Raiders tonight

Brock Landers · Sep 22, 2003

People aren't mentioning Plummer's shoulder, its got to be pretty bad for him to have not been able to pass last week even if needed to return in that game.

Raiders know this and know that Portis will get the ball alot, never a good sign when your gameplan is obvious.

Also recall last year when Oakland went into Denver..everyone, including me, loved Denver in that game, Radiers had lost 4 in a row coming in and Gannon had his bets game ever, i think they look to do something similar to that tonight, pass all over the field.

Radiers are +4 1/2 now..i like this to be a FG game either way. Possibly more for Oakland, certainly no more than 3 for Denver, who have played the 2 worst teams in football so far, well not counting Chicago..

truthteller · Sep 22, 2003

My biggest bet of the year is on Oakland tonight at +5.

jjgold · Sep 22, 2003

raiders and will be able to get 6 by gametime.

Guest · Sep 22, 2003

are you guys not worried about oaklands kicking game? is janikowski playing?

jerseymike111 · Sep 22, 2003

Hope your right.I took the raiders +5 also.

darwinmobley · Sep 22, 2003

don't if anyone has noticed but the line looks as if it's dropping, there's 4½'s out there. Get 5 while you can.

valueman · Sep 22, 2003

what do you think of +210 oakland on moneyline or -107 Oakland +5.5? that's what i'm on at at Betfair. Wish me luck1

HABSMAN · Sep 22, 2003

Janikowski got arrested again Saturday night...is he playing tonight?

Jazz · Sep 22, 2003

News - from Yahoo ...

According to the Contra Costa Times, Sebastian Janikowski was arrested Saturday night after getting into a bar fight. Janikowski was arrested on suspicion of misdemeanor assault, misdemeanor vandalism, and being drunk in public after a fight broke out at Slates Supper Club. Several people told police officers that Janikowski, who was described by the police as "very intoxicated," had assaulted them. Janikowski is also suspected of breaking the mirrors off several cars parked near the restaurant. None of the alleged victims suffered serious injuries. Janikowski reportedly wasn't very cooperative with officers but did not resist arrest.

Oh, that lovable and cuddly Seabass. The CC Times did not report whether this incident will affect Seabass' status for tonight's game in Denver. However, he has not kicked well in the past amid controversy, so here's hoping you don't need much from him tonight. The PATs should be fine, but long! field goals could be extra adventurous.

rugby · Sep 22, 2003

I'm on the moneyline valueman. Regardless of line movement, this rivalry throws everything out the window. The line should be pk regardless of stats, injuries, and records.
Rugby

Pretending · Sep 22, 2003

Wow, that's a lot of support for the Raiders so far. I was considering OAK as well but am cooling on the idea.

Re the match-up and the ability for Gannon to excel again, consider this...

The loss of receiver Jerry Porter has made a big difference in how opponents can defend Jerry Rice and Tim Brown. Those two are dependent on Porter drawing attention deep. Obviously it’s easier to take away the short and intermediate routes when a team is not worried so much about getting beat deep. Oakland has averaged only 4.9 yards per pass play in two games this season after averaging 6.9 yppp last season. Denver is good defending the pass, allowing just 5.5 yppp last season (to teams that averaged 6.2 yppp on offense) and only 5.2 yppp this season.

Not trying to be snide here. I just don't know how much of a bargain the Raiders really are and the money is not calling for a 3 or 3.5 point game; which considering home-field would suggest the teams are essentially even.

I'll cheer for you guys from the sideline.

TTinCO · Sep 22, 2003

Raiders +7.5 with a local-lol.

...Forced the extra 1/2 out of him to take off a chunk of his one sided action.

[This message was edited by TTinCO on September 22, 2003 at 02:28 PM.]

jjgold · Sep 22, 2003

sharp money is on Raiders and some got six

-4 will be a lousy play and 4.5 is pushing it.

Brock Landers · Sep 22, 2003

Gannon carves up that Denver D like he did twice last year and the + points won't mean a thing..

2times · Sep 22, 2003

Oakland ML +210

peteep · Sep 22, 2003

What's everyone's thoughts on the total?

HABSMAN · Sep 22, 2003

It's goin Over.....

Pretending · Sep 22, 2003

Anybodyout there like Denver tonight?

blueedwards · Sep 22, 2003

i like denver. watching the raiders play this year...just not the same team. they were man-handled by tennessee and should have lost to the bengals.

the fact that everyone is on oakland makes me like denver even more.

good luck