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Disclaimer: I am a Patriots fan. But I've been able to watch this team develop and mature.

Four things happened before the season that would prove to be harbingers of things to come.

The first was the draft. The Patriots scored bigly in the draft -

Four offensive starters - Will Campbell, Jared Wilson, Treyveon Henderson, Jack Westover. Two more guys who will have minor roles today - Kyle Williams, and Efton Chism.

And two guys on Defense who will start today - Craig Woodson, and Elijah Ponder.

The second was free agency - four starters on Offense - Stephon Diggs, Mack Hollins, Garrett Bradbury, and Morgan Moses.

And six guys on Defense - Khris Tonga, Milton Williams, Harold Landry (Injured being replaced by Elijah Ponder), Robert Spillane (injured sharing time with another offseason signing - Jack Gibbons, K'Laveon Chaisson, and Carlton Davis.

That's a ton of new faces at the core of this team! You don't know them? Of course you don't.

Thirdly - as the preseason wore down Vrabel cut two guys who raised eyebrows around here because they were amongst last year's best - Kyle Duggar, and Jabril Peppers. This was the final tipoff that Vrabel was remoulding this team with his kind of players.

Fourthly - as the season was about to kickoff it was announced that Defensive Coordinator, Terrell Williams had been diagnosed with cancer and he would be unable to fulfill the role he was hired for. Step in Zack Kuhr? Who? Yea the guy who has been responsible for developing a Defense that has allowed only three offensive touchdowns in the first three Playoff games is a guy nobody ever heard of.

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So this is who the Patriots are. A bunch of rookies and castoffs who wanted to play the game the way Mike Vrabel wanted them to play. The perception is that they are a bunch of who's thats. But the reality is they have been molded to be winners by Vrabel and his coaching staff.

And don't forget the lynchpin - I know in the playoffs he hasn't played up to his regular season rave but he's a kid in his second year who played his college football in the arm weather south. So the perception that many of you have as he's struggled to maintain accuracy in these cold weather Playoff games is that he is way overrated. Well today he is back in that warm weather. Watch out!

And finally a misperception about the Seattle Defense. Maye just got sacked five times in each of his three playoff games. That was by three of the best pass rushes in the NFL. But today he faces a pass rush that has only 10 sacks in their last 7 games (I always consider recency). Maye won't be fumbling today. And he will have the time to find his downfield targets - you know one of the two most important stats that he led the NFL YPP at 8.9; and accuracy at 72%.

Thought you might want to know the Patriots before you lay your money down.

I'll be on the Pats +5 -111 (Pinnacle now)

Buona Fortuna
 

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M. Angelo....thank you for the added info buddy...
here's to a solid win.....
BOL with all your Sun. action.....indy
 

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Mich NE is like my Bears. Good coaching & free agents that helped propel the team to wins.
I'm on NE small wager only.
GL and thanks for the great write-up.
 

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Very good in depth analysis Mic.
But I dint see any weakness listed on Seattle.?
But lets not forget they won 2of3 playoff games on 7 turnovers.
I hope you cover, Im on the ML.
BOL today
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Nice write up. As a big Seattle fan i could see Seattle falling short or this staying within the number easily .

Good luck to us both.

Should be a great game.
 

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I wish you good luck.....next year!
IMHO: One year too soon for Maye.
 

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Disclaimer: I am a Patriots fan. But I've been able to watch this team develop and mature.

Four things happened before the season that would prove to be harbingers of things to come.

The first was the draft. The Patriots scored bigly in the draft -

Four offensive starters - Will Campbell, Jared Wilson, Treyveon Henderson, Jack Westover. Two more guys who will have minor roles today - Kyle Williams, and Efton Chism.

And two guys on Defense who will start today - Craig Woodson, and Elijah Ponder.

The second was free agency - four starters on Offense - Stephon Diggs, Mack Hollins, Garrett Bradbury, and Morgan Moses.

And six guys on Defense - Khris Tonga, Milton Williams, Harold Landry (Injured being replaced by Elijah Ponder), Robert Spillane (injured sharing time with another offseason signing - Jack Gibbons, K'Laveon Chaisson, and Carlton Davis.

That's a ton of new faces at the core of this team! You don't know them? Of course you don't.

Thirdly - as the preseason wore down Vrabel cut two guys who raised eyebrows around here because they were amongst last year's best - Kyle Duggar, and Jabril Peppers. This was the final tipoff that Vrabel was remoulding this team with his kind of players.

Fourthly - as the season was about to kickoff it was announced that Defensive Coordinator, Terrell Williams had been diagnosed with cancer and he would be unable to fulfill the role he was hired for. Step in Zack Kuhr? Who? Yea the guy who has been responsible for developing a Defense that has allowed only three offensive touchdowns in the first three Playoff games is a guy nobody ever heard of.

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So this is who the Patriots are. A bunch of rookies and castoffs who wanted to play the game the way Mike Vrabel wanted them to play. The perception is that they are a bunch of who's thats. But the reality is they have been molded to be winners by Vrabel and his coaching staff.

And don't forget the lynchpin - I know in the playoffs he hasn't played up to his regular season rave but he's a kid in his second year who played his college football in the arm weather south. So the perception that many of you have as he's struggled to maintain accuracy in these cold weather Playoff games is that he is way overrated. Well today he is back in that warm weather. Watch out!

And finally a misperception about the Seattle Defense. Maye just got sacked five times in each of his three playoff games. That was by three of the best pass rushes in the NFL. But today he faces a pass rush that has only 10 sacks in their last 7 games (I always consider recency). Maye won't be fumbling today. And he will have the time to find his downfield targets - you know one of the two most important stats that he led the NFL YPP at 8.9; and accuracy at 72%.

Thought you might want to know the Patriots before you lay your money down.

I'll be on the Pats +5 -111 (Pinnacle now)

Buona Fortuna
Good Luck Today and I’m with you GoPats
 

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Excellent summary. I am also hoping that a lot of the national sports talk about how SEA is the better team will motivate NE. NE is being disrespected by a lot of people. This is their chance to step up & prove they belong.
 

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Excellent write up, michy. I rooted for your Pats after Burrow went down again, because I think Vrabel deserved it. He’s one of the very few people I like that came from the Buckeyes. Excellent coach, and a great person. I however took Seattle on the ML like many others. We both could come out winners. Your team had an amazing season, you should be very pleased,sir.. BOL tonight..
 

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Michelangelo, that write up is a piece of art, well done my friend. Let’s finish it with a W for the Pats… or at least a cover..!!!!!!!
 

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One outlying stat that should be considered...Mayes passer rating over the last three is in the mid 80s...he hasn't been great thus far in the post season.

Seattle will force him to use those legs.
 
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One outlying stat that should be considered...Mayes passer rating over the last three is in the mid 80s...he hasn't been great thus far in the post season.

Seattle will force him to use those legs.
To be fair, he was playing in terrible weather in both games, and none of the QB's involved in those games did anything whatsoever. I doubt Darnold or any other QB would have played very well.

Yes, I'm a Drake Maye homer since he's a Tar Heel.
 

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To be fair, he was playing in terrible weather in both games, and none of the QB's involved in those games did anything whatsoever. I doubt Darnold or any other QB would have played very well.

Yes, I'm a Drake Maye homer since he's a Tar Heel.
Don't get me wrong..i think he's fantastic.
Key to Seattle's game is closing him down.

Good luck!
 

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Disclaimer: I am a Patriots fan. But I've been able to watch this team develop and mature.

Four things happened before the season that would prove to be harbingers of things to come.

The first was the draft. The Patriots scored bigly in the draft -

Four offensive starters - Will Campbell, Jared Wilson, Treyveon Henderson, Jack Westover. Two more guys who will have minor roles today - Kyle Williams, and Efton Chism.

And two guys on Defense who will start today - Craig Woodson, and Elijah Ponder.

The second was free agency - four starters on Offense - Stephon Diggs, Mack Hollins, Garrett Bradbury, and Morgan Moses.

And six guys on Defense - Khris Tonga, Milton Williams, Harold Landry (Injured being replaced by Elijah Ponder), Robert Spillane (injured sharing time with another offseason signing - Jack Gibbons, K'Laveon Chaisson, and Carlton Davis.

That's a ton of new faces at the core of this team! You don't know them? Of course you don't.

Thirdly - as the preseason wore down Vrabel cut two guys who raised eyebrows around here because they were amongst last year's best - Kyle Duggar, and Jabril Peppers. This was the final tipoff that Vrabel was remoulding this team with his kind of players.

Fourthly - as the season was about to kickoff it was announced that Defensive Coordinator, Terrell Williams had been diagnosed with cancer and he would be unable to fulfill the role he was hired for. Step in Zack Kuhr? Who? Yea the guy who has been responsible for developing a Defense that has allowed only three offensive touchdowns in the first three Playoff games is a guy nobody ever heard of.

////

So this is who the Patriots are. A bunch of rookies and castoffs who wanted to play the game the way Mike Vrabel wanted them to play. The perception is that they are a bunch of who's thats. But the reality is they have been molded to be winners by Vrabel and his coaching staff.

And don't forget the lynchpin - I know in the playoffs he hasn't played up to his regular season rave but he's a kid in his second year who played his college football in the arm weather south. So the perception that many of you have as he's struggled to maintain accuracy in these cold weather Playoff games is that he is way overrated. Well today he is back in that warm weather. Watch out!

And finally a misperception about the Seattle Defense. Maye just got sacked five times in each of his three playoff games. That was by three of the best pass rushes in the NFL. But today he faces a pass rush that has only 10 sacks in their last 7 games (I always consider recency). Maye won't be fumbling today. And he will have the time to find his downfield targets - you know one of the two most important stats that he led the NFL YPP at 8.9; and accuracy at 72%.

Thought you might want to know the Patriots before you lay your money down.

I'll be on the Pats +5 -111 (Pinnacle now)

Buona Fortuna
Gracia Michel
 

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