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Coming from a Red Sox fan this team stinks... When they get great starting pitching their bullpen blows games. When They score a ton of runs their starters get rocked.. When their pitchers pitch their ass off, the hitters take the night off.. Same thing tonight... bullpen blows....
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This beat was just as good as last nights Texas win....

I thought for sure it was over with 1 out in the 9th nobody on...

FOULKE gives up 2 BACK TO BACK JACKS...

and then they bring in the Curtis lesSKANK idiot to finish the game...

Whenever he comes into the game...count your play as a loss.
 

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They had no bullpen and a lot of finger pointing last year going into the playoffs. They lost two in Oaktown and it really reached a fever pitch. Then they figured out how to play and almost got to the Series. This stuff right now means little, they are still in the Wildcard hunt and if they get to the playoffs will be a tough team to deal with again. Any team that starts Pedro and Schilling will be a tough team to beat. If Lowe could ever figure it out they will be devastating.
 

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It's amazing how often a team down 2 gets a solo shot (which is worth little more than a walk) and rallies right after it.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WildBill:
They had no bullpen and a lot of finger pointing last year going into the playoffs. They lost two in Oaktown and it really reached a fever pitch. Then they figured out how to play and almost got to the Series. This stuff right now means little, they are still in the Wildcard hunt and if they get to the playoffs will be a tough team to deal with again. Any team that starts Pedro and Schilling will be a tough team to beat. If Lowe could ever figure it out they will be devastating.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Think they would be better to put Lowe back as the closer, and use Schilling, martinez,Arroyo, and Wakefield, and find someone to fill in as 5th starter.....

couldnt hurt...
 

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Not sure if it can be helped but the real problem with the Sox is defense. The first two runs scored by Seattle tonight should never have happened. As much as I hate to say it I don't see any solution, their infield (especially when Pokey sits) is atrocious. Catching medicre at best, and but for Damon the outfield may be the worst in baseball defensively. Blame the pen if you want, the real problem is this team cannot catch the ball, plain and simple. Station to station offense is problem #2.


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They got 3 closers or something like that, doubt they will add a fourth! I don't see any chance Arroyo makes the starting rotation unless injuries force them. I just don't have a clue what the GM is thinking, lots of good pitchers that can take the #3 or #4 role out there and he trades for none of them. Oh well, what team wants to face a rotation of Pedro/Curt/Tim and maybe Derek?
 

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WB in case you may have missed it Arroyo has been lights out lately, including tonight. Pitching 7 full, allowing 3 hits and 1 run with 12 Ks and 2 walks. He blinded the Rangers last friday going 8 shutout innings in Texas,

Arroyo stats

He is in the rotation for good no matter who the Sox pick-up. Compared to Lowe and even Wakefield he has been very impressive over his last 7 starts.


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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WildBill:
They got 3 closers or something like that, doubt they will add a fourth! I don't see any chance Arroyo makes the starting rotation unless injuries force them. I just don't have a clue what the GM is thinking, lots of good pitchers that can take the #3 or #4 role out there and he trades for none of them. Oh well, what team wants to face a rotation of Pedro/Curt/Tim and maybe Derek?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Arrooyo has been starting most of the season, and pitched well again tonight...

They may have 3 closers, but none are any good....thats the problem...Lowe was excellent as a closer...Maybe like a Gagne, cant be effective as a starter, but strong as a closer
 

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They don't stand a chance against the yankees in the playoffs that if the sox make the playoffs.
 

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I don't see the Yanks winning it unless they buy RJ and/or Benson.

Their pitching is a mess with the injuries to Brown and Moose.

El Duque and Contreras are simply not reliable. The pen has been great with Q,Flash and Mo, but they keep that Felix Heredia loser around for no apparent reason ...

he hasn't gotten a big out in months.
 

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An alert Curt Schilling on the Red Sox bench got Ramirez a walk to lead off the fourth, and the outfielder wound up scoring the game's first run.

With the count on the scoreboard 3-2, Schilling yelled from the dugout that Ramirez had four balls instead of three, and manager Terry Francona went onto the field to talk to plate umpire C.B. Bucknor.

Bucknor and the three umpires talked it over and crew chief Chuck Meriwether called the press box, which verified that Schilling's observation was correct

SCHILLING SHOULD BE PLAYER/MANAGER.

I THINK ITS A POSSIBILITY ACTUALLY.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wilheim:
Not sure if it can be helped but the real problem with the Sox is defense. The first two runs scored by Seattle tonight should never have happened. As much as I hate to say it I don't see any solution, their infield (especially when Pokey sits) is atrocious. Catching medicre at best, and but for Damon the outfield may be the worst in baseball defensively. Blame the pen if you want, the real problem is this team cannot catch the ball, plain and simple. Station to station offense is problem #2.


wil.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>w., you're absolutely right. they gave the yankees four and five outs an inning in the last series. they go out and sign beefy sluggers with high slugging percentages and no glove. between the bullpen and the defense, they neutralize the starting pitching way too often.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>With the count on the scoreboard 3-2, Schilling yelled from the dugout that Ramirez had four balls instead of three, and manager Terry Francona went onto the field to talk to plate umpire C.B. Bucknor. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Amazing, how many players actually pay attention and notice things like this. What about the 02 Mets getting hair cuts in the dug out? wonder if they would have noticed.
 

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Fishy, remember Manny went to school in the D.R. he can't count that high. Second add another killer "B" to the list, BABE,BUCKNER,BOONE AND BOONE!! It must be a conspiracy.
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lol, only Manny. .He just knows as long as the ump hasnt called him out, he can stay up there and swing away for some more RBI's.
 

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