Rougned Odor throwing Heat ...

[Willie99]

And there are three major differences in my opinion between those two slides:
1) While Bautista went in hard, he went right across the bag, in that video of Odor taking out Giavotella, he slides passed the bag on the left side. I know that this doesn't make a difference in the rule book, but there is just no reason, why a runner should slide on either side of the bag on a feet first slide. Only reason for this is taking out a defender...
2) When Odor slid, he went in leg extended and leading with his spikes. That style, esp. when passed the bag, is dirty and if no intent to injure, you at least don't care about it. Bautista, even though sliding hard, slid in a way that he was pretty much leading with his knees, feet under his ass showing towards 1st base, taking his spikes out of any possible contact.
3) Bautista aims clearly for Odors right leg. Since Odor is a right hander, that is NOT his plant leg, it doesn't carry all his body's weight, isn't immobilized because of this and therefore it's far less likely for an injury (like the ones Tejada or Kang suffered) to happen. Odors slide on the other hand aims for Giavotella's front leg, severe injury waiting to happen...

While Bautistas slide is an illegal one according to the current rules because he ended up not maintaining contact to the base, it was in no way dirty in my book. He even startet his slide about 6ft before the back, his knees more or less making contact about 3ft before the bag. And while he certainly tried to make contact with Odor, like I stated above he made it going over the bag, not passed, and doing it in a "fair" way, not spiking him or going after his exposed front leg.
It's just rather bad technique by Odor to catch & stop right over the bag, he had the chance to continue over the bag towards the infield, tougher throw but by going across the bag, at least Bautista gave him that chance. I understand that a hard slide still isn't something an infielder will be thrilled about, but total overreaction and bush league move by Odor.

Since that Spokane incident played out pretty much exactly the same, push and immediate follow-up punch, I'd fully expect them to hand out a lengthy suspension because obviously he didn't get the message the last time, has some issues about controlling his emotions and was completely out of control. Considering that they are more concerned about domestic violence/violent behavior/player conduct off the field nowadays, him getting away lightly for that on the field would just send a wrong message.

I concur

and Odor landed a sucker punch, he's lucky Bautista was restrained

Odor is going to be suspended big time

 

[TheFalls]

In an instant, Odor elevated himself to George Teague legendary status in the metroplex sports world history.

 

[Bourn]

In an instant, Odor elevated himself to George Teague legendary status in the metroplex sports world history.

Im buying an Odor T-shirt

 

[Enfuego]

I concur

and Odor landed a sucker punch, he's lucky Bautista was restrained

Odor is going to be suspended big time

Sucker punch? They were facing each other as Bautista walked towards Odor. There was no sucker punch about that haymaker.

 

[NewYorkKnight]

To some it could be looked at as a sucker punch ... true they were facing each other but not very many guys are expecting to get punched in the face during a game.

Just my opinion.

 

[ML Dog]

 

[ML Dog]

 

[ML Dog]

"First Take" with SHANNON SHARPE sitting in for Steven A. I realize many do not like First Take but this includes Post-Game reactions of Mangers, Jose and franky some humorous commentary on the situation, especially at the beginning.

 

[Bourn]

Looks like Odor knows the first rule in a fight. Hit first.

 

[NewYorkKnight]

^^^

Then backpedal

 

[ML Dog]

Looks like Odor knows the first rule in a fight. Hit first.

Yeah Rougned don't play. Seems like I heard Rougned's Brother's name is Rougned. Something like that. Like, the family has 2 boy kids both named Rougned.

 

[ML Dog]

^^^

Then backpedal

Rogned's nimbleness on the backpedal very impressive. Good on his feet, very agile.

 

[NewYorkKnight]

Float like a butterfly ... sting like a bee

 

[ML Dog]

Float like a butterfly ... sting like a bee

The Very Definition.

scrappy little fucker.

 

[Bourn]

Yeah Rougned don't play. Seems like I heard Rougned's Brother's name is Rougned. Something like that. Like, the family has 2 boy kids both named Rougned.

I bet that was confusing growing up.

 

[Enfuego]

To some it could be looked at as a sucker punch ... true they were facing each other but not very many guys are expecting to get punched in the face during a game.

Just my opinion.

I mean, two guys approach each other chest-to-chest yelling at each other. What comes next?

 

[texansfan]

Odor is a hypocrite.

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[Soriano12]

I mean, two guys approach each other chest-to-chest yelling at each other. What comes next?

Well, since we are on a baseball field, the answer usually would be lots of yelling, shoving and posturing and maybe some ejections. You get players getting into each others faces on a rather regular bases in the NBA, NFL, MLB, soccer or several other sports and the behavior is kind of "accepted". Punching other guys into the face on the other hand is usually not part of that equation, unless it is hockey or boxing/MMA. We are still talking about some sports competition, not some pub altercation or backstreet brawl...

 

[Willie99]

Sucker punch? They were facing each other as Bautista walked towards Odor. There was no sucker punch about that haymaker.

big time sucker punch, evidently from the king of cheap shots too

baseball players yell at each other all the time, rarely do you see that kind of punch and it's totally obvious Bautista wasn't expecting it

you'll see when the one sided and hard discipline comes down

 

[Willie99]

well, since we are on a baseball field, the answer usually would be lots of yelling, shoving and posturing and maybe some ejections. You get players getting into each others faces on a rather regular bases in the nba, nfl, mlb, soccer or several other sports and the behavior is kind of "accepted". Punching other guys into the face on the other hand is usually not part of that equation, unless it is hockey or boxing/mma. We are still talking about some sports competition, not some pub altercation or backstreet brawl...

qft