Pretty good debate..Greatest Shortstop Ever?

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yes. but i dont know what this has to do with rivera being a choke artist. besides. eck was a closer with oakland.
 

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Originally posted by RobFunk:

but this is what I see: a chubby guy who swings across his shoulders like a girl (most power hitters of today swing across their chest) and runs the bases like a girl with his arms flapping like a penguin near his shoulders. QUOTE]

Despite that, he got major pussy
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Madcapper best at position all time
1B: Gehrig
2B: Hornsby
SS: Wagner
3B: Schmidt
OF: Ruth
OF: Mays
OF: Bonds
DH: Cobb*
C: Bench
RHS: Young
LHS: Spahn
CLO: Fingers
* - You gotta find a position for him on this team, even tho DH didnt come til '73
 

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1. Wagner- 7 time batting champion NL
2. Junior Stephens- overlooked by all of you
In 1943 Stephens hit 22 HR's all the other AL Shortstops hit 15
In 1944 Stephens hit 20 HR's all the other AL Shortstops hit 3
In 1945 Stephens hit 24 HR's all the other AL Shortstops hit 20- Even when Arod hit 57 the other shortstops hit well over 200
Junior Stephens fron 1948 to 1950 had 137, 159 & 144 RBI's no shortstop ever came close to that. His 159 rbi's in 1949 was not surpassed byany player of any position for over 45 years.

3. Ripken 2MVP's - longevity
4. Ozzie Smith - defense
5. Lou Bodreau of Cleveland
 

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love your list bubba but id have walter johnson as the right handed starter and the closer is debateable.. i have trouble leaving aaron off as well....

mr nj sports, furcal and giles both, im hearing you with the braves..
 

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I like Bubba's list as well...I would have Eckersley close though...Cobb or Williams as the 4th outfielder/dh
 

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i agree jman, eck would be my closer, walter johnson would be my right handed starter.. tough to leave off stan musial as well..
 

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jman, ive got a good friend of mine who argues for yogi -- as alltime best catcher.. any thoughts?
 

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not really , maybe Wilheim could give a strong opinion, or old man Ted.... I think most will concede its Johnny Bench...one thing i did not realize about Bench until a few years ago, he had a very serious operation ( I believe it was cancer actually) and after that he was not the same player, according to Bench himself....and if you look back at his career he did fall off the table after that...

From what I have read Berra would be top 5 ...he did once throw me a ball at Memorial Stadium, when he coached the Yanks lol
 

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ive got bench at catcher jamn and schmidt at third.. my friend argues about yogi, he did win MVP 3 times (correct??)
 

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The HR's give Schmidt a slight edge over Brett...I don't think you could go wrong with either...I would take Schmidt too, even though I am an American Leaguer at heart SSI..I am sure you are an NL'er at heart.
 
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Yogi being a NJ Devils fan has to help him in the debate.

having watched baseball since late 70's it is tough to know who was greatest without ever seeing people play.
 

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For the idiots commenting on Ruth:

He was actually fast until his last few years
He neevr did anything besides hit homers?
He hit .342 for his LIFETIME
He was also a great pitcher with a great world series record, would have won a CY YOung award if they had them back then and was probably the best left handed pitcher in baseball for 5 years
 

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