Matt24-
I use an excel worksheet to track the results of all my sessions (poker and sports) but check out PokerTracker it rocks...well worth the money I paid for the software. It is a good way to analyze how you play various hands, which hands are profitable and which are not, how you play from various positions, etc. I found that what I thought was my biggest leak in fact is but I'm hard pressed to change that situation since if I did I would likely find the game a bit less enjoyable.
One of the more interesting things I found was that JJ was a more profitable hand for me than QQ. That result could certainly be skewed based on a limited set of data. I tend to think that I play JJ much tighter since I always thought it "sucked" and muck it when I don't flop a set and an overcard comes while I probably push QQ a bit more.
Fishhead-
You don't mean that you've found a way to use pokertracker for sports wagering, do you?
I use an excel worksheet to track the results of all my sessions (poker and sports) but check out PokerTracker it rocks...well worth the money I paid for the software. It is a good way to analyze how you play various hands, which hands are profitable and which are not, how you play from various positions, etc. I found that what I thought was my biggest leak in fact is but I'm hard pressed to change that situation since if I did I would likely find the game a bit less enjoyable.
One of the more interesting things I found was that JJ was a more profitable hand for me than QQ. That result could certainly be skewed based on a limited set of data. I tend to think that I play JJ much tighter since I always thought it "sucked" and muck it when I don't flop a set and an overcard comes while I probably push QQ a bit more.
Fishhead-
You don't mean that you've found a way to use pokertracker for sports wagering, do you?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt24:
So with this, you just have to import the hand histories into the program and it figures it all out? Do you have to request hand history every time you get done at a table or just daily?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The hand histories is one of the best features....essentially you start PT after you log into the poker site and PT has an "auto-request" feature which will automatically request hand histories for you at certain time intervals. You then load the hand histories from your email and away you go. It collects the data (by player
) and populates certain statistics. It is up to you to interpret the data.
I'm a numbers guy so I love checking the software and looking at all sorts of data. I have to admit though that the software is starting to lose utility for me. I probably have not utilized it to its fullest capabilities but after a while the data isn't worth that much once you've analyzed it. I can't imagine how guys who are winning players manage to get value out of this after years of play. If they are winners I imagine they do not vary their play much so what is there to see?
So with this, you just have to import the hand histories into the program and it figures it all out? Do you have to request hand history every time you get done at a table or just daily?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The hand histories is one of the best features....essentially you start PT after you log into the poker site and PT has an "auto-request" feature which will automatically request hand histories for you at certain time intervals. You then load the hand histories from your email and away you go. It collects the data (by player
I'm a numbers guy so I love checking the software and looking at all sorts of data. I have to admit though that the software is starting to lose utility for me. I probably have not utilized it to its fullest capabilities but after a while the data isn't worth that much once you've analyzed it. I can't imagine how guys who are winning players manage to get value out of this after years of play. If they are winners I imagine they do not vary their play much so what is there to see?
swami- have you picked up any good no limit tournament books? My multi table tournament game is so weak, I usually double my stack, but that is it, then I start going down, very frustrating. I've won every week since I've came back, but I'm losing $66 or $99 a week on 2 or 3 $33 multis. One win would make up for about 200 entries, but I'm not even getting close to getting paid.
Matt,
I would HIGHLY recommend Championship no-limt & pot limit holdem by T.J. Cloutier and Tom McEvoy. I have several books but this is my best Tourney book. I think TJ does an excellent job of helping you "change" your mentality from the ring games to tourney.
Proof is in the pudding though. In the last 2 months 4 final tables, 2 wins worth about $12,000.
Also pick up Championship Tournament Hands by the same duo. Nice complement and details on individual hands.
TJ's style is direct and to the point.
I would HIGHLY recommend Championship no-limt & pot limit holdem by T.J. Cloutier and Tom McEvoy. I have several books but this is my best Tourney book. I think TJ does an excellent job of helping you "change" your mentality from the ring games to tourney.
Proof is in the pudding though. In the last 2 months 4 final tables, 2 wins worth about $12,000.
Also pick up Championship Tournament Hands by the same duo. Nice complement and details on individual hands.
TJ's style is direct and to the point.
Also wanted to add this. Your problem is common if you are playing a lot of ring games. It is difficult to play well at both in the same time frame. I basically stopped my NL ring game play for 7 card stud only and play NL single and multi table.
A lot more patience is needed in tourney. And even the type of aggresive play differs from cash. Any way hope this helps. I am well on my way to a nice stack for football season!
A lot more patience is needed in tourney. And even the type of aggresive play differs from cash. Any way hope this helps. I am well on my way to a nice stack for football season!
I was planning on getting those here pretty soon. Im a winning player at low limit and at $50 single table tourneys, but suck at multis, I am probably playing more single table tourneys than anything right now. It could be my patience sometime, ive lost the last 2 times with KQ when it flopped top pair, one guy had a set on me and the other guy hit a strait, sucked.
Matt24-
Couple of things:
1) Don't worry about importing duplicate hands. The software will recognize this and will not import the duplicates. Since they added the auto-requestor I usually just set the time interval and let the software do its work.
2) Surprisingly, I have not read any tounament books. I've looked for one but generally they all seem to suck. With that said, T-Dogg's book recommendation (T.J. and McEvoy book) is one that I've heard before as being the best of the worst.
I really limit my play to ring games and dabble in the multis since you need to allocate seven hours to play in the large tourneys.
Couple of things:
1) Don't worry about importing duplicate hands. The software will recognize this and will not import the duplicates. Since they added the auto-requestor I usually just set the time interval and let the software do its work.
2) Surprisingly, I have not read any tounament books. I've looked for one but generally they all seem to suck. With that said, T-Dogg's book recommendation (T.J. and McEvoy book) is one that I've heard before as being the best of the worst.
I really limit my play to ring games and dabble in the multis since you need to allocate seven hours to play in the large tourneys.
Matt, nicely done.
I actually find the tournaments a bit easier when you get into the money, getting there is the tough part. Many of the decisions to be made are driven by factors other than the cards you get (blind size, relative stack size of other players, payouts and number of players to the next tier, etc.) unless you are a big stack.
I actually find the tournaments a bit easier when you get into the money, getting there is the tough part. Many of the decisions to be made are driven by factors other than the cards you get (blind size, relative stack size of other players, payouts and number of players to the next tier, etc.) unless you are a big stack.
Yeah I got up to 4800 pretty early, while avg chip stack was 2000 or so, but I folded the next 40 or so hands, couldnt get crap. Got down to 3000 and by that time needed a double up to get in the money, moved all in from the bb with KQspades and took some blinds and then waited for QQ and busted JJ to move up to 7500. Didnt win a pot after that, and I had that 7500 with 200 players left. I didnt catch any breaks really the whole time, no double ups early, just constant building up to 4800.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt24:
It paid top 90, so I cashed, but only a profit of $56.25, 2 more spots was another 26 bucks, I was able to move up a few pay ladders just by folding and being disconnected, as they paid the top 90.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Cool. Your second post made it seem like maybe you didn't cash.
It paid top 90, so I cashed, but only a profit of $56.25, 2 more spots was another 26 bucks, I was able to move up a few pay ladders just by folding and being disconnected, as they paid the top 90.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Cool. Your second post made it seem like maybe you didn't cash.
