ROBBED BY SBG GLOBAL

Wow Dogball.

I can't believe you don't check your tickets.

I always do. I have seen me pick wrong sides, wrong amounts. I have seen the book do line changes from the price I thought I made the bet at.

I would strongly suggest you check your tickets...

 

Peep- I am sure that is good advice. None the less, Any book I play at , when I make an online bet- which is unusual, if the odds change, the bet is not accepted. If it is a call in, unless they announce a change on the game, if they read me back a different line, they honor the original line. Has happened many times.
In this case, we do not know what the original ticket said, but I do not think the player should have the responsibility of knowing house internal rules, which is the stated reason for not honoring full payout. I make phone wagers almost exclusively to avoid these problems and like the tape record. This guy has a serious beef from my pov.

 

I KNOW SIA will give you diferent odds than posted without warning. You don't read your confirmation, you are toast.

Most of my other books will do a "attention, the line has changed" message. But I am not sure all do.

 

[Zamunda]

Dogball-

I agree with what you have stated. This is an outrage and a farce. "Internal" rules can constitute anything that the house deems appropriate. There are no such thing as "internal rules" thus making the claim that "internal rules" limit the maximum amount on a parlay hogwash. I would like to clarify. There maybe "internal rules" that exist. But this is not one of them. "Internal rules" may be placed to protect both the player and the book. The way SBG has implemented this set of "internal rules" is none other that deceptive, stealing, devious and fraudulent.

SBG- You guys are a bunch of crooks and fu(kups!

BTW-Dogball may I ask you a personal question?

 

Zamunda-
by all means, shoot..

 

[Zamunda]

I would like to place this disclaimer at the top of my message for you to read Mr. Dogball. My question has nothing to do with you nor your integrity or standing in the world/community etc... Please don't take this the wrong way. And if you do I apologize in advance.--With that said--

Since you were entrusted with the intricate details of the Journeyman flyer business opportunity could you please enlighten the peanut gallery with some of the points in his plan. Since Mr. Journeyman has listed your name publicly on this forum as a man who is trusted and with whom he has divulged his business plan, I see no harm in why expounding just a couple of his points would hurt?

Thanks I've been anxiously awaiting the details and you're the only who can fill in the blanks.

 

Zamunda-
Please drop the Mr. Also, you know a lot about Jman and the site doings for a guy who just signed up. Just curious, could you divulge if you had a former posting character here, thanks.

As for the Jman info, I must respectfully decline to discuss that. I had noted a few points here in the RR but J man and I spoke and he noted that he wanted it private. I to had assumed since he mentioned my name It was ok to elaborate. I must respect jmans wishes as I would yours if you entrusted me with private information. Unless it was a matter of rx security, his secrets will remain that with me.

BTW- My opinion on the business was that it was legitimate. Since it was noted here once a few people called my attention to serious problems in that industry, but not related to the company Jman referred to. That is part and parcel of many industrys so I really do not know. As for Jman, he is a friend to me, never has treated me anything but fairly. I think he losses it once every 1000 posts or so, but could be a good entertainer here if he could check himself in those situations. If he can rehabilitate his image now, which would take considerable investment of his time, it would be a monumental achievement. Never know. If I were in his shoes, I would let the facts speak for themself in relation to this flyer scandal, meaning I would reveal all the details, but there are legitimate reasons for him to refrain from soing so. Essentially it could give all Jman detractors more info then the need about his personal life I suppose. Hope that helps a bit and best of luck to you.

 

[Zamunda]

Dogball-

Thanks for your response and the time taken with you reply. I'm glad that you did not take my inquisition as a "clown" on your character. However; this whole situation just reminds me of courtroom scenarios. You know when the defendant invokes his/her right to utilize the 5th amendment. When someone is 100% innocent and has nothing to hide why would one not take the stand and clarify the situation in his/her own words. Anytime (clarification 99.9% of the time) someone invokes the 5th they are hiding something. Prime example Orenthal James Simpson. By not coming out with the details and invoking the 5th as Journeyman has done indicates something not too "kosher" in the flyer bizz. Never known a defendant who is unwilling to clear his name by telling the truth. UNLESS the truth is not all that it is cracked up to be. Anyway, thanks again for your time taken with this messy subject. I did not mean to get you involved with a sore subject.

As to my identity. Since you live in the Tri-state area, i'm sure you hear me everyday on 92.3 WXRK between 6 a.m. and 11 a.m.

Good luck and stay away from SBG. What a bunch of crooks.

 

[lakerfan]

Several books will change the terms on the final confirmation page rather than reject the bet if the line changes. I don't like it but some do. Most also highlight this change by putting it in bold and red, but some do not.

Canbet changes it but highlights in red.

Carib's new software doesn't highlight the change at all from my limited experience with them since the software change.

Without a doubt this is a reason to stay clear of SBG (but anyone who goes right to these forums to post about a problem should have already know that SBG sucked). The title of the thread is not accurate.

I don't know how many times people bitch about books not putting in software that is reflective of their policy. SBG at least did that.

Stay away from SBG and NASA books.

 

SUCKER...Stay away from shit books. Can anyone hear me?

 

Chuck:

We again agree.

Why these fools bet with shit books is beyond comprehension, and certainly my compassion to feel sorry for them.

 

[VG789]

This guy was robbed,although I always check my tickets this shit just wasn't right.
Some bookies will even give you extra ca$h % when winning on parlays.

Personally I ve quit betting on non Australian bookies and some very-very large ones from England.All others just sux,they ll steal money from you,they ll scam you,they ll trick you,they ll pay you slowly,tired of that shit!

 

[SPIVE]

PARLAY CALCULATOR

Check for yourself:

Team 1. 170
Team 2. -105
Team 3. 240

$712.00 bet, calculates to a NET win amount of $12,049.074


Note: One cannot hold another responsible for rules, terms or conditions, which are unknown and/or not agreed to.


It is well known here that SBG Global is a criminal outfit...how they can continue to victimize others with their fraudulent practices is the real the crime.


How can it be stopped is the question.

 

[SPIVE]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> SUCKER...Stay away from shit books. Can anyone hear me? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> -Chuck Sims


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Chuck:

We again agree.

Why these fools bet with shit books is beyond comprehension, and certainly my compassion to feel sorry for them. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> -Joey C



Completely DISAGREE...


One should not scorn the victim but prosecute the perpetrator.


Your methodology of prevention is like attempting to prevent crime by incarcerating all those who are victimized by it.


Is it not better to eliminate the known criminal, rather then ask how/why there became another victim?

 

Spive, I have been posting for over a year that SBG Global is a crooked outfit. I said it before the "Shrink" was robbed by them. SBG has been slammed as a shit book for over a year. How can I feel sorry if people don't heed the warning? Let the word go forth, if you have a sportsbook account with SBG Global you are asking, no begging to be robbed.

 

[SPIVE]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Spive, I have been posting for over a year that SBG Global is a crooked outfit. I said it before the "Shrink" was robbed by them. SBG has been slammed as a shit book for over a year. How can I feel sorry if people don't heed the warning? Let the word go forth, if you have a sportsbook account with SBG Global you are asking, no begging to be robbed. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Don't deny that YOU, as well as others, have been warning players for over a year...however, when players are still being robbed this is an indication that YOUR WARNINGS are not effective in preventing players from being robbed (agreed?).

Thus, the real resolution to this issue would be in actions, which effectively eliminate the perpetrator (SBG Global) from robbing others in the future...

...meaning merely WARNING others that there is a thief doesn't prevent future crimes by such thief...removing the ability of the thief to continue his criminal ways does.

Therefore, Mr. Sims your suggestions on how to prevent SBG Global from continuing such criminal acts would be a step in correcting these issues from re-occurring...rather then scrutinizing the ignorance of victimized players, which never will solve the real problem.

Hoping you have a better understanding.

 

[truthteller]

I think I will change my tag line.

"Stay away from books located in turd world countries. Bet only with Aussie books."

 

[Philly007]

SBG does not care that they are ripping off parlay players! All I am asking now is that they pay me on the two teamer with the two dogs that I played, which would have payed more than the three teamer that I placed! How insane is that? A two teamer paying more than a three teamer!! I was not aware of this internal rule from day one! Step up SBG and Pay me the 2 dimes I deserve!

 

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Robbed by SBG Too!:
SBG does not care that they are ripping off parlay players! All I am asking now is that they pay me on the two teamer with the two dogs that I played, which would have payed more than the three teamer that I placed! How insane is that? A two teamer paying more than a three teamer!! I was not aware of this internal rule from day one! Step up SBG and Pay me the 2 dimes I deserve!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hehe..you didn't know that SBG is a stiff operation??

 

[THERECORDKEEPER2]

I just went to the SBG GLOBAL site and used the one on one chat with tech support,I told them I was interested in possibly joining their service and had a few questions,the following is a transcript of what transpired:


Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'SBG Global'
SBG Global: Welcome to SBG online Tech.Support.
SBG Global: How may I help you?
you: Hi ,I am thinking of joining your service ,and I ahve a question about paylays ,what does a 2-team parlay in basketball pay both teams at odds of -110,also what is the maximum a 3 team baseball parlay will pay out?
you: Thank You
SBG Global: 2t parlay pays 5/13
SBG Global: so, risk 100 to win 260
SBG Global: on 3T parlay in baseball the most it pays is 6/1
you: okay so regardless of the odds (say you bet 3 large underdogs) you are still going to get at most 6-1 on the parlay?I only ask this because as of right now I am playing with OLYMPIC(but I don't like their lines),however when I typed in a 3 team parlay using 3 underdogs the payback DID go according to the LINES on the 3 teams.
SBG Global: yes, from 3T parlay and up we give the standar pay out
you: Thank You so much for your information ,i will be in touch if I decide to sign on.

Take the above with a grain of salt as SBG may have been well prepared for this type of questioning!