This is BSKiller versus Blockbusterbets. I have been in contact with both parties and this is the case from both sides best I can tell. At this point Blockbusterbets has over $7000 of the players money held because they believe he is involved in fraudalent activities. They believe two different accounts playing through them is actually one person behind it - BSKiller. The player of course denies it. Here are the issues involved which lead the book to this conclusion.
The Book's case.....
- The book shows one wager where the two accounts bet opposite sides of the same games, "middling lines" they call it. Also what made them suspicious is these bets were by far the largest of any wagers either of the two accounts had made since playing there.
- The book claims it is the same guy but can't get any IP proof as the player calls in on one of his accounts and only phones on the other. They maintain this is done deliberately as the player is one and the same and this is how he hides the fact that he is operating both accounts from the same computer.
- The book also mentions that this same guy has been involved in about three other cases concerning books and just feels there is something fishy going on here. In fact the person who brought the player to them told the book to be on the look out.
The Player's side......
- As far as the first item betting different sides the player feels that is wrong. First he claims since it is two different accounts what sort of "evidence" is this to take his money? If anyone has a brother or sister and bets the other side of a game does that give the book rights to take your money? He also points out that the two accounts LOST money on the game the book is using as evidence. How can it be a scam? To date this one game is the only game they show that the two accounts have both bet on.
- As far as the IP addy and making the phone calls, the bettor claims again he is making plays over the internet but his brother calls in as his bets are larger. Had he known he had to "prove" anything he would/could use his computer or prove there are two individuals.
McIrish
I posted this as I heard both sdes and thought it would be quicker to get it out. The book does not have time to answer every allegation in the threads, in addition English is not the players first language. I tried to present both sides so we can reach a conclusion. Obviously both of them can come in and make corrections if this is not correct.
For me I spoke with Mike and FWIW he was very professional on the phone. He feels strongly he is right about this but he did not close the door on discussing it. I give him credit for that. He agreed to see what others are thinking so I wanted to post this here. He did not commit to paying this player but he did not rule it out either. This is a serious issue guys and it affects all of us. I hope as posters we can weigh in on what we think here. It is clear this player has had several "disputes" with books in the past but how much can a book use that down the road? Frankly the pure "evidence" is weak to me even though the book could be right, the player(s) was up to no good. What concerns me is any book can read about players who have had disputes and one day seize their account as well based solely on this? For that reason please give us your thoughts, truly I'd like to see the issue resolved fairly one way or another. Thanks.
The Book's case.....
- The book shows one wager where the two accounts bet opposite sides of the same games, "middling lines" they call it. Also what made them suspicious is these bets were by far the largest of any wagers either of the two accounts had made since playing there.
- The book claims it is the same guy but can't get any IP proof as the player calls in on one of his accounts and only phones on the other. They maintain this is done deliberately as the player is one and the same and this is how he hides the fact that he is operating both accounts from the same computer.
- The book also mentions that this same guy has been involved in about three other cases concerning books and just feels there is something fishy going on here. In fact the person who brought the player to them told the book to be on the look out.
The Player's side......
- As far as the first item betting different sides the player feels that is wrong. First he claims since it is two different accounts what sort of "evidence" is this to take his money? If anyone has a brother or sister and bets the other side of a game does that give the book rights to take your money? He also points out that the two accounts LOST money on the game the book is using as evidence. How can it be a scam? To date this one game is the only game they show that the two accounts have both bet on.
- As far as the IP addy and making the phone calls, the bettor claims again he is making plays over the internet but his brother calls in as his bets are larger. Had he known he had to "prove" anything he would/could use his computer or prove there are two individuals.
McIrish
I posted this as I heard both sdes and thought it would be quicker to get it out. The book does not have time to answer every allegation in the threads, in addition English is not the players first language. I tried to present both sides so we can reach a conclusion. Obviously both of them can come in and make corrections if this is not correct.
For me I spoke with Mike and FWIW he was very professional on the phone. He feels strongly he is right about this but he did not close the door on discussing it. I give him credit for that. He agreed to see what others are thinking so I wanted to post this here. He did not commit to paying this player but he did not rule it out either. This is a serious issue guys and it affects all of us. I hope as posters we can weigh in on what we think here. It is clear this player has had several "disputes" with books in the past but how much can a book use that down the road? Frankly the pure "evidence" is weak to me even though the book could be right, the player(s) was up to no good. What concerns me is any book can read about players who have had disputes and one day seize their account as well based solely on this? For that reason please give us your thoughts, truly I'd like to see the issue resolved fairly one way or another. Thanks.
