QUESTION FOR THE SHRINK

drunkguy · Apr 8, 2004

When are you going to answer this...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> Originally posted by Hitman26:
Shrink:

Why aren't you down there fighting for the players with Roberto? Have you been down there since they started slowpaying and stiffing to try and help the players? Have you even considered going down there? You went down there last year and came back to tell us how you were sooooooooooooo impressed and how stable they were.

Many people would like to know
Hitman <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

or mine?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> Other curious minds would like to know (1) why has it taken so long for anyone to step up to the plate, and (2) why is it Roberto and not those who had been shilling for PanAm from the get go? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or will you hide this in the fukking rubber room and ban people? You want to question roberto? Well, people want to question you. Don't turn this into a journeyman interview that with Johnny DeMarco that is manipulated when you don't get the response you want...

Did you visit Panama to check on this book before it opened? Did you visit Panama for the Superbowl party when they were already in financial trouble?

are you there now, to sort out this problem that is months old?

And to the mods...thanks, but no thanks, I don't want your responses. I'll listen to the almighty shrink only.

At a minimum, he owes it to his "customers", the forum posters, to answer this.

Thanks for your response to these pressing questions.

Journeyman · Apr 8, 2004

Why do you think I didn`t get the answer I wanted with Johnny no Sac? He was worse than I imagined, I was just shocked a couple assclowns actually gave him props, but this is America .... I didn`t manipulate the thread Drunk wtf? I changed the title after the asshole kept bumping the thread thanking his 3 fans, thats all...My real audience knew what was up...Leave me out of your never ending attacks on the site Drunkguy , thanks

I can`t walk by the forum without being caught in crossfire anymore...

IDENTITY · Apr 8, 2004

dont change the subject j-man.

Journeyman · Apr 8, 2004

NO identity, who is changing the subject? The guy referenced me, I am allowed to respond...You have nothing better to do either I see? Don`t you have a get out at halftime GOY to post about lol?

drunkguy · Apr 8, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Journeyman:
Leave me out of your never ending attacks on the site Drunkguy , thanks
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think you must be thinking of someone else. My "neverending attacks" have basically centered around the same issue...people being led to the wolves by the "watchdogs". Other than that, I have contributed in NUMEROUS ways to this forum...go back and take a look at my threads of you doubt that.

Your integrity does need to be questioned, however, when you change the titel fo a thread and move it to the rubber room...unfortunatley everyone else here does not have the same options when a thread they post goes against them.. If "real audience knew what was up" why not just leave it in the main forum for all to see?

drunkguy · Apr 8, 2004

Oh, and go back and check that thread and you will see that I was one of the first to strongly call him out...

So I was "on your side"

Journeyman · Apr 8, 2004

You are one of the better posters, no doubt...I am only asking that you not read into things like you seem to have...The thread was very succesful IMO, after the fact a couple guys didn`t like the way I hammered him BFD, then Demarco starts bumping it thanking his 3 supporters??? I guess a guy like him figures any publicity is good publicity....
I still don`t see where he had any real support (one guy probably his cousin, and another guy telling me how to do an interview,lol..as if its a real interview, and a couple ghosts with 2 posts, that is not support) The thread had 100 replies and 2000 views, that is a good thread...And Johnny had enough free airtime...
The posters I respect responded how anyone with a brain would, the other handful of hate *****r agenda posters, who cares...

Sorry to go off topic here...

wilheim · Apr 8, 2004

FWIW - Not an excuse, just an observation. Shrink first posted at around 9AM this morning ( I checked), most likely he has been off-line for hours (last post around 3:45). When you ask a question late like this it may well take until tomoorrow for him to see it.

BTW. Drunk, I move very few threads, it may seem like I do becasue of a thread last month accusing me off moving threads. The truth is I sign every thread I move with a post, so far I have moved 1 thread this week, maybe two this month to the Rubber Room.

wil.

Journeyman · Apr 8, 2004

The mods don`t have the luxury of fighting back and saying what they think at times too, so the RR is best when that happens...
You have any idea how many times they see flat out lies posted and have to explain or defend themselves over and over...Or other site owners non stop 'heckling for hits' campaign?
Funny how according to the other site and its posters have nothing good to say about this site but yet do nothing really but talk about this site and its posters, I find that more than ironic...And never stop comparing themselves to this site....
You ever see anyone from over here start an arguement over at another site and comeback here at TheRx and start a thread about it?

But the Mods are just suppose to take it and never say anything back lol...What a double standard bunch of shiat...The General defends himself (who can blame him) last week and another poster comes in the thread saying "he can`t believe The General lashed out" WTF?
TheRX has no way of winning in forum fueds because in reality this site is by far the biggest and there is way too much jealousy...

No matter what Ken says its taken wrong or used against him...How does anyone know what Ken`s motivation for asking the question was? There was never the slightest hint of negativity directed at Roberto by Shrink , but as usual its spun to read that Ken has some ulterior motive for asking the question...Does it ever end...if this site sucks so bad and the posters and mods and owner are so wrong about everything, why is it so popular, and why is it the only site everyone loves to hate?

THE SHRINK · Apr 9, 2004

drunkguy,

I have responded to many PanAmthreads...

When I went down there 9 months ago, I met with some very key people who were owners, bookmakers, and investors...

This place did impress me and the fact that they bragged about their bond didn't hurt at all...

I am not a licensing body, but I did do my due diligence before accepting them on this site...

Both Scotty from Pan Am and Marty from Royal were two guys I had known for years that had impeccable reputations for being true to their word and honoring people's bets when gamblers won...

I could not ever imagine the problems that were forthcoming because I TRUSTED the people in charge...

In hindsite I was wrong about this sports book, but quite frankly, if another sports book appeared netx month with these credentials, I'd probably end up endorsing them again...

There are other gambling portals who accepted ad money from PanAm and NEVER VISITED THEM...

Why does everyone point their fingers solely at me when I believe it is also the player's responsibility to do their own DUE DILIGENCE before sending monies offshore...

I am just ONE VOICE, period...

I feel AWFUL about what has transpired and I am in continuous contact with ROBERTO as he is working hard to get a better resolution than what we have now...

Lastly, I wasn't challenging him with the thread you alluded to earlier...

I was just curious and he was kind enough to explain the interest he has...

Currently, it doesn't look like my being there will change a thing but I am prepared to go there at a later date if need be...

THE SHRINK

RobertoCastiglioni · Apr 9, 2004

Gentlemen,

Provided Ken need no lawyer here, let me say a few things.

Ken mentioned the bond, and the bond does exist and will be dispersed if things go south. My contribute in this has been to "organize" players so that their claims may be taken care of within dispersement without further delays, if this will be needed.

Ken had trust in some people there. Scotty has gone to the extremes of paying players out of his pockets, and he is even taking heat for that.

Another party, whom Ken didn't mention, is being instrumental to get things accomplished fast. Can't these people be trusted ? I'd trust them with my life, so did Ken.

Have I felt challenged by Ken's post ? Come on, after all I've gone through since I joined this industry someone really thinks I can feel challenged for that ? Ken is as curious as a monkey. That was the motivation behind his post.

Has Ken worked behind the scenes in order to support my efforts ? Definitely.

Not only him. Many others too.

Roberto

buddyboy · Apr 9, 2004

"calling it your job doesn't make it right boss"

-cool hand luke

TheGeneral+ · Apr 9, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Journeyman:
The mods don`t have the luxury of fighting back and saying what they think at times too, so the RR is best when that happens...
You have any idea how many times they see flat out lies posted and have to explain or defend themselves over and over...Or other site owners non stop 'heckling for hits' campaign?
Funny how according to the other site and its posters have nothing good to say about this site but yet do nothing really but talk about this site and its posters, I find that more than ironic...And never stop comparing themselves to this site....
You ever see anyone from over here start an arguement over at another site and comeback here at TheRx and start a thread about it?

But the Mods are just suppose to take it and never say anything back lol...What a double standard bunch of shiat...The General defends himself (who can blame him) last week and another poster comes in the thread saying "he can`t believe The General lashed out" WTF?
TheRX has no way of winning in forum fueds because in reality this site is by far the biggest and there is way too much jealousy...

No matter what Ken says its taken wrong or used against him...How does anyone know what Ken`s motivation for asking the question was? There was never the slightest hint of negativity directed at Roberto by Shrink , but as usual its spun to read that Ken has some ulterior motive for asking the question...Does it ever end...if this site sucks so bad and the posters and mods and owner are so wrong about everything, why is it so popular, and why is it the only site everyone loves to hate?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pretty solid post Jman. There is only one good way to fight negatism and jealousy. Look at it and laugh it off. Try and be the better person. Try and not resort to the level inwhich these people need to stoop for a little attention.

Peep · Apr 9, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> if another sports book appeared netx month with these credentials, I'd probably end up endorsing them again...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, you would. As long as they paid you you would.

Add that to your ad campaign about how you are a way players can make sure their dollars are safe
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> It's a psychiatrist's office:

guy on the couch: " Doc...I'm obsessed. I just want to make sure my money is safe with a trustworthy Offshore Sportsbook."

psychiatrist: "I see, I have THE PRESRIPTION for that"

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And you have an accident waiting to happen.

I am sure that we both hope that fewer people get stiffed next time you make the same mistake.....

drunkguy · Apr 9, 2004

SHRINK

thank you for your answer

Fishhead · Apr 9, 2004

Thanks Shrink!

IDENTITY · Apr 9, 2004

peep give it a rest already. take your bat and ball and go home!!!

InsideThePylons · Apr 9, 2004

Self praise and pats on the back when things are good and all is right usually lead to frustration and finger pointing when things go bad.

Is it any wonder why he gets all the heat when something goes wrong?

Journeyman · Apr 9, 2004

And Roberto responds as any sane man would, didn`t feel threatened in any way, even backed up what Ken told everyone, even regarding the bond....

Where did all the people with the bags of rotten apples go now,lol?