Pinnacle Matchups

Labeeb · Nov 14, 2004

Record : 6-3
Wagered : $866.00
+/- = +$630.00

Horse Matchups
Hollywood Park
Race 8
Tucked Away vs Cyber Slew

18) Cyber Slew +146

Risking 50.00 to Win 73.00 USD

Labeeb · Nov 16, 2004

Record : 7-3
Wagered : $916.00
+/- = $703.00

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Selection 1 : Horse Matchups
Churchill Downs
Race 9
Bonanza Jellybean vs Victoire Bataille (TURF ONLY)

4) Victoire Bataille +115

Risking 50.00 to Win 57.50 USD <CENTER>---</CENTER></PRE></TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#2b5580 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=540 bgColor=#d0d0d0 border=0 FGCOLOR="#ffffff"><TBODY><TR><TD>

Selection 2 : Horse Matchups
Hollywood Park
Race 8
No Time To Lose vs Freetouch

18) Freetouch +132

Risking 50.00 to Win 66.00 USD <CENTER>---</CENTER></PRE></TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#2b5580 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=540 bgColor=#d0d0d0 border=0 FGCOLOR="#ffffff"><TBODY><TR><TD>

Selection 3 : Horse Matchups
Aqueduct
Race 9
Keesler vs Hurrican Hannah

12) Hurrican Hannah +135

Risking 75.00 to Win 101.25 USD</PRE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>

trytrytry · Nov 17, 2004

two of these have moved big time against us (Meaning betting them now offers a ton more value than when you posted last night) and one has moved big time for us (meaning betting yesterday was the value)

how did you find three that were so volatile? You do make your selections based on the value in the posted line I assume?

Do you try and base these picks on what you think the final odds might be or where you think they might move overnight?

these three just moved so dramatic.

trytrytry · Nov 17, 2004

anyone know how these went today? thanks. can get to the drf.com site.

trytrytry · Nov 17, 2004

2 for 2 so far!!! THANKS a TON!!

check out the price I was able to get on victoire!!! +151!! solid play thanks
again

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Race 9
Bonanza Jellybean vs Victoire Bataille (TURF ONLY)
Victoire Bataille </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Labeeb · Nov 17, 2004

TTT, I never seem to be on the right side of these line moves. Perhaps I should wait until the next day, but I can't always get home for lunch. I look for races where there are live dogs, as you can see. I take into account the price I'm getting, but I can't get a handle on which way the money will come in. The matchup market has to be pretty small and I don't know much about it's composition. When these extra moves come my way, maybe I'll have to take a small piece of the extra dog cash.

Glad you cashed.

I was about to vomit when I saw the prices on the two earlier today.

trytrytry · Nov 17, 2004

are you kidding me 3 for 3. THANKSSSSSS +142 on that last one!!!

<TABLE borderColor=blue width=680 border=0><TBODY><TR class=tableText height=30><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom align=left>Horse Matchups - Hollywood Park - Race 8 -...</TD><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom noWrap align=right>+142</TD><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom noWrap align=right>100.00</TD><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom noWrap align=right> 142.00</TD></TR><TR class="" id=pitcher4><TD class=accountText colSpan=4></TD><TD class=accountText align=left colSpan=4>Hollywood Park
Race 8
No Time To Lose vs Freetouch
Freetouch </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

solidsolidsolid job on these matchups!!!

what do you look for in these? you are very solid at this form of handicapping!!!

Labeeb · Nov 17, 2004

Well I don't feel as bad on that price. Only a $10 difference.

I look at a combination of speed figure patterns, weight carried, ground loss and the price offered as my primary handicapping methodolgies. Obviously I look at other things like surface changes, stretchouts/turnbacks, trainer changes, track/circuit changes.

I'll be taking a look at tomorrows matchups a little later tonight. I've just got to find the key to getting the juicer prices.

Glad I could help you to a decent day.

trytrytry · Nov 17, 2004

your work is outstanding. keep the focus and thanks for sharing!!

I played all of them last night at the prices you had

today when I saw the better prices I jumped on those two that went our way for the extra.

trytrytry · Nov 17, 2004

my only hint to predicting the money line is also try and handicap as best you can what the odds of the two horses in the matchups will be going off at. What odds to you thnk the public will bet each horse down to. The pinny odds tend to migrate towards the final odds. not always but usually. Then if you think that you have value play based on the current money line bet it right away, if you think that the final odds of the horses will push the matchup the other way, then wait a bit and get the better price.

Labeeb · Nov 17, 2004

Record : 10-3
Wagered : $1091.00
+/- = $927.25

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Selection 1 : Horse Matchups
Churchill Downs
Race 7
Autopscot vs J.D. Cat

26) J.D. Cat +125

Risking 100.00 to Win 125.00 USD <CENTER>---</CENTER></PRE></TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#2b5580 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=540 bgColor=#d0d0d0 border=0 FGCOLOR="#ffffff"><TBODY><TR><TD>

Selection 2 : Horse Matchups
Hollywood Park
Race 6
Silver Miracle vs Vivian

36) Vivian +116

Risking 50.00 to Win 58.00 USD <CENTER>---</CENTER></PRE></TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#2b5580 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=540 bgColor=#d0d0d0 border=0 FGCOLOR="#ffffff"><TBODY><TR><TD>

Selection 3 : Horse Matchups
Aqueduct
Race 8
Saint Stephen vs Holy Panache ( TURF ONLY )

22) Holy Panache +111

Risking 100.00 to Win 111.00 USD </PRE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>

trytrytry · Nov 17, 2004

Get on these plays guys!

Im on them the lines have all come down some this guy is hitting at great %%%% right now and most are underdogs!! finds the live Dogs!

good luck!

Labeeb · Nov 17, 2004

Now the pressure is on. An official endorsement from TTT. You know what happens now...

Plus the lines have come down? That's not good.

trytrytry · Nov 17, 2004

LaBeeb your fine. Ill take back what I said..... lets just try to get 2 ot of 3 if possible but whatever happens is the nature of the game!!

trytrytry · Nov 17, 2004

lines have come down means you are likley on some overlays when you bet them always good. you can middle them later if they shoot down more.

either that or you have a sudden huge following here at the RX

this is as good as the Soccer forum right now!!

Labeeb · Nov 18, 2004

I know why the lines are coming down, I was just kidding around. Middling doesn't really do much for me. Especially not at these dollar amounts.

No following here. Only the same 10 people or so that frequent the room judging by the views.

trytrytry · Nov 18, 2004

you have 103 views already on this. people know you are working hard on these. Results speak. Those are unique views 103 different user names. 1/2 of them Bet it in my estimate. you have a following!

Labeeb · Nov 18, 2004

TTT, thanks for explaining the "views" thing. You've been around much longer than me. I thought it was just everytime someone viewed it, regardless of whether it was unique or not.

2-1 today. Not bad. I'll do the math and post tomorrow's action (if any) later tonight.

Hope you had a good day.

G.MONEY · Nov 18, 2004

2-1 ON THE DAY....JUST ANOTHER WINNING DAY...WELL DONE...:banger:

trytrytry · Nov 18, 2004

2-1 Baby!

Glad I did not curse you!

keep this stuff upupup

and you have a RX following. just keep doing what you are doing, dont think you have to make money for anyone. use your selection criterias and post your thoughts. dont force anything. take a day off anytime, have fun with these. that is my advise. but yes after you post you will now see the Pinny lines goin your favor in most cases as people get a little something on your picks. Plus your horses are live underdogs to start and others might notice that as well.