Republicans grow a pair

[Willie99]

Reject Democratic bailout of Detroit, propose alternative that

"Among other things, the alternate plan offered by Mr. Corker calls for giving the holders of bonds issued by the auto companies 30 cents on the dollar to ease the companies’ debt burden; immediately bringing workers’ wages in line with foreign companies like Nissan and Volkswagen; and forcing the United Automobile Workers to eliminate payments to workers after their jobs have been eliminated."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/12/business/12auto.html?hp



somebody as to get tough

 

[tiznow]

"democratic"

tell that to liberal dubya showing his true colors as exits

he's in charge of trying to get some GOP on his side to get it done

not officially toast yet but looks pretty dead at this point

very surprised personally

 

[Willie99]

tell that to dubya

he's in charge of trying to get some GOP on his side to get it done

not officially toast yet

and honestly very surprised

When it comes to spending, W and the base parted ways a long time ago

"Democratic", is there any doubt? the Congressional votes are along party lines. One man doesn't change that my friend

 

[tiznow]

When it comes to spending, W and the base parted ways a long time ago

okay mr. bush boomer :nohead:

by the way larry kudlow the "conservative" economist that's on CNBS wrote the forward to the little book in your avatar

 

[Willie99]

still misrepresenting the truth

 

[tiznow]

what truth is that?

you were fully supporting dubya and his policies with all the bush boom threads till the economy fell apart

now that shit hitting the fan you saying we need to cut spending blah, blah, blah.....applauding the GOP for standing up finally when they had full control of congress and did nothing on the cutting spending front......and at this moment in time cutting government spending would be a disaster for the economy near term.....as private sector spending is going in the gutter....and will only retract even further if GM has to file chapter 11 and the liberal dubya/dem bailout fails

i mean what's happening now has been building for a long ass time

but bush didn't help matters either with his liberal policies that were rooted on by you

 

[Willie99]

tizdoom, I amazed that you haven't caught onto a few simple truths yet.

1) that I don't believe that the POTUS controls the economy

2) that I pointed out right at the beginning of the Bush Boom threads that I was merely pointing out economic facts about a 6 year growth that rile the haters that do believe the POTUS controls the economy

3) that I have always maintained Bush spent too much

I really thought you had better comprehension, sorry

My positions have never changed, but I'm beginning to think you are really a one man waves the magic wand type of guy

 

[tiznow]

where were all you fiscal conservatives at a time our economy was doing well not yelling at dubya and company to find a way to cut spending to get our deficits in check for the time the storm clouds inevitably come and we hit a recession

government deficit skyrocketed on dubya's watch

all you guys did was cheer on the war on terror and tax cuts and zero cuts in spending partially creating this fiscal disaster

now we got a humongous debt burden on the government side while private sector spending is collapsing

so our back is against the wall and any hopes of getting anywhere near a balanced budget are now thrown out the window till the recession/depression passes

 

[Willie99]

gee tizdoom, you were talking about the deficit in a different tone yesterday

you also said government couldn't cut spending without creating a depression

tizmovingtargetdoom

 

[tiznow]

right now yes

i'm talking about in the past when the economy was doing well

we just continued to spend more, cut taxes, and wage wars

long term that's a receipe for disaster

also as far as what i said referring to current situation

i'm with you cut spending and become fiscal conservatives and people will have to learn a hard lesson in debt and fiscal conservatism by going through a depression

i'm just saying government ain't gonna do that cause the economy will get really really bad and the chances of social unrest and their crooked asses being thrown outta office go up

today government reported that americans reduced their debt in the first time in history going back to 1952 when they started taking the data

long term this is a good trend and necessary

near term just means things gonna get worse