Question about Scalping....

aceduecetrey · Oct 7, 2004

Lets say that the best number that you can find is at a book that you already have a decent position the other way at. Would you still bet there? Basically having both sides at good numbers at the same book. Same scenario for a middle?

Fishhead · Oct 7, 2004

A book with any credibility should have no problem with that............fire away.

wilheim · Oct 7, 2004

Shouldn't matter - if a book hangs a number then they are looking for action on it at either side from anyone in their customer pool. All part of the chart for that particular game.

wil.

Woody0 · Oct 7, 2004

...and unless they run programmes or check your action when cashing out they won't even know.

THE SHRINK · Oct 7, 2004

You shouldn't be middling Football.

aceduecetrey · Oct 7, 2004

Thanks for the input, I have always been a little hesitant to do so. I guess for no reason.

randyrohm · Oct 7, 2004

Shrink maybe you should say you shouldn't middle college foots. The NFL #'s are tough and worth a shot if you know what your spelling, I mean doing. Caught 2 sides in the NFL last week to bail me...Bears and Den.

X-Files · Oct 7, 2004

Some books will have a serious problem with you scalping
both sides of a game at their book. If the book you are
speaking of is Pinnacle, IMO i don't think they'll mind.

X-Files · Oct 7, 2004

THE SHRINK said:
You shouldn't be middling Football.

Why not?

SIA +7.5 +115

Pinnacle -6.5 -115

Bucky · Oct 8, 2004

scalps

:howdy: Just play the value side. So you take the free roll - put 1100 with SIA and it doesn't hit - you don't make a dime. Do it 20 times you might net 4k. If you bury SIA for 10 K they will kick you out.

You are better off just betting 2-300 and you can play value there forever? Ala Golden Goose theory???

X-Files · Oct 8, 2004

Bucky said:
Just play the value side. So you take the free roll - put 1100 with SIA and it doesn't hit - you don't make a dime. Do it 20 times you might net 4k. If you bury SIA for 10 K they will kick you out.

You are better off just betting 2-300 and you can play value there forever? Ala Golden Goose theory???

If you win they are going to kick you out anyway,
unless they change their policy. Betting smaller
amounts may only prolong the inevitable.

assassin · Oct 8, 2004

If you have a good relationship with the book, call them (or email).

This actually happened to me and the book in question said they definitely frowned upon this practice (if you have a positive scalp, not looking to hedge one side even the other side a loss)

just one mans opinion and history

fookineejit · Oct 8, 2004

X-Files said:
Why not?

SIA +7.5 +115

Pinnacle -6.5 -115

Please include the team names in your post.

docdekay · Oct 8, 2004

x files

Big difference ...

Its ALL gravy if you beat them without middling/scalping.

Doug · Oct 8, 2004

Scalping/ middling the same book ? Some will object, but shouldn't. You risked line moving against. Pinny should be OK. It's a grey area. I'd be careful unless you know the book well. Most of these bets will occur against competing books, so no problem.

X-Files · Oct 8, 2004

fookin eejit said:
Please include the team names in your post.

The example is hypothetical, but not much unlike ones that have
actually occured at said books.

X-Files · Oct 8, 2004

docdekay said:
x files

Big difference ...

Its ALL gravy if you beat them without middling/scalping.

Of course, & that's a much bigger risk to seek a bigger payout.
But i was responding to the question about being with said
book forever.

wantitall4moi · Oct 8, 2004

I have done it at Pinnacle for a couple years and they have not said word one about it. Not an email, not a block, not a limit, nothing.But as discussed on here many many times my feeling on them is they are loooking for the scalp action anyways, so if they have to eat a few inside plays so be it as long as they get enough action elsewhere. Basically they are payong you money not to bet the game there. A lot cheaper for them, expecially if you buy back off winners all the time. That might also have something to do with it as well. Buty I have never really tracked them for some unknown reason. How many winners I would have had if I had not bought back I mean.

acw · Oct 8, 2004

Here we go again! I am so disappointed in the RX! I thought this site only had real punters!

Anyhow for those that like scalping, there is one site that encourages you to do so. It is called BetFair. I have been trying to explain to them for the past month that they are missing out a lot by allowing this to happen, but still no changes in their commission structure, so for all you guys: Go and scalp on that site. There is no better place!