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Some object to Obama speech to students

By GARY SCHARRER and ERICKA MELLON Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle

Sept. 2, 2009, 8:05PM



Some Texas parents are asking school principals to excuse their children from listening to a speech that President Barack Obama will make to schools next week on the grounds that it smacks of political indoctrination.
Obama will deliver an address directly to students on the importance of education beginning at 11 a.m. (CST) Tuesday.
“The president will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning,” Education Secretary Arne Duncan wrote in an Aug. 26 letter to school principals.
Critics of the president are using the Internet to build opposition and encourage parents to request their children not be forced to listen.
“I think it's inappropriate because it smacks of political indoctrination of the worst kind,” said Brett Curtis, a parent of two children attending Pearland ISD schools. “It's not just a speech. It's a specific curriculum to go along with the speech directly from the president of the United States without review.”
Schools are getting a menu of classroom activities for students, according to the education secretary, designed by teachers “to help engage students and stimulate discussion on the importance of education in their lives.”
Curtis said he would instruct his children to boycott the speech as “a general protest. I know that's going on around the country.”
Most Houston-area school districts will let principals and teachers decide whether to show Obama's speech. Some district leaders raised concerns about interrupting already scheduled lessons, while others said students need to hear the president's expected message of personal responsibility for learning.
Some parents have threatened to keep their children home for the day.
“I just don't see how this would be an indoctrination technique,” said Alief school board president Sarah Wink*ler, who also is president-elect of the Texas Association of School Boards. “It sounds to me like these are all things we try to teach our kids. We want them to work hard and pay attention and do the best they can.”
The Alief district, like Lamar Consolidated, plans to record the speech for interested teachers to show later.
Parents can opt out

The Houston Independent School District has directed principals to give parents a heads-up if they are planning lessons around Obama's speech so parents can opt out their children. Other districts said they would excuse students, though not all plan to send home notes in advance.
“We're not stopping instruction for it,” said Clear Creek ISD spokeswoman Elaina Polsen, “but if it's in line with what's being taught either on Sept. 8th or down the road, teachers may use it.”
Pasadena school officials said they are working to ensure that all schools can access the online broadcast of Obama's speech if they want.
In 1989, President George H.W. Bush used a nationally televised speech to schoolchildren to push an anti-drug campaign.
“It is not uncommon for students to watch a presidential speech that is given during the school day,” said Debbie Ratcliffe, spokeswoman for the Texas Education Agency. “This situation is somewhat different in that this speech apparently will be directed to students. But each district can decide how best to handle it for their community.”
Children pulled out of school for the day will cost districts about $35 per child, as state funding for schools is based on daily attendance.
State Board of Education member David Bradley, R-Beaumont, said he objected to the federal Department of Education taking classroom time away from local schools. The speech may be innocuous, Bradley said, “but look at the follow-up activities.”
“Under Texas statute, parents have the right to review all instructional materials. They also have the right to opt out their kids from any program they might object to,” he said, citing sex education as an example.
State Board of Education member Barbara Cargill, R-The Woodlands, said parents have complained to her about the speech taking up valuable classroom instruction time.
One parent told her the president's speech “obligates the youngest children in our public school system to agree with Obama's initiatives or be ostracized by their teachers and classmates,” and does not allow for healthy debate.
‘Wild-eyed paranoia'

President Obama's speech does have its defenders.
“It's hard to imagine anything more ridiculous than attacking the president of the United States for talking to students about the importance of getting a good education and being a good citizen,” said Kathy Miller, president of the Texas Freedom Network, which monitors public education in Texas.
“I wish our elected leaders were responsible enough to denounce this kind of wild-eyed paranoia,” Miller said. “But the problem is too many of them are actually feeding this kind of nonsense — like when the governor flirts with secessionists and State Board of Education members say the president sympathizes with terrorists.”
 

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to be honest with you, I didn't need Obama to raise my kids, so I would opt out.

I'd bribe my kids by taking them to Six Flags

who the fuck does he think he is? if he wants to be some baby's daddy, he should have started in the South Side of Chicago.
 
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My kids will never have to listen to that bullshit propaganda, as they
will never set foot in a public school.

At least not until college.
 

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All the rest of their lives they can say "I had a chance to be addressed by the president of the United States of America but my parents were so narrow minded that they made me stay home".
 

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I bet if Bush Jr. wanted to come to their school and read my pet goat he would be welcomed with open arms.
 
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All the rest of their lives they can say "I had a chance to be addressed by the president of the United States of America but my parents were so narrow minded that they made me stay home".

If I want my kids to listen to the lies of a crook, I'll take them to the local jail.
 

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All the rest of their lives they can say "I had a chance to be addressed by the president of the United States of America but my parents were so narrow minded that they made me stay home".

well henry kissinger addressed my graduating class and I could not have been more disgusted by it...but then again I can actually think for myself unlike these kids or, say, punter
 

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Liberal Brainwashing: Obama Indoctrination Day on Tuesday
Thursday, September 3, 2009, 03:12 PM
The Only Home-school Dad on a Modern-Day Presidential Ticket Lambasts Obama For Policies That Condemn Minority Students to Failing Public Schools.

Root Calls Public School System “a Public Embarassment.”

Studies Prove That Home-schooled Students are Almost TWICE As Smart as Public School Students.

Will Teachers Unions Allow Honest Questions to Be Asked of President Obama?

By Wayne Allyn Root, Author
The Conscience of a Libertarian: Empowering the Citizen Revolution with God, Guns, Gambling & Tax Cuts

Government fails at virtually everything it does. As a Nevadan, I often tell the story of the federal government taking over a legal brothel in Nevada- a $100,000,000 business- and managing it into bankruptcy in a year. Just days ago, the State of New York announced that OTB- government run gambling parlors- was filing for bankruptcy. Amazing. The two businesses where no one on earth has ever lost money- sex and gambling- and government runs them both into bankruptcy.

Is it any wonder that our public education system is a disaster? That after spending tens of billions, SAT scores are going down? That the performance gap between white/Asian and minority students is widening? That minority student drop-out rates in major cities approaches or exceeds 50%? That the more we spend on public education, the worse the results? That a recent study proves that home-schooled students are almost twice as smart aspublic school students (scoring 89 versus 50 on a scale of 1 to 100)? Yet in the face of these shocking and depressing facts, President Obama and the Democratic Congress chose to kill a charter school program that was working for minority students in Washington D.C.

It has just been announced that President Obama will address public school students across the USA on Tuesday. I’ll bet the topics I just described above won’t be on the agenda. Instead what we’ll see is an attempt to brainwash young minds into hero worship of Barack Obama and his big government agenda.

But I have a great idea. We can turn lemons into lemonade. Instead of asking students how they can help President Obama (thereby becoming his deputies, allies, and fans), how about we use this opportunity to ask some serious questions that need to be answered by the President. Here is the Q&A with President Obama (and the homework assignment) that I’d suggest for America’s public school students:

Q: President Obama, why did you allow the Democratic Congress to kill school choice in Washington DC, even though studies proved that charter schools were dramatically improving the education results of minority students?

Q: President Obama, do you care about teachers unions (your campaign contributors) more than the educational and economic future of minority students?

Q: President Obama, why do your daughters Sasha and Malia deserve school choice (a private school education costing $40,000 a year each), when other minority students in Washington D.C. don’t get a choice?

Q: Mr. President, if public school education is so fantastic that you don’t believe choice or competition is necessary, why don’t you send your precious daughters to Washington D.C. public schools?

Q: Mr. President, if other parents don’t have the money for private school, like you and Michelle do, should their children be condemned to a lifetime of inferior education?

Q: Mr. President, did you see the latest SAT test scores which show that after a 25 year effort to improve scores, we have failed miserably? We’ve spent tens of billions per year, yet SAT scores went down again. What do you think this means? Why would taxpayers be forced to spend more on the same failing public education system? Shouldn’t competition be encouraged to improve the system?

Q: Mr. President, those same just-released SAT test scores showed that despite spending tens of billions of dollars to help minority students improve test scores, the SAT performance gap between minority students and white/Asian students just widened again. So do you think public school education is a failure? Knowing this, why would you and the Democratic Congress choose to kill charter school programs in Washington DC that are helping minority students? Doesn’t this appear racist?


Q: Mr. President, is it true that Chicago cooked the books? Studies show that Chicago’s public schools are terrible, among the worst in America, and prior studies showing improvement were greatly exaggerated. So why is your friend Arnie Duncan, who ran the Chicago School System, now running America’s school system?

Q: Mr. President, recent studies proved that home-school educated children are almost TWICE as smart as public school educated children. Why do you think that is Mr. President? With results like this, shouldn’t home-schooling be encouraged by our educators, instead of denigrated and discouraged?

Q: Mr. President, we spend more money on public school children than any country in the world, yet get among the worst results. Why do you think that is? Could it be because teachers unions are doing the same damage to public education that auto unions did to the U.S. auto industry?

Q: Mr. President, how come California pays the highest teacher salaries in America, but their test results are 49th out of 50 states? Is it therefore possible that spending more on education, and paying teachers more, does not add up to better results? If so, why did you just spend another $125 billion of the stimulus package on public education? If $60 billion per year spent by the Department of Education has produced failing results, why would you spend another $125 billion?

Q: Mr. President, how come private and parochial school teachers are paid far less than public school teachers, without gigantic pensions and free healthcare for life (paid on the taxpayers’ dime), but produce far better results?

Q: Mr. President, how come the rankings of America’s students have gone consistently and dramatically down since the day government took over education?

Q: Mr. President, how come we don’t fire poorly performing teachers? Why should a teacher doing a poor job be guaranteed a job and pension for life?

Q: Mr. President, in the private sector, employees are losing jobs by the millions. Almost everyone else in the private sector is seeing major cuts in hours and pay. Virtually no employees in the private sector are seeing any increase in pay. So why should government employees union members- like teachers- be protected from firings and receive large pay increases? Are they a privileged class?

Q: Mr. President, is it true that public school districts around the country claim to be severely underfunded, yet they are spending millions of dollars on public relations and advertising campaigns to increase enrollment (because parents are leaving failing public schools in droves)?


Q: How come you’re so concerned with rising health care costs in the private sector, but rising government-run education costs don’t seem to bother you? And how can government-run healthcare save money for taxpayers, when government-run education keeps rising and at the same time produces inferior results?

Those are just a few of the questions I’d have our publicschool students ask President Obama. I think the President of the United States addressing our youth is a good idea. But only if he’ll choose to honestly allow and answer the serious questions above. Only if the questions and questioners aren’t “pre-screened.” Only if he’s willing to admit that our national education crisis is just as important as our national healthcare crisis.

Only if President Obama is willing to question the role of teachers unions in the destruction of public education. Only if he is willing to explain what appears to be either indifference, or racism on his part towards the plight of minority students in this country (who don’t have the money required to attend fancy private schools like Sasha and Malia). The President should have this discussion with America’s public school students.

I’m a betting man. My gut instincts tell me the smart money is on America’s liberal-biased teachers never allowing the questions above. I’m betting that as long as teachers unions are in control, there will never be an open or honest discussion between our President and America’s public school students. I’m betting this event on Tuesday will be used to indoctrinate our children into hero worship for the President, big government, big unions, and public education. Anyone want to take my bet?


Wayne Allyn Root was the 2008 Libertarian Vice Presidential candidate. His new book is entitled, “The Conscience of a Libertarian: Empowering the Citizen Revolution with God, Guns, Gambling & Tax Cuts.” For more of Wayne’s views, commentaries, or to watch his many national media appearances, please visit his web site at: www.ROOTforAmerica.com.
 

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I would have allowed mine to listen to Richard Nixon, and a worse crook you could not find.
 

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hey, you have to remember that some people actually believe the POTUS impacts their day to day lives, gets them jobs and even pay raises.

Of course they want him to parent their children too, after all, "it takes a village".

You see, I think it takes good parenting to raise children and teach them to stay in school, others think it's the president's job.

How cute

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Can't remember tricky Dick making himself available to school children, however.
 

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hey, you have to remember that some people actually believe the POTUS impacts their day to day lives, gets them jobs and even pay raises.

Of course they want him to parent their children too, after all, "it takes a village".

You see, I think it takes good parenting to raise children and teach them to stay in school, others think it's the president's job.

How cute

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Charles Schultz (peanuts) addressed us once. Dont think anyone thought of it as "parenting". I have remembered that ever since. Obviously.
 

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I bet if Bush Jr. wanted to come to their school and read my pet goat he would be welcomed with open arms.

Also a handy place to hide out in case the nation is attacked

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I would have allowed mine to listen to Richard Nixon, and a worse crook you could not find.

All three of my kids were in elementary/junior high during the Clinton years. No problemo having them listen to him.

Would never have opted out even if it was the big wimp Ronald Reagan.
 

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Back in my day, the big television feeds were reserved for NASA space launches

And a couple times, cool teachers who would tap into the feed for World Series.
 

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Reagan and Bush 1 both did similar addresses.

Amazing...we're in 2 wars and suddenly it's ok to badmouth everything the POTUS says or does. When did that change?

Seems like just a short few years ago you'd be labelled as someone who emboldened our enemies for acting this way.
Change? Stayed the same, didn't it?:ohno:
 

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I bet if Bush Jr. wanted to come to their school and read my pet goat he would be welcomed with open arms.

Funny part is something similar did happen and a few democrats (like now with pubs) made a stink of it. As long as the speech has ZERO partisan shit, I think it's great for these kids to hear the POTUS no matter who it is. He removed a few lines of the curriculum that was controversial and will release the full speech online 24 hours prior for all parents and teachers to read. The partisanship in this country is out of hand, if Obama farts at least 40% of the population will have a problem with it now.




From NBC's Mark Murray
... the more they stay the same, we guess.

As it turns out, a controversy over a president giving an education speech to students isn't new.

One, George H.W. Bush gave a speech to students back in 1991. And two, Democrats criticized him for it.

From the Washington Post on Oct. 4, 1991 (hat tip to KY3 and our friends at Hotline):

White House press secretary Marlin Fitzwater came armed to the lectern top yesterday to rebut complaints that the president used taxpayer money for a political event to promote himself as the education president.

Democrats are complaining that the $26,750 paid by the Education Department to a private media firm to produce television coverage of Bush's speech to students on education Tuesday was improperly used. The television performance was broadcast live by CNN and other stations around the nation could pick it up by satellite.

Not that the White House is sensitive about the issue, but Fitzwater said that if the White House instead had sent a letter to only 86,000 of the nation's 4.6 million schoolchildren, it would have cost more. The TV show was just another way to get the president's message out, Fitzwater said, and cynical journalists should get with the new technology.

Wouldn't the film make good campaign commercials, Fitzwater was asked. "We certainly would use any tape of the president, doing anything, anywhere in the world at any time if it was to his political benefit," Fitzwater agreed.
 

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of course, if Bush 41 and / or Ronnie talked to school children in this fashion, far fewer people would be aware of it because of the internet.

However, I had to research what happened. Needles to say, neither event was anything near what this President is doing this month.

If this President wants to help kids stay in school, this President should be talking to his inner city parents and social system abusers that are the primary cause of students dropping out. The poor parenting parents that helped put him in power. To me, this is a fruitless exercise designed to win brownie points by those so easily molded.

Reagen had a Q & A session with a few middle school classes that was subsequently broadcast on C-Span.

Bush 41 participated in a Q @ A call in conjunction with a National Space Science Symposium.

Neither event was a call to all schools throughout the nation to tune in to a LIVE SPEECH by the President in the middle of their school day.

Of course many other Presidents have occasionally entered individual classrooms, maybe all of them. Once again, big, big, big difference.

If the community organizer couldn't improve the drop out rate in the south side of Chicago, it's obvious his shallow liberal style ain't going to work for the country. Once again, he's simply not addressing the real issue. The man of no substance just doing his thing.

BTW, the graduation rate in Chicago was and continues to be in the low 50s. Good work there Obama.:103631605
 

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