Play out this hand.....

[ECS]

trying to breath some more life down here......Live casino, I am sitting around 300, we are playing 1-3NL

I get 10cJc and limp in, middle position after 2 limpers in front of me. SB makes it 12 and everyone calls in front of me and of course I call and get 1 caller behind me as well. 5 players in the pot ($60).

Flop is A K Q, rainbow, checked to me, what do you do at this point?


BTW, still need FT cash, will send money first to trusted poster!

 

[Brotherwo]

I would put out a bet, 50% of the pot and hope for a reraise.
-the initial raiser might have trips and all your money goes in good on his raise.
-anyone that has 2 pair will raise you
-someone with a A-7 might call to see what develops

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

Guy behind u raised PF ck it to him and hope he does it again. If he does and unless its very small i just call. i wont somebody to make a flush draw or something on the turn and make the mistake of calling my ck raise on the turn.
Online id try to end it on the flop with a ck raise cus u know the board will pr on the turn and there will be runner runner flush cards on the turn and river....

 

[Brotherwo]

Guy behind u raised PF ck it to him and hope he does it again. If he does and unless its very small i just call. i wont somebody to make a flush draw or something on the turn and make the mistake of calling my ck raise on the turn.
Online id try to end it on the flop with a ck raise cus u know the board will pr on the turn and there will be runner runner flush cards on the turn and river....

i wrote a similiar response until i realized the SB raised, followed by the SB checking on the flop. Must bet, cant rely on the last player to bet

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

Yea i didnt pick that up either. Its tough when u have the deck crushed like here. even a set may fold to any bet. Kinda looks like 1 of those hands u just dont make much money on, bet a lil and likely they all fold, dont bet at all and u may spilt it with somebody. Not much you can do , sometimes here id just make a min bet and more than likely they all fold and u move on. but u do that and the board pairs on the turn and now wat? Ur gonna win a small pot or lose a big one ,so just bet the flop and get it over with..

 

[ECS]

Ok, I checked with the hope of the button trying to "steal" it or maybe even think he was ahead with a weak Ace. He checked as well, the turn was the 5s, putting 2 spades on the board. SB now bets out 25 into a 60 pot, middle position guy calls and the rest fold to me. What do you do here.....

 

[ConansHammer]

All in baby!! You are going to get a caller or two.

 

[Spaded707]

Bet out about half the pot or 35 or so, there are so many fish in live games that you will for sure get someone calling or even raising you with there two pair or AK or something. If no one calls then you still take down the 60 dollar pot easy.

 

[ECS]

Remember, the pot is now at 110 with the bet of 25 and a call. I make it 80 total and hope to get raised by the guy leading out who I put on at least 2 pair and the caller I am thinking spade draw. Now, when the first position guy just calls that puts in 270 in the pot, the flush draw guy has to put in 55 to win 270, giving him the right odds and he calls.

I am thinking I should of made it 100 total, thus putting 210 in the pot and if the first position calls 75 more it makes it 285 in the pot and spade draw has to make a call getting still around 3-1 but I think it makes him think a little bit more about it.

Tough choice on what to bet here, I want to keep people in with the nuts, but would have nobody to blame but myself if the board pairs or spade hits the river.

Whats everyone else's thought

 

[ericcartman]

i would have value bet the flop 50% of pot. if raised flat call and then check raise the turn.

if value bet on flop is called i would value bet the turn at 75% of pot and if raised i would shove with the two spades out.

i hate checking the flop here. not the time for the check raise as i would want to stack the guy not take just a few of his chips.

if it gets to the river i would shove unless there are 3 spades in which case i would value bet and see what happens

 

[ECS]

I agree, looking back I dont like the check of the flop either, although I think it got me a little extra in the end.

The river was a dud and the SB fires out 50, now im like, wtf, this guy has bet, seen me raise and now he fires 50 into a pot of like 300+, so now im 100 percent sure he has either a set or 2 pair and maybe he put me on the spade draw. Now, what can I bet here that he will call and it wont smack him in the face he is beat. I decided to just double his bet and make it 100.

My thought was either A. Maybe he realizes he is beat but has to call 50 more, B. Maybe again he is lost and re raises or C. He thinks he is ahead but decides to play it safe with a call.

I just feel like if I raise to 150 here (he had about 200 behind) that bells go off and he realizes he is beat, I could go all in and make him think I was maybe bluffing, which might not of been a bad idea, I like those 2 options the best, min raise or all in

 

[TheRightSide]

After the flop I would have bet about 25. After the trun I would have raised him to about 60. After the flop when he bet into you I would have put another 75 on top of that. He wouls have to call that. Sometimes it is very hard to get paid off with the nuts. He still might be able to get off the pot. When you limped in that showed him you didn't have big cards. You got a nice price to call after the raise. So that should have set off the bells to him.


Good job and get what ya can.

 

[ECS]

Yea, funny enough, turns out he only had 2 pair, if I saw a guy limp and then call a raise and then raise on the turn, bells would be going off like crazy, I would have to assume that I let him hit a set on the turn or he flopped a straight......what else could of he put me on at that point?

 

[badbeat1015]

Sounds like you played it pretty perfectly, actually. The only thing I might have done differently is bet the flop small. But even if you do that, perhaps the spade draw ahead of you (who only has 3 to a flush right now) folds, and you don't get his extra money on the turn. Depends on your style. Usually I bet with the nuts. That's more because I play aggressive, and am more likely to get called.

 

[ECS]

thanks, that is kind of what I was thinking, I really thought the guy on the button might try to take it, which I might be looking at a raise from the sb and then me maybe floating their as well. The spade draw did put a nice chunk more into the pot, of course I had to sweat the spade, I think I did price him in, not on purpose though, with the sb calling in front he almost had to call. Was lucky for once and ill take it