Poor Managment, can you spot it

RoBoKnowsCop · Jun 4, 2007

Brewers (32-25)

<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="bg1" align="left"><td>Lineup</td><td>AB</td><td>R</td><td>H</td><td>RBI</td></tr><tr id="playerId448407" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">C. Hart RF</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId292125" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">J. Hardy SS</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId1103045" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">R. Braun 3B</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId390862" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">P. Fielder 1B</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId129293" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 238);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">J. Estrada C</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId10774" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">G. Jenkins LF</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId224423" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">B. Hall CF</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId7535" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">C. Counsell 2B</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId486527" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">D. Bush P</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>

R, R, R, L,S,L,R, S. How about separating your left handers? Maybe Bat Fielder (better hitter than Braun) ahead of Braun. This is a minor thing but every move counts.

kid44 · Jun 4, 2007

Disagree with poor management. You have to look at the base running also. Fielder hitting lights out and deserves to be in the 4 hole. Estada or Counsel should not be up in the top 4. Like the way things are set up.

RoBoKnowsCop · Jun 4, 2007

kid44 said:
Disagree with poor management. You have to look at the base running also. Fielder hitting lights out and deserves to be in the 4 hole. Estada or Counsel should not be up in the top 4. Like the way things are set up.

I didn't propose Estrada or Counsel should be in the top 4. Only that Braun and Fielder should be swapped. Your best Hitter should hit 3rd. It is assinine to go RRRLSL. You have to switch that block of LSL up, otherwise the LOOGY can come in and stay in for 3 batters. I don't see what point you make by saying consider baserunning. I like this Brewer Team quite a bit. I feel they have the best staff in the NL, BUT this is poor.

kid44 · Jun 4, 2007

Many more things to explain than base running. If I play manager I do not put Braun in the 4 hole just due to inexperience. Look how long they stuck with Hall and I think it killed his confidence. I will put the best player in any spot with disregard to hitting side. Fielder, NL player of the month deserves that spot. We can agree to disagree at what we feel is the most important spot in the top 5.

I have been a fan of the Crew since 1974 and have not seen a team like this before, other than the Ganter, Molitor, Yount days. These kids have been brought up in the organization and have played together.

It may not happen this year but soon will come. As poorly as that road trip was they still have an advantage of a poor division. I want to see them build confidence and have something for the end. Hopefully injuries will not be part of the equation. Oh, by the way Mench or Gross will be gone this year and Jenkins after year end.

RoBoKnowsCop · Jun 4, 2007

Um....you trust Braun in the 3-SPOT????? The 3-spot is more important than the four spot I love this Brewer team. Did you look at the lineup Yost had tonight?

Here is what Yost Had
<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="bg1" align="left"><td>Lineup</td><td>AB</td><td>R</td><td>H</td><td>RBI</td></tr><tr id="playerId448407" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">C. Hart RF</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId292125" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">J. Hardy SS</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId1103045" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">R. Braun 3B</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId390862" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">P. Fielder 1B</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId129293" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 238);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">J. Estrada C</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId10774" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">G. Jenkins LF</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId224423" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">B. Hall CF</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId7535" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">C. Counsell 2B</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId486527" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">D. Bush P</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
Here is what I proposed (swap Braun and Fielder). Maybe you mis-understood. Braun is already hitting in the top 4 in Yost's Lineup.
<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="bg1" align="left"><td>Lineup</td><td>AB</td><td>R</td><td>H</td><td>RBI</td></tr><tr id="playerId448407" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">C. Hart RF</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId292125" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">J. Hardy SS</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId1103045" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left"><table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr id="playerId390862" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">P. Fielder 1B</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td valign="top"><table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr id="playerId1103045" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">R. Braun 3B</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td valign="top">
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</td></tr><tr id="playerId129293" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 238);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">J. Estrada C</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId10774" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">G. Jenkins LF</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId224423" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">B. Hall CF</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId7535" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">C. Counsell 2B</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr id="playerId486527" style="background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);" class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">D. Bush P</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>

Sportsrmylife · Jun 4, 2007

I don't have a problem with Braun hitting 3. He is a very good hitter and the way that Fielder is hitting the ball they are going to start attacking him more. Prince is a great blanket of protection for Braun who is going to be an outstanding hitter. He is the truest 3 hitter that the Brewers have on the field. Hall can't hit in the top of the order as they messed him up by sending him to CF this season after loading his wallet with bennys. Jenkins isn't a 3, nor is Hardy or Estrada.

We just have to live with it and hope that Prince hits 60 HRs. Oh and expect him to finish the year with 90 RBIs if he does hit 60 as he is the solo HR king!