tate, years ago I sat at a wheel and discovered that the dealer was enjoying herself by deliberately launching the ball over the same number each time, and that her "toss" was consistent enough that she did indeed land it in one section of the wheel more often than not. I made some money that night. But I don't play much roulette and I can't recall ever seeing anyone else who was consistent enough to bet on in that manner. But I'm sure they do exist.. somewhere. And of course they go off shift every 40 minutes or so, so you'd better score fast if you do find one. Or follow him/her around all night. That would look suspicious, wouldn't it?
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CRUM,,,,

(where are those spins from? yours perrsonal or from a site?)

You are 100% right!! you are exactly right,,,, those other situations are VERY likely,,, to be honest,,, I couldnt ImaginePlaying ANY system fro more than 10-20 minutes MAXIMUM,,,, 5-10 spins,,,,
I gotta tell ya,,, I t seems I can make ANY formula work for 5-10 spins,,, so that has Become a HUGE portion as to how I play,,,,

Weasel,,, you are right about the timing thing,,,, that is very difficult but one has to ask themself,, How long would it take YOU to Master a wheel,,,,2 months ,,, 3 months??? 6 months??/
thinking of myself,,,I would think I would see patterns develope rather quickly,,,, they do have rules restricting them from looking at the wheel as they spin,,,,
can they do it without getting into trouble? sure,,,,, can they look at a wheel for their entire RUN and let someone win a couple Gs???? NO WAY!!...

I guess that is my point with a few of the Rules,,, 1 person on a table Other than you,,,(or none) ,,,, ability to keep wheel medium speed, and consistant,,,,
and YOU to chart the Release spot,,,,,,
I have worked with a progression with "my" system,,,,,
chart for 5-8 spins

1 dollar on 5 spots,,,,(plus his tip,,,)
then depending on his ABILITY,,,
3 dollars on 5 spots increasing
after each win,,, using the PERCEIVED winnings to play ,,,

good luck to all,,,
 

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Tate,

I have a book called "Roulette System Tester" by Erick St. Germain which contains the 15,000 spins (actually groups of 980). Available for $24.95 from Gamblers Book Club in Las Vegas (they have a website but I don't have the URL).

The spins are from an American wheel, but I just
ignored the "00" spins in doing my calculations because I wanted to see if even a European wheel was beatable by your formula. Appears not.

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Hi crum,,,
thank you,,,, I do take Roulette quite seriously,,, and would like to chat more indepth,,, I know I can learn from you,,,, and I hope i can help you too,,,
but "MY formula" is not testable by any recorded numbers,,,,,
the other 2 formulas can be ,,,,,,, I am working on another formula too,,,, its a black red formula,,,,,
its actually quite lame,,,, but who knows,,,,,
I will clue you in when I have a path,,,,,

my Email is
tatehill2000@lycos.com
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