Pokerstars is rigged - what's a better sight?

[Dilrod]

I'm done with this pos rigged b.s.

Any suggestions?

 

[terps1313]

Proof?

 

[Dilrod]

It's online?

 

[Dilrod]

just a lot of suspicious outcomes imo. Then I read this thread

http://www.blindbetpoker.com/subfolder/forum/t1101-pokerstars-is-rigged.html

 

[terps1313]

I agree alot of times it seems rigged when you are running bad but I have a hard believing sites are rigged when I am up for my career on the site. Not alot but I am up. And my best friend is up 20K on his career. Have the stats to back it up as well.

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

Yea i think it just seems like its set up....Try the Cake Poker Network...totally random there...


Hand #176741076E000405: $1,500 GUARANTEED! PLO - R&A
Seat 3: shad*** (26225.00 in chips)
Seat 4: Dntc*** (86601.00 in chips)
Seat 5: base*** (21700.00 in chips)
Seat 6: mind*** (1560.00 in chips)
Seat 7: Alwa*** (32400.00 in chips)
Seat 8: lois*** (1700.00 in chips)
Seat 9: CaseyAnthony (15570.00 in chips)
Seat 10: gall*** (4900.00 in chips)
shad***: posts small blind 300
Dntc***: posts big blind 600
Dealt to CaseyAnthony [ 4d 6d 3h 7h ]
base***: calls
mind***: is all in 1560.0000
Alwa***: folds
lois***: is all in 1700.0000
CaseyAnthony: calls
gall***: folds
shad***: folds
Dntc***: calls
base***: calls
@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ As 6c 9c ]
Dntc***: bets 8,660
base***: folds
CaseyAnthony: folds
Dntc***: returns uncalled bet 8,660
Dntc***: shows Kc 8c 9s 9d
mind***: shows 5c Ks 4c Qd
lois***: shows Jc 8s Kh 8d
# # # TURN # # # [ Ad ]
&&& RIVER &&& [ Jh ]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dntc*** wins 560 with Full House, Nines full of Aces
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dntc*** wins 8,100 with Full House, Nines full of Aces


Hand #176741076E000410: $1,500 GUARANTEED! PLO - R&A
Seat 1: blue*** (34400.00 in chips)
Seat 2: SeeT*** (8100.00 in chips)
Seat 3: shad*** (25925.00 in chips)
Seat 4: Dntc*** (93561.00 in chips)
Seat 5: base*** (20000.00 in chips)
Seat 7: Alwa*** (32400.00 in chips)
Seat 9: CaseyAnthony (13870.00 in chips)
Seat 10: gall*** (4900.00 in chips)
Dntc***: posts small blind 300
base***: posts big blind 600
Dealt to CaseyAnthony [ Kc Qd 2h 9h ]
Alwa***: folds
CaseyAnthony: folds
gall***: folds
blue***: raises to 2,000
SeeT***: folds
shad***: folds
Dntc***: calls
base***: folds
@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ 9c 9s Tc ]
Dntc***: checks
blue***: bets 3,000
Dntc***: calls
# # # TURN # # # [ 6c ]
Dntc***: checks
blue***: checks
&&& RIVER &&& [ Ah ]
Dntc***: checks
blue***: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
blue***: shows [ Kd 4h Kh 3s ] (Two Pairs, Kings and Nines )
Dntc***: shows [ 8s 7d Ad Th ] (Straight, Ten high)
Dntc*** wins 10,600 with Straight, Ten high


Hand #176741076E000415: $1,500 GUARANTEED! PLO - R&A
Seat 1: blue*** (29400.00 in chips)
Seat 2: SeeT*** (8100.00 in chips)
Seat 3: shad*** (25925.00 in chips)
Seat 4: Dntc*** (99161.00 in chips)
Seat 5: base*** (19400.00 in chips)
Seat 6: Poke*** (4325.00 in chips)
Seat 7: Alwa*** (32400.00 in chips)
Seat 9: CaseyAnthony (13870.00 in chips)
Seat 10: gall*** (4900.00 in chips)
base***: posts small blind 300
Poke***: posts big blind 600
Dealt to CaseyAnthony [ 7c Qs 9s Qh ]
Alwa***: folds
CaseyAnthony: folds
gall***: folds
blue***: calls
SeeT***: folds
shad***: folds
Dntc***: calls
base***: calls
Poke***: checks
@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ 2d 9d 5s ]
base***: checks
Poke***: checks
blue***: checks
Dntc***: checks
# # # TURN # # # [ Kh ]
base***: checks
Poke***: checks
blue***: checks
Dntc***: bets 2,400
base***: calls
Poke***: folds
blue***: calls
&&& RIVER &&& [ 5c ]
base***: checks
blue***: checks
Dntc***: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dntc***: shows [ 6h Ks 6d 4d ] (Two Pairs, Kings and Fives )
base***: mucks
blue***: shows [ Th 6c Kc 3c ] (Two Pairs, Kings and Fives )
blue*** wins 9,600 with Two Pairs, Kings and Fives with Ten kicker
base***: mucks [ As, 9h, Js, Qd ] (TwoPair)


Hand #176741076E000420: $1,500 GUARANTEED! PLO - R&A
Seat 1: blue*** (36000.00 in chips)
Seat 2: SeeT*** (8100.00 in chips)
Seat 3: shad*** (25925.00 in chips)
Seat 4: Dntc*** (96161.00 in chips)
Seat 5: base*** (16400.00 in chips)
Seat 6: Poke*** (3725.00 in chips)
Seat 7: Alwa*** (32400.00 in chips)
Seat 9: CaseyAnthony (13870.00 in chips)
Seat 10: gall*** (4900.00 in chips)
Poke***: posts small blind 300
Alwa***: posts big blind 600
Dealt to CaseyAnthony [ Ks Ah Jc Kd ]
CaseyAnthony: calls
gall***: folds
blue***: folds
SeeT***: folds
shad***: raises to 1,200
Dntc***: calls
base***: folds
Poke***: folds
Alwa***: folds
CaseyAnthony: calls
@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ Ac 3s Ts ]
CaseyAnthony: checks
shad***: bets 4,500
Dntc***: calls
CaseyAnthony: folds
# # # TURN # # # [ 8d ]
shad***: bets 6,000
Dntc***: calls
&&& RIVER &&& [ Js ]
shad***: bets 6,000
Dntc***: raises to 43,500
shad***: is all in 8225.0000
Dntc***: returns uncalled bet 29,275
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dntc***: shows [ 7h Kh 9s Qs ] (Flush, Queen high)
shad***: mucks
Dntc*** wins 53,950 with Flush, Queen high
shad***: mucks [ 5h, 3d, Ad, 8s ] (TwoPair)


Hand #176741076E000430: $1,500 GUARANTEED! PLO - R&A
Seat 1: blue*** (36000.00 in chips)
Seat 2: SeeT*** (8100.00 in chips)
Seat 4: Dntc*** (124186.00 in chips)
Seat 5: base*** (16400.00 in chips)
Seat 6: Poke*** (3425.00 in chips)
Seat 7: Alwa*** (31800.00 in chips)
Seat 9: CaseyAnthony (12670.00 in chips)
Seat 10: gall*** (4900.00 in chips)
Alwa***: posts small blind 300
CaseyAnthony: posts big blind 600
Dealt to CaseyAnthony [ Ac 3d 7c Qh ]
gall***: folds
blue***: folds
SeeT***: folds
Dntc***: calls
base***: folds
Poke***: folds
Alwa***: calls
CaseyAnthony: checks
@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ Jd Kc Ts ]
Alwa***: checks
CaseyAnthony: checks
Dntc***: bets 1,800
Alwa***: raises to 7,200
CaseyAnthony: is all in 12070.0000
Dntc***: calls
Alwa***: calls
# # # TURN # # # [ 8c ]
Alwa***: is all in 19130.0000
Dntc***: calls
Dntc***: shows Jh Js 5c Ks
Alwa***: shows 5d As 6c Qc
CaseyAnthony: shows Ac 3d 7c Qh
&&& RIVER &&& [ Kd ]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dntc*** wins 38,260 with Full House, Kings full of Jacks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dntc*** wins 38,010 with Full House, Kings full of Jacks

 

[gbogo]

just my experience from playing alot - i dont play at all anymore

partypoker win

pokerstars lose

full tilt win


party poker the winner seemed pre-determined you knew pretty quick whether it was you or someone else so depending on the read -play or quit

pokerstars - suck out on the river city BS cards - hard to win a pot

full tilt - seemed more 45/55 to me at least you had a chance to win if you were running good and the hands actually held up.

 

[Dilrod]

Heh I've seen countless people complaining about all 3 of those books. IMO all the software at every place is probably rigged. Why wouldn't it be rigged? They can get away with it and boost their profits easily. I swear, every time I get pocket kings or AA I now expect someone fishy to happen, because it usually does. Over the past week I've lost with those hands probably 80% of the time.

 

[Dilrod]

first KK since postin, lost to AA, what a coincidence! I also lost trip queens to some jackass who drew A A, then I lost to the same guy he was holding pocket 9s and bet against my set of KJ, and he gets a fcuking straight.

I either have the worst fucking luck imaginable or..............

 

[Dilrod]

This shits fucking rigged

 

[Frankinho]

Hey mate, I hear you as I have these things happening to me quite a lot as well. KK losing against AA is shitty, but that it possible. OK it seems to happen way much more online than it would happen in real life, but still, with those calls I can live. What frustrates me the most are those fishing idiots who keep on calling your bets and raises with nothing or pretty much nothing compared to what you have in your hand. Sometimes you end up to be the winner *woohoo*, but so many times this fishing loser wins the pot on the river while he should have left the pot waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before. I used to play alot of poker online, but now only occasionally as I started to totally dislike it.

 

[Dilrod]

I'm playing at Cake now and so far I think this shit is rigged too. I'm up because my 99 beat AA all-in. Then I lost a huge pot with Qh6h against Ah10c because 4 fucking hearts came up. Two of the biggest hands so far, both times the worse hand won.

 

[Leatherballs]

Try out www.playerwins.com


The network of players are absolutely terrible plus the main tourney every night they are throwing in an extra $1k to the prize pool every night untill the end of February.

My buddy has won the $1500 NL Holdem tourney twice now. The buy-in is only $30 and there have never been more than 25 people in the whole tournament and you do not get that at Tilt or Pokerstars

As far as withdrawals, he got his check in the mail after cashing out in just over a week and then did moneygram the next time and it was pretty much instantly i believe

I dont care which site you try out, but if you are in it to win some money, you should give playerwins.com a try. Promise, the way some of these guys play on there is ridiculous.

 

[javahh]

Why do you think poker sites need to rig a game? Like a casino, they'll gladly give you 97 cents for every dollar spent. I don't care how good of a hand you have, if your opponent has an out, there's always a chance. qed.

 

[HaoleLama]

just a lot of suspicious outcomes imo. Then I read this thread

http://www.blindbetpoker.com/subfolder/forum/t1101-pokerstars-is-rigged.html

i cashed out of p stars a long time ago; i play on ftp and ult bet;
think about it:
the only way a bad player wins is too get lucky , pstars wins by more players playing and contributing to the rake; bad players win and get a chance to receive their tourney portion of the flat payout; then good players reload "knowing " the odds will fall their way, and the bad beat they received will be less likely to happen again.

stars has too many funny boards in tourneys

 

[Beanne]

How would an online site know who they are biased for or against? If a site's only gain in fixing play is a increased rake, which is already rather low...I find it hard to believe they'd even take the risk in being shutdown or losing their patronage. I play occassionally online, and I find that I see the same bad beats as in my live game. However, it feels more concentrated, only because I see 4x more hands per hour. I'm just not sure what to think about large sites like Pstars or FT being fixed.

 

[festeringZit]

How would an online site know who they are biased for or against? If a site's only gain in fixing play is a increased rake, which is already rather low...I find it hard to believe they'd even take the risk in being shutdown or losing their patronage. I play occassionally online, and I find that I see the same bad beats as in my live game. However, it feels more concentrated, only because I see 4x more hands per hour. I'm just not sure what to think about large sites like Pstars or FT being fixed.

They're not fixed.

 

[tayzler]

sounds like some sore losers..... just play better

 

[HaoleLama]

just my experience from playing alot - i dont play at all anymore

partypoker win

pokerstars lose

full tilt win


party poker the winner seemed pre-determined you knew pretty quick whether it was you or someone else so depending on the read -play or quit

pokerstars - suck out on the river city BS cards - hard to win a pot

full tilt - seemed more 45/55 to me at least you had a chance to win if you were running good and the hands actually held up.

i agree completely with above;
2 stories:

1) I have a friend who deals poker for a living and he told me that he knew of 3 people who would collude together online on stars and still could not win.

He stated the only people who win on stars were people who keep big 5 figure balances in their account and if their account took many withdrawls, and their balance got low they would get rivered non stop.

2) A poker pro I know (4 mill + in winnings) will only play the cheap tourneys on stars because of the funny boards


think about it, stars tourneys have flat payouts - why? spread the money out over many people since the donks lose and don't reload and the smart money reloads "knowing" the odds will fall in their favor eventually.

i got hosed real bad in a big $ tourney on such a ridiculous situation that i quit stars for awhile then 2 years later finally withdrew everything and i don't play there anymore at all

i don't think that there is necessarily one individual that is selected to win i just think that the pocket cards/ wacky boards go together;
e.g. person has aces and donk rivers trips; or flop trips , flush turn, boat river - the stars boards generate fast action and get people get knocked out of tourneys and onto cash games = more rake for stars

 

[pocketrockets]

Lol