Pinnacle is the consensus top book....

[MadCapper]

...but can any book out there now rival it (striking distance)?

...is pinnacle the best book for the average player ($50-200 on games)?

...is pinnacle the best book for just the big time players?

...what book would you recommend to players just starting offshore?

-MC

 

[lakerfan]

...is pinnacle the best book for the average player ($50-200 on games)?

...what book would you recommend to players just starting offshore?

With both questions I would vote for canbet. Reduced juice without strong opinions. On sides you always get -107.

 

[MadCapper]

Lakerfan - Thanx for the feedback!

-MC

 

[Fishhead]

Betworks possibly

 

[miaplus3]

If you bet straight plays & allways have access to a computer (like when on vacation & spending the day away) then pinnacle is a good bet. otherwise they become very ordinary

 

[PanchoSanza]

For baseball, Cascade and GRANDE come very close to Pinnacle in my opinion.

 

[jjgold]

There will be rivals to Pinnacle in the future at the Aussie shops and some offshores and BetPanam are lowering the juice.

The questions is the shops that do not lower juice will they be left in the dust??? Yes they will!!

 

[Brock Landers]

And again, if you like to do parleys in college football WITHOUT the option of buying a single point or using a moneyline, then its Fabulous!

 

[vinividivinci]

I do not believe Pinnacle wants anything to do with the smaller players. Here is an example.

Just prior to the NFL playoffs last year Pinnacle had a prop bet up that I wanted to play. In order to take advantage of their offer of a 10% bonus and pickup of Western Union fees, it was necessary to send a dime minimum.

So I went to local Western Union, wired a dime, and several hours later checked my account. Balance was approx $970. I sent an e-mail (they do not like you to call) inquiring about fees and bonus, got e-mail back saying you have to send a dime net.

After several e-mails back and forth, they reluctantly agreed to pay fee and give me bonus. I got the distinct impression I was some sort of bother to them.

My advice to the $25 - $200 players is to fund three accounts offshore and have 1 or 2 locals. Stay away from the megashops like Pinnacle. Betworks, BHB, Gamblers Avenue, Skybook and others all seem to cater to a wider variety of players.


VVV

p.s. I guess I should say that if you are a dime or more per game player, and don't need to feel as if your action is appreciated, Pinnacle is a rock solid out. You do not need to worry about your money being safe.

 

[MadCapper]

Great post VVV!

-MC

 

[miaplus3]

They do seem to think they are beyond having to promote themselves

 

[lander]

Good post VVV.

I think it's slightly deeper than that. If your a low bettor then the best book for you depends on your betting style. If you play mostly favs, then a sharp book like Grande, Pinnacle, Cascase will save you a lot in vig. If you are a dog player then you can't go wrong at a place like VIP or Wagerstreet.

If you are completely random - I'd go with VIP. They love the square. They have a nice variety of lines. They pickup fees. They have a loyalty program.

Just depends on your betting style IMO.

 

[vinividivinci]

Lander

Good points as well. I specifically mentioned the ones I did because I have played at each of them and had very favorable experiences in every aspect. Those you mentioned are excellent options as well.


VVV

 

[PO69]

Nothing special about pinnacle at all when you are betting parlays. You get stuck with -110 juice on parlays, so there is no benefit.

I actually have stopped playing at pinnacle because of this

And they dont offer good propostion bets on NFL at ALL!!!!!


Cant parlay tennis matches, ETC!!

 

[MadCapper]

You can hardly parlay any different sports together at Pinnacle!! I hate that!

-MC

 

[Jazz]

That's why diversication = gratification is a good rule to follow, for more than just one reason