Report: Saints are firing defensive coordinator Rob Ryan

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When Kirk Cousins rings up 40+ on you, this tends to happen


The New Orleans Saints are firing embattled Defensive Coordinator Rob Ryan, according to Tweets and a story posted to Profootball Talk.
The firing comes after a dismal defensive performance by the Saints in a 47-14 loss to the Washington Redskins


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He's not good at his job and any team that hires him in the same role would not be serious about winning.
 

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Kirk Cousins just screamed at me asking "You like that!"


I said "hell yes!"

Although I don't blame all the problems on him.
 

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Rob Ryan is a great defensive mind but his system is complicated .

In this day and age of injuries every week you need a simple system you can teach fill ins quickly .

When all players are on the field they have been respectable . But with injuries and grabbing players off other teams practice squads these players can't grasp the complicated scheme .


Rob Ryan is not an idiot.
The problem is he is almost too smart .

Its almost like a college professor teaching a bunch of 1st graders advanced calculus.
 

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Rob Ryan is not a good defensive coach.

"The Saints began the day with the league’s 31st-ranked defense and surrendered 514 yards to the Redskins –394 of them in the first half alone. "


Rob Ryan is not a good defensive coach

Two weeks ago Eli Manning had six touchdowns and no interceptions against the Saints. Last week Marcus Mariota had four touchdowns and no interceptions against the Saints. The Saints are the first defense in NFL history to allow four touchdowns and record no interceptions in three consecutive games"

Rob Ryan has been a defensive coordinator in Oakland, Cleveland, Dallas and now New Orleans, and those defenses have never been particularly good."

 

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I know all the numbers.
I said he was a great defensive mind.
That is not the same thing as saying he is a great defensive coach.
2 different things.
He is not an idiot.
He knows more about defense then most.

There are some great defensive coordinators out there that know less about defense then Rob Ryan.
 
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Why do the cameras always focus on Ryan so much? The primary reason I'm glad to see him gone is so that I don't have look at him every 5 minutes just to see how he's reacting to how his defense is performing.
 

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you have an interesting take on things my friend

I'm going to suggest that if the players can't execute his system, he's not a very good coach

reminds me of the three miserable years of UConn football under Paul Pasqouloni, He implemented a "zone blocking scheme", and brought in the "guy who wrote the book" on zone blocking schemes. He turned the strength of our team, the OL, into mush. We couldn't pass block and we couldn't run the ball. His defenders kept saying the system will work once the kids understand it.

When he was fired, our AD, a former OL @ MI, said "I want to see our offensive line hit somebody". That sir, is all you need to know about complex schemes. IMHO
 

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you have an interesting take on things my friend

I'm going to suggest that if the players can't execute his system, he's not a very good coach

reminds me of the three miserable years of UConn football under Paul Pasqouloni, He implemented a "zone blocking scheme", and brought in the "guy who wrote the book" on zone blocking schemes. He turned the strength of our team, the OL, into mush. We couldn't pass block and we couldn't run the ball. His defenders kept saying the system will work once the kids understand it.

When he was fired, our AD, a former OL @ MI, said "I want to see our offensive line hit somebody". That sir, is all you need to know about complex schemes. IMHO

Thats what I'm saying.
He is almost too smart for his own good.

People that are not close to the situation just assume he is an idiot that does not know anything about defense.
The truth is he is way over his students heads to the point where it brings a negative result.

Im not saying he is a great coach I'm just saying he has a brilliant mind and knows his D.

He could write a more indepth book on defense theory then Wade Phillips could ever dream of writing .

If he gets another chance he needs to realize you don't always have to have the most advanced scheme to have success.
If you are bogging down your unit with heavy game plans that's so deep that the players are spending too much time thinking about assignments it don't matter how sound the game plan is on paper.

These players are not robots.


Rob Ryan would have been a good coordinator back in the day before all these injuries ,practice restrictions, and free agency.

Im this day and age of revolving door lineups , injuries , and restricted practice schedules he will never have enough time to implement his deep schemes.


Im not saying he is a good coordinator .
Im just saying he is not good for a different reason then most people say.


Sometimes you just need a guy to tell the players to go play football.
 

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Ace is pretty much saying he is bad because he is an idiot that don't know anything about football.

This is not the case.

Its the opposite.

The truth is he is too smart for the congregation .

He is so above the intelligence of the people around him it brings a negative result
 

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There's no group I despise more in sports than the Ryan "clan", starting w/loud mouth Buddy, then the 2 idiot sons. The day they're all out of FB can't come too soon!! BTW the guys on the 85 Bears would have been great w/Mickey M coaching. Wish Ditka had punched his lights out.
 

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Sean Payton said Rob Ryan is still on staff despite speculation that is out there. Didn't rule it out but said subject hasn't even been broached yet. Said he would sit down with GM Mickey Loomis and discuss something like that at length, which hasn't happened yet. ... Said all changes will be considered though. Can't continue doing what they've been doing.

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Fired :think2:
 

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Yes he's fired.

He will make it official later after he talks to Loomis.
There are going to be other coaches fired along with Ryan so they want to get it all done with one press conference
 

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fictitious thread......Not FIRED.Slapping-silly90))

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Fib Thread Shush()*:):)
 

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Ace is pretty much saying he is bad because he is an idiot that don't know anything about football.

This is not the case.

Its the opposite.

The truth is he is too smart for the congregation .

He is so above the intelligence of the people around him it brings a negative result

I'm not sure where I said anything that would indicate he is an "idiot"

He is not a good football coach. Period. His track record demonstrates this to be true. I'm also not sure where you get the idea he is some misunderstood genius with this great scheme that is just above everyone's head. Nothing he has ever done or said would make that a reasonable conclusion.
 

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