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EX BOOKIE
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lol.....

good then , when I was very young ...my grandmother use to take me fishing ...A LOT !!!

I wana teach you how to fish someday . I never told you that I am a semi pro lady bass angler .....

4'11 129 #s....


Ill teach you to pull 6-10 # LMB's out of lilly pads all day long and 35 feet deep when the wind is blowing 20-30 MPH....you will have ablast with me ...


you will be buying a bass boat in no time with your Hilton money !!!


When do you want to do this...fishing In Michigan or down in Texas
 

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never mind that ...i dont wanna go there ..


I think I pretty much wrapped it up today .


we went for 5 hours total !!!


do you want to add anything before i say the final words ...?


you cover it all I think...time to think about the games today...I will send you a E-mail in a 5 mins...I hope everyone Had fun...I did

Ace
 

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I am headed to Lake baccarac , mexico in a few weeks . world famous LMB resort in the sierra madre mountains....then i told you i just bought the Lake Fork property . 1 hour northeast of dallas....( The second most famous LMB lake in the world).

this summer would be great .
 

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1 last post from me .


I hope this helped someone along the way too!!


was fun !!





famous ACE quotes....






10-07-2007, 09:57 AM #225

ACE-ACE
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Originally Posted by Death Eats a Cracker
ACE is a cyborg. He doesn't need sleep.

MOST DAYS ONLY 5 HOURS ....WITH MY RENTALS...PAINT CONT...DOC'S...TANNING PLACE...WHO HAS TIME TO SLEEP...

REMEMBER WHAT YOU PUT IN MY THREAD TWO YEARS AGO...I HAVE SAVE IT AND STILL ABOUT IT...

ACE-ACE DOESN'T SLEEP.HE WAITS
ACE-ACE ISN'T HUNG LIKE A HORSE.HORSES ARE HUNG LIKE ACE-ACE
ACE-ACE CAN GO INTO BURGER KING AND ORDER A BIG MAC...AND GET IT
ACE-ACE ONCE ATE A WHOLE CAKE BEFORE HIS FRIENDS COULD TELL HIM THERE WAS A STRIPPER IN IT


YOU HAD ABOUT 4 MORE....REMEMBER





10-07-2007, 07:12 AM #213

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Originally Posted by QUEEN OF HEARTS
I hope you dont mind .....but Im fixin to put some stuff in here that I dug up on you that I wanted to share w/ all yr followers.

I think that my point in this is to show some of the haters or the few bashers that he is the real deal.

This is a pile of "QUOTES" from ACE in no special order and they were all taken from many many differnet post at several different sites over the past 5 years.( I have alot more!!)I wont mention the names of the other sites and If I accidentally left them in here , I apologize.

Ya, I have alot of time on my hands for this kind of stuff and I kind of like this guys ways, he is a very intersting person in my book.

( I highlighted the good stuff in red and I added my own comments in green).

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( I forget but I think this first article was TAKEN FROM A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE PRIOR TO 2005)

Last week, in full public view, Ace laid out his analyses and bets for the week and then won an incredible six wagers without a loss, raking in more than $11,500.
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MOST OF THE TIME I BET BETWEEN $200 AND $1000

BUT IN FOOTBALL I DO IT BETWEEN $200-$5000
INVESTMENTMENT BETS OVER $2K
ACTION UNDER $1K

I TELL EVERYONE TO BET AT THERE LEVEL....MOST BET 20-30% OF WHAT I BET
THE LAST TWO YEARS I HAVE WON OVER $191K (BASE ON MY POSTED AT THERX)
11 OUT OF 13 YEARS I HAVE WON MONEY
THE TWO YEARS I LOST -$14,200 IN 2001 AND $35,555 IN 1998

I WOULD HAVE TO SAY FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS IAM UP $350K....IF I MAKE A $5K BET THAT WOULD BE A 1% BET BASE ON JUST MY WINNING
IF I MADE A $200 BET IT WOULD BE A 0%......I PLAY AT MY LEVEL !!!
AND I TEACH OTHER TO PLAY AT THERE LEVEL.....
SEE ONCE YOU GOT MONEY YOU DONT NEED IT ANY MORE...IT BECOMES A GAME.....IAM GOOD AT PLAYING THE GAME(FOOTBALL CAPPING)

IF ONE SET A LIMIT ON HOW MUCH TO LOSE IN A GIVEN YEAR....THAN THAT MAN PLAYS WITHIN HIS LIMITOR YOU COULD CALL IT MONEY MANAGEMENT.

I KNOW IAM GOOD AT WHAT I DO( woowoo you go baby!!!) AND I KNOW I CAN HAVE A BAD YEAR...IAM IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL....SO IF I LOSE THE NEXT TWO YEARS...DONT CRY FOR ME......ANYONE THAT PLAYS A GOOD MONEY MANAGEMENT LIKE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WILL NEVER GET TO 10k IN WINNING OR WILL NOT LOSE $10K
I GUESS ITS ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT RIGHT?
BELIEVE IT ARE NOT I KNOW MONEY MANAGEMENT INSIDE OUT....THIS IS RIGHT FOR ME.....MY ONLY GOAL IS TO MAKE THE FOLLOWER UNDER STAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING....STAY WITHIN THERE LIMITS ....
MOST OF THE POSTER THAT IS SMART KNOW WHEN TO FADE SOMEONE....LAST YEAR MOST FADE ME UP TO THE 10TH WEEK....YES THEY DID....THAN I GOT HOT AND THEY JUMP ON...THE DUMB ONE WILL ALWAY DIE EVEN IF YOU GIVE THAN 20-0....THEY WILL FIND AWAY TO LOSE....ITS ONLY THE SMART ONES THAT CAN BE HELPED.....AND THEY ALL HAVE A MIND OF THERE OWN....

BEST TO YOU
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IAM A EXBOOKIE THAT TOLD A LOT OF MONEY FROM THE PLAYERS (LOTS)
AND ITS JUST MY TIME YOU GIVE SOME BACK....ITS THAT SIMPLE

BUT BY GIVEN I GET A LOT OF THING IN RETURN
WHERE THE SHARP ARE PUTTING THERE MONEY
DIFF/BOOKS THAT WILL TELL ME THING
DONE DEALS HERE AND THERE
AS OF RIGHT NOW 3 GUYS HAVE STARTED FORUMS FOR ME AND PAID THE FEES AND I NEVER BEEN TO THEM BUT ONCE ( very interesting .....I would love to elaborate on this w/ ACE after the season is over)

IS IT REALLY MORE FUN TO GIVE A GIFT THAN TO RECEIVE ONE? ( by all means mr.ace ace, by all means!!!)
GENEROSITY HAS A WAY OF RETURNING TO THE GIVER.....
EXBOOKIE WANT TO HELP THE PLAYERS(WHAT I DO IN THE NFL)

I CAN NOT SAID THAT I WILL POST NFL PLAYS HERE....

MY 1ST HOME IS THERX (LOT OF CLOSE FRIENDS THERE...

MY 2ND HOME IS ***** SO FAR

I NEED **** SO THIS IS MY 3TH HOME

THIS IS WHAT I DO IN THE NFL.................
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The truth in examining games is the detail.....anyonewho expects to be successful had better learn to read between the lines to determine how or why teams are winning or losing....

one capper may say that turnover are the most important stat. others home field......passing.....running....ect...

BUT ONE FACTOR USUALLY DONT TELL THE STORY....

anybetter who wants to take advantage of edges will have to learn to read between the lines

other factors can infuence a team's performance....injuries, weather and coaching ......emotion too....

so remember....sometimes stats can lie. stats are a good starting point,but successful betters DIG DEEP.....

Expanding your thinking helps you get better in life......

and at the betting window.......( I LOVE THIS GUY ALREADY!!!)

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INVESTMENT BETS ARE MY BEST.....FOR THE MONEY....

THIS IS MY WAY OF MONEY MANAGEMENT
ITS NOT FOR EVERYONE

YOU SHOULD ONLY BET NO MORE THAN 2-5% OF YOUR BANK ON ANY BET

BUT

THEY (THE BOOKS) ARE ONLY GETTING IF I LOSE WHAT I WANT THEM TO HAVE....

AS WHEN I WAS A BOOKIE ...I TOLD THE PLAYERS...IF YOU ARE IN THIS FOR THE LONG HAUL....HAVE FUN WITH IT....YOU ARE NOT GOING TO WIN ALL MY MONEY AND I DONT WANT TO WIN ALL YOURS!!!!

YOU CAN LOSE BATTLES....BUT DONT LOSE THE WAR!!!!! "CONTROL

HOPE THIS HELP YOU KNOW WHERE I'M COMING FROM

ONCE YOU HAVE MONEY YOU DONT NEED IT.....DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT I MEAN BY THAT? ( I DO I DO I DO!!!!! I just cant figure out what to do w/ it yet !!!! )

AS A BOOKIE I TOOK A LOT OF MONEY FROM YOU
ITS JUST MY TURN TO GIVE SOMETHING BACK

ACE-ACE

WHAT I MEAN BY IT WAS

I'M 50 YEAR OLD ..... HOME PAY FOR .....TEN RENTED HOME ALL PAY FOR.....KID ARE GROW AND OUT ON THERE ONLY...AND CANT THINK OF ONE THING I NEED THAT I DONT HAVE.....A ROOM IN MY HOME IS SET UP JUST LIKE A SPORTBOOK IN LAS VEGAS SO I CAN SEE OR HEAR EACH GAME THAT I WANT....
SO WHAT I MEAN TO SAY IS I HAVE MONEY ALL THAT I CAN USE.....ONCE YOU HAVE MONEY YOU DONT NEED IT ANY MORE
FROM THAT POINT ON ITS ALL ABOUT THE GAME AT HAND....KIDS..FOOTBALL..FRIENDS...FOOD...THING TO KEEP YOU BUSY....ECT....


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I THINK IT WAS 1978 WHEN THE 1ST CASNIO OPEN IN ATLANTIC CITY I WAS 24 THAN AND I WAS THE 10TH PERSON IN LINE AT BALLEY'S TO GET IN.... ( wow,.... really? THATS NEAT!!!)
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I'AM LIKE KENTUCKY FRIED CHICHEN.....I DO CHICHEN(NFL) AND I DO IT RIGHT ( all this and still time to play.............)


I hope you go on a mad crazy run this year ACE ACE. You are an inspiration to us all.

QUEEN OF HEARTS


I THINK BECAUSE I GIVE MY TIME AND TRY TO HELP THAT EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE ME WIN....THANK QUEEN OF HEARTS...IT TOOK YOU A LOT OF TIME TO FIND AND PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER
THE ONE I LIKE THE BEST TO HELP THE PLAYER:::

one capper may say that turnover are the most important stat. others home field......passing.....running....ect...

BUT ONE FACTOR USUALLY DONT TELL THE STORY....

anybettor who wants to take advantage of edges will have to learn to read between the lines

other factors can infuence a team's performance....injuries, weather and coaching ......emotion too....

so remember....sometimes stats can lie. stats are a good starting point,but successful bettors DIG DEEP.....

QOH...NEED A BACK RUB!!!


THANKS MY FRIEND...

ALAN (ACE-ACE)


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Great interview guys, I love to read about successful people and their way, help make you better.
I want to learn more about "Dad" and his "MLB KISS" just like the 99 system. Mlb is my favorite sport, so where can I find out more about Dad?
Does he post? Can you send me more info on this system?

Thanks for another great year Ace and QQH,

Vegas83
 

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Its absolutely wonderful that there are people that still want to help others. Ace Ace and QOH spent a lot of time to do this interview... Very few people in Ace's position would take the time and energy to give back the way he does.

He is clearly happy with life. And yes he has money, but at the same time, he gets his personal satisfaction from giving.. that is a good man. We Thank You Ace.....


Also QOH, thank you for giving us insight into Ace. We know that you spent a lot of time and effort doing this. It was terrific.
 

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ACE
I really don't know what to think of you. Are you the real deal?
Or is QoH your 2nd personality.

The only reason I want believe you is because you say you took a lot of money form players.

How long did you run book for? How many players did you have?

After you quit running book why did you start playing the games? Did you miss the action?

You know dam well you cant save any of these players from themselves. You can sell/give them leads but at the end of the season they have lost double their bankroll.

I am going to keep following your pics.

Good Luck
 

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break down your ??


ACE
I really don't know what to think of you. Are you the real deal?
Or is QoH your 2nd personality.

with 3 other business going and I'm over 50 years old...who has time to make up two poster ....time is more valuable than money once you have it...dont you think


How long did you run book for? How many players did you have?

over 10 years...and most time 80-100 players...some goes other join



After you quit running book why did you start playing the games? Did you miss the action?


no...its always been apart of my life...I just made a lot of connection...and know what to look for so its alway been easy for me

my Bio at doc will show my history

Allen Eastman's BIO

allen1.jpg
Allen Eastman has been a professional handicapper and bookie since 1979. He started betting football back in 1969 at the age of 19. When he was 29 years old, he stated a small book business in which he served more than 100 clients. During that time, he made many connections at different books in New York, Chicago and Detroit. He came in contact with a handful of sharp bettors that bet $5,000 to $20,000 per game.



In 1995, he sold his book business to a local, who in turn became one of the biggest local bookies in the nation. To this day, Eastman gets key information on where the smart money is coming in on crucial games. That type of information is priceless in this industry. Because of his time on the "other side of the counter", Eastman knows all about how lines are made and why they move. He developed a system that tells him what the line will be before it is released and he is correct in 80 percent of his opening line predictions. For the other 20 percent, well that is where he makes his profits. With his system, he sets a value for the difference between the line and what will happen in a game




here is the link
http://www.docsports.com/cappers.html?cap_id=51


best to you

Ace-Ace
 

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Hey guys I have not heard back from my earlier post regarding your teamate known as "Dad" and his baseball system. Is there more info on his system and or him himself?
Thanks again for the interview,

Vegas83
 

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I just want to chime in and say THANK YOU to both Ace-Ace and Queen of Hearts for this thoughtful and insightful question and answer thread.

I really haven't followed Ace-Ace in any sports during my tenure here at the Rx, but after reading this thread...maybe I should get ready to. This thread has really opened my eyes so to speak on various sports gambling subjects I never gave much thought to. Thanks! :toast:

Ace-Ace, will you be posting MLB plays this season? :think2:

Thanks for your unselfish attitude towards us all here. I'm sure I speak for many here by saying you are truly an invaluable asset to the Rx community. :toast:
 

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Hey guys I have not heard back from my earlier post regarding your teamate known as "Dad" and his baseball system. Is there more info on his system and or him himself?
Thanks again for the interview,

Vegas83


Dad use to live in Las vegas...he around 85 now...you can learn a lot from someone that has been in the business for all those year...the deal was I should him how to win in NFL and in return he show me how to win in MLB.

I will ask them to join me here when the season starts:toast:
 

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I just want to chime in and say THANK YOU to both Ace-Ace and Queen of Hearts for this thoughtful and insightful question and answer thread.

I really haven't followed Ace-Ace in any sports during my tenure here at the Rx, but after reading this thread...maybe I should get ready to. This thread has really opened my eyes so to speak on various sports gambling subjects I never gave much thought to. Thanks! :toast:

Ace-Ace, will you be posting MLB plays this season? :think2:

Thanks for your unselfish attitude towards us all here. I'm sure I speak for many here by saying you are truly an invaluable asset to the Rx community. :toast:


there will be two ways to see them...one will be in my win money or lose the bank row thread...
the other you will have to wait and see...

docsports where I work part time will not let me posted my picks on forums after the superbowl....But I'm still here to help all I can.

best to you
Ace
 

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thanks Ace and QOH now I'm so excited I can hardly wait for the 2010 season to start. to learn how to hadicap an NFL from both of you. I am looking forward to it!!! :103631605:howdy:
 

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if you want to learn how I got to be Ace-Ace take your time and see the whole thread...QOH did a great job taking me back to the early days.

Enjoy:thumbsup:

Ace
 

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yes, I spent most if the night comprehending my-line as you say shows where the value is and a starting point, it's what needs to be done after my-line on how to handicap an NFL game and how to find edges whatat statistics to look at and obviously there is more invlved and I am ready and willing to learn the proper way to handicap a game (NFL) when the season ends what can I do if anything to start preparing for the 2010 season wisdom says: if you fail to plan--plan to fail and believe me tthose words are spoken with from experience. :discuss: :thumbsup:
 

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Awesome stuff here. Just wanted to chime in and give a view from a lurker who has followed Ace. Can't explain how much I want to set you two up in a room for days and just soak up as much info as possible. Can't wait to see the rest of these interviews....and hoping that in fact there is a way to get that info for the upcoming season(s) for all sports. Thank you for doing this, and my impression is that you are both very kind people to want to do this. Just can't explain it all, just want all the info I can get. There just doesn't seem to be enough time in the day.....:lol:. Again, thanks from 1 who appreciates this. :103631605
 

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