Please stop bashing Oregon

[1osubucks]

They did not get to where they are and do what they did by being a bad team ... Think about this, what does that say for FSU? The problem here is many still don't get it. Ohio State is a very good team. They are big, physical, and yes.. Fast. Not to mention they have the best head coach in the game. They did the same thing they did tonight to Alabama in that a very good team can make another good team look not so good. Oregon, just as Alabama, is a good football team. They just ran into a team who is better.

Oregon was and is a good football team. Just as Alabama.. They lost to the better team, plain and simple. It does NOT make them a bad team. Bad teams don't accomplish what they have accomplished.

 

[WebeBad]

Yeah, we think OryGun is a very good West Coast Team! Enjoyed the 22-point beat down.

We Be Bad

 

[tmader7]

NOW, let's see if the prediction I joined in with the boyz of ESPN First Take goes down. No way in hell the Bucky's keep all three of those QB's, not happening. I'd give my left nut to have the Steelers draft Jones to back up Ben, whose contract is up for negotiating anyway, he might be out the door. I like what I hear coming out of Jones' mouth, new baby, make a wonderful addition to the Steelers organization. It could happen.

~T~

 

[1osubucks]

NOW, let's see if the prediction I joined in with the boyz of ESPN First Take goes down. No way in hell the Bucky's keep all three of those QB's, not happening. I'd give my left nut to have the Steelers draft Jones to back up Ben, whose contract is up for negotiating anyway, he might be out the door. I like what I hear coming out of Jones' mouth, new baby, make a wonderful addition to the Steelers organization. It could happen.

~T~

T his only negative is experience and I think we saw that in the last two games with his turn overs. Some bad decisions because he has not been in those positions before. His upside is huge.. I hate to sound like a homer and try to always be objective, but in my honest opinion of the 4 teams in the playoff Jones was and is the best QB of the 4 when you look at all the measurable traits. While he was third on the depth chart he could easily have been first. Millers ability to run put him number one. In the spring Jones was second on the depth chart and tbh i dont know why he fell to third. We were fortunate to have 3 kids when you put everything together that are pretty close to each other with ability.. I would like to see him stay in school but if he could be projected as a first round pick I would love for him to see the financial reward. He has gone through some really tough life issues and it would be great for him, or any kid, who has struggled as he has, to come out in good shape for a change and enjoy the good things life has to offer.

i think all 4 teams in the playoff are good solid teams, i think the difference maker was the head coach.. i have said it forever. Urban Meyer is the best "coach" out there. I am not even sure who I would put at second. I think saban is average with X's and O's but his ability to recruit is unmatched, that is what makes bama so great. On top of that he is a great leader, few men like him in the country. He can be successful at what ever he chooses to do because he understands the organizational "process" of success.. on top of that I think he is a class act. He is probably one of best, if not the best men in the coaching profession. Saban represents everything that is good in college football, I think Urban Meyer has learned a lot from him and is becoming more "saban" like..

 

[DrJimmy]

Jones is better QB than Braxton hands down. Not sure OSU wins it all with Braxton back there. I would let him transfer and let the other 2 slug it out. Agree that Cardale has NFL potential but needs some more experience.

 

[REDEYE]

Osubucks, great season, great game... glad I was on the right side with my play... I was hopeful we could do something, but knew going in that MM would have to be great.. We were outmanned and outcoached... pretty simple... I'm still hopeful for the future, this wasn't our best team... it just seemed that way because we had MM..

 

[cloverleaf]

I thought Oregon had a great season. Just getting to the title game now is an accomplishment worthy of praise.

Ohio State played their best ball when it mattered. I'm guessing Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon would all agree.

Oregon folks should be proud of the Ducks....damn good year!

 

[memphis]

fsu omfg bad n thug qb n liar coach. all bad

 

[BuzzKill]

My cat is a huge Ducks fan. He is so upset that this morning he refused to eat!

 

[WinOne]

After the game there was talk that Cardell "might" look at the NFL. Apparently he's just become a daddy and there is talk that with his arm that he could be a developmental QB (3rd or 4th) rounder instead of coming back to TOSU and having to sit behind 2 guys that he's got better NFL Skills than (Big arm, pocket presence and mobility). That's what I was hearing after the game. Don't know tho

 

[WinOne]

Also major props for Oregon to get there having lost:
- Top OL (Johnstone)
- Top CB (Ifo)
- Top TE (Pharoh Brown)
- Top WR (Carrington)

Of note in the game, that first drop where the kid was 35 yards down field, that receiver was replacing WR Carrington who was to Ducks top WR. Drops killed the ducks in the game. Also not being able to bring down Zeke or Cardell. Second series for OSU where they were pinned in their own endzone, Duck had Cardell dead to right but he throws a rope for 30yrd to get a first down on 3rd and 9. Ducks couldn't bring him down in the endzone and could have gotten a stop or a safety on the play. They were both just too physical and ran through tackles to get the yards.

Major props to them and TOSU. Congrats to the Bucks!!

 

[Albatross]

I didn't follow much PAC or Oregon football that much this year as I have in previous years. The two major mismatches was on the Front 7s on both sides of the ball. Oregon has 2 very good DE, but no depth. They lack size in the interior. The LBs struggled against with filling the holes on that counter trap. OSU didn't have to test the secondary that often because the run game. Against Bama they exposed the weak secondary. That's all coaching and finding the weakness. The dropped passes hurt, but I really don't think that made much of a difference when you add in the OSU TOs. Oregon has all the tools needed from a recruiting standpoint, but I really think they need to change the profile of D players they are recruiting on the front 7. MM was one hell of a college QB and we all will see what happens in the next level.

Heard a a guy on the radio bitching about OSU being classed as an SEC type team. His argument was 16 players on both sides of the ball were from Ohio. You don't have to recruit in the southeast, but more of a philosophy of the type of players and style of ball you play. I understand what he was alluding to and the hatred of the SEC outside of the south, but the term is used loosely in describing the type of play. OSU will continue playing that brand because Urban knows it works. There are those players all over the country, it's just if you want to run that style of Football. It doesn't have to come out of the sec....just look at the Bucks and FSU last year. Very similar to the sec brand. Maybe the brand is what aggravates people the most.....which I can see the point.

Back to Oregon, which we know about the D struggles, the one thing that really stood out to me was the lack of a stud RB like they have had in years past. Just seems like that was the missing piece on this years Duck team. Might be the Oline, but not having a James or Barner seemed to show.....which just put more load on MM.

OSU was hands down the best team by going through the top 2 teams in different ways, but same result. Outstanding job in my book.

i really enjoyed the playoffs and think that it leaves no doubt.

Looking forward to to the offseason discussion here boys!

BOL

 

[DrJimmy]

Albatross, great post and as Big Ten fan I can relate to everything you say. Also live in Utah and witnessed this guy coached the Utes to 12-0 season and he is kick ass game coach. Other idiot coaches need to take note on his going for it on 4th and 1 at midfield either late first or early second half. If you punt to Oregon they probably score so why the fuck bother. Urban always does that and beat Iowa a few years ago on fake punt on his own 20 late in bowl game. Regarding Big Ten, still too many slow white dudes on the shit teams but the Top 4 (OSU, MSU, Wisky and Penn St) will be good for years to come.

 

[WinOne]

Back to Oregon, which we know about the D struggles, the one thing that really stood out to me was the lack of a stud RB like they have had in years past. Just seems like that was the missing piece on this years Duck team. Might be the Oline, but not having a James or Barner seemed to show.....which just put more load on MM.

OSU was hands down the best team by going through the top 2 teams in different ways, but same result. Outstanding job in my book.

i really enjoyed the playoffs and think that it leaves no doubt.

Looking forward to to the offseason discussion here boys!

BOL

I think they've got the RBs. I think because they got down early and their OL was not able to consistently move the OSU front 7 off the line of scrimmage, it made it tougher from the RBs. i also would have thought MM would have kept the ball a bit more. One thing that I think gets overlooked here is that Urban when he took his sabatical from coaching went out and spent a lot of time in Oregon with Chip Kelly and Helfrich. I just wonder if they opened up and gave him too much info about how they run their offense because the Bucks did a great job of defensing it.

 

[MantisToboggan]

Also major props for Oregon to get there having lost:
- Top OL (Johnstone)
- Top CB (Ifo)
- Top TE (Pharoh Brown)
- Top WR (Carrington)

Of note in the game, that first drop where the kid was 35 yards down field, that receiver was replacing WR Carrington who was to Ducks top WR. Drops killed the ducks in the game. Also not being able to bring down Zeke or Cardell. Second series for OSU where they were pinned in their own endzone, Duck had Cardell dead to right but he throws a rope for 30yrd to get a first down on 3rd and 9. Ducks couldn't bring him down in the endzone and could have gotten a stop or a safety on the play. They were both just too physical and ran through tackles to get the yards.

Major props to them and TOSU. Congrats to the Bucks!!

Lost Devon Allen also.

 

[REDEYE]

Addison in spring drills too.... best receiver going into this coming season

 

[rolltide]

bucks why would you give a damn about what people say about oregon? it doesn't lessen the fact that OSU put up 42 on both the #1 and #2 teams in nation and won the title impressively

fact is that Oregon, more times than not, gets stopped when facing big athletic front 7's....LSU, barn, OSU, Stanford...it's just a fact. no different than Bama still not adjusting to read option offenses that can throw the deep ball well. It doesn't make Oregon or Alabama shit teams it just makes us all scratch our heads at why they're not adjusting and why the same thing beats them year after year.

IMO the oregon ship has sailed....they'll never be able to recruit at a high enough level to sustain top 5 because there aren't enough recruits within 250 miles to keep them at that level. Sure they looked great while little ol Stanford was the only Pac12 challenger but with the overall conference getting better coaches and USC getting full scholarships their conference dominance is over.

OSU was absolutely awesome L2 games but plenty of blame can, and should, go on Oregon. They haven't really needed to adapt since UCLA, WASH, USC, Arizona's have been way down and they've only had one truly physical team to deal with each year in the regular season. You'll see Oregon coming back to the pack in the conference starting this season....

 

[REDEYE]

bucks why would you give a damn about what people say about oregon? it doesn't lessen the fact that OSU put up 42 on both the #1 and #2 teams in nation and won the title impressively

fact is that Oregon, more times than not, gets stopped when facing big athletic front 7's....LSU, barn, OSU, Stanford...it's just a fact. no different than Bama still not adjusting to read option offenses that can throw the deep ball well. It doesn't make Oregon or Alabama shit teams it just makes us all scratch our heads at why they're not adjusting and why the same thing beats them year after year.

IMO the oregon ship has sailed....they'll never be able to recruit at a high enough level to sustain top 5 because there aren't enough recruits within 250 miles to keep them at that level. Sure they looked great while little ol Stanford was the only Pac12 challenger but with the overall conference getting better coaches and USC getting full scholarships their conference dominance is over.

OSU was absolutely awesome L2 games but plenty of blame can, and should, go on Oregon. They haven't really needed to adapt since UCLA, WASH, USC, Arizona's have been way down and they've only had one truly physical team to deal with each year in the regular season. You'll see Oregon coming back to the pack in the conference starting this season....

Mich St was a physical team this year... took care of Wisky in Rose 2 years ago.. program is to big now to slide backwards....will we be in championship game every year or playoff ? no.... but do expect to hang in top 10 most years and still make a run at it all from time to time.........every team needs to get better.....even us.....I'm confident it will happen....its unfortunate we lost as many players as we did leading up to the game, maybe things would have been different...Obviously Ohio St going to 3rd QB didn't even matter..

 

[heynow]

Interesting note...Urban spent a week with Chip Kelly at the Eagles training complex in Philly this past summer. Urban claims he walked away with lots of good info.

 

[REDEYE]

I read where other posters mention that we are taking advantage of certain teams being down, specifically USC....Isn't that the case for pretty much all top tier teams ?