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<nyt_headline version="1.0" type=" "> Disclosures on Palin Raise Questions on Vetting Process </nyt_headline>

<nyt_byline version="1.0" type=" "> </nyt_byline>By ELISABETH BUMILLER


<nyt_text> </nyt_text> ST. PAUL — A series of disclosures about Gov. Sarah Palin, Senator John McCain’s choice as running mate, called into question on Monday how thoroughly Mr. McCain had examined her background before putting her on the Republican presidential ticket.
On Monday morning, Ms. Palin and her husband, Todd, issued a statement saying that their 17-year-old unmarried daughter, Bristol, was five months pregnant and that she intended to marry the father.
Among other less attention-grabbing news of the day: it was learned that Ms. Palin now has a private lawyer in a legislative ethics investigation in Alaska into whether she abused her power in dismissing the state’s public safety commissioner; that she was a member for two years in the 1990s of the Alaska Independence Party, which has at times sought a vote on whether the state should secede; and that Mr. Palin was arrested 22 years ago on a drunken-driving charge.
Aides to Mr. McCain said they had a team on the ground in Alaska now to look more thoroughly into Ms. Palin’s background. A Republican with ties to the campaign said the team assigned to vet Ms. Palin in Alaska had not arrived there until Thursday, a day before Mr. McCain stunned the political world with his vice-presidential choice. The campaign was still calling Republican operatives as late as Sunday night asking them to go to Alaska to deal with the unexpected candidacy of Ms. Palin. Although the McCain campaign said that Mr. McCain had known about Bristol Palin’s pregnancy before he asked her mother to join him on the ticket and that he did not consider it disqualifying, top aides were vague on Monday about how and when he had learned of the pregnancy, and from whom. While there was no sign that her formal nomination this week was in jeopardy, the questions swirling around Ms. Palin on the first day of the Republican National Convention, already disrupted by Hurricane Gustav, brought anxiety to Republicans who worried that Democrats would use the selection of Ms. Palin to question Mr. McCain’s judgment and his ability to make crucial decisions. At the least, Republicans close to the campaign said it was increasingly apparent that Ms. Palin had been selected as Mr. McCain’s running mate with more haste than McCain advisers initially described. Up until midweek last week, some 48 to 72 hours before Mr. McCain introduced Ms. Palin at a Friday rally in Dayton, Ohio, Mr. McCain was still holding out the hope that he could choose a good friend, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, independent of Connecticut, a Republican close to the campaign said. Mr. McCain had also been interested in another favorite, former Gov. Tom Ridge of Pennsylvania.
But both men favor abortion rights, anathema to the Christian conservatives who make up a crucial base of the Republican Party. As word leaked out that Mr. McCain was seriously considering the men, the campaign was bombarded by outrage from influential conservatives who predicted an explosive floor fight at the convention and vowed rejection of Mr. Ridge or Mr. Lieberman by the delegates.
Perhaps more important, several Republicans said, Mr. McCain was getting advice that if he did not do something to shake up the race, his campaign would be stuck on a potentially losing trajectory.
With time running out — and as Mr. McCain discarded two safer choices, Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, as too predictable — he turned to Ms. Palin. He had his first face-to-face interview with her on Thursday and offered her the job moments later. Advisers to Mr. Pawlenty and another of the finalists on Mr. McCain’s list described an intensive vetting process for those candidates that lasted one to two months.
They didn’t seriously consider her until four or five days from the time she was picked, before she was asked, maybe the Thursday or Friday before,” said a Republican close to the campaign. “This was really kind of rushed at the end, because John didn’t get what he wanted. He wanted to do Joe or Ridge.”
In the final stages, two Republicans familiar with the process said, Mr. McCain’s campaign manager, Rick Davis, emerged as a key advocate for Ms. Palin. Mr. McCain’s advisers said repeatedly on Monday that Ms. Palin was “thoroughly vetted,” a process that would have included a review of all financial and legal records as well as a criminal background check. A McCain aide said that the campaign was well aware of the ethics investigation and that it had looked into it.
“It was obviously something that anybody Googling Sarah Palin knew was in the news and there was a very thorough vetting done on that and also on the daughter,” the aide said.
People familiar with the process said Ms. Palin had responded to a standard form with more than 70 questions. Although The Washington Post quoted advisers to Mr. McCain on Sunday as saying Ms. Palin had been subjected to an F.B.I. background check, an F.B.I. official said Monday the bureau did not vet potential candidates and had not known of her selection until it was made public.
Mark Salter, Mr. McCain’s closest adviser, said in an e-mail message that Ms. Palin had been interviewed by Arthur B. Culvahouse Jr., a veteran Washington lawyer in charge of the vice-presidential vetting process for Mr. McCain, as well as by other lawyers who worked for Mr. Culvahouse. Mr. Salter did not respond to an e-mail message asking if Ms. Palin had told Mr. Culvahouse and his lawyers that her daughter was pregnant.
In Alaska, several state leaders and local officials said they knew of no efforts by the McCain campaign to find out more information about Ms. Palin before the announcement of her selection. Although campaigns are typically discreet when they make inquiries into potential running mates, officials in Alaska said Monday they thought it was peculiar that no one in the state had the slightest hint that Ms. Palin might be under consideration.
“They didn’t speak to anyone in the Legislature, they didn’t speak to anyone in the business community,” said Lyda Green, the State Senate president, who lives in Wasilla, where Ms. Palin served as mayor.
Representative Gail Phillips, a Republican and former speaker of the State House, said the widespread surprise in Alaska when Ms. Palin was named to the ticket made her wonder how intensively the McCain campaign had vetted her.
“I started calling around and asking, and I have not been able to find one person that was called,” Ms. Phillips said. “I called 30 to 40 people, political leaders, business leaders, community leaders. Not one of them had heard. Alaska is a very small community, we know people all over, but I haven’t found anybody who was asked anything.”
The current mayor of Wasilla, Dianne M. Keller, said she had not heard of any efforts to look into Ms. Palin’s background. And Randy Ruedrich, the state Republican Party chairman, said he knew nothing of any vetting that had been conducted.
State Senator Hollis French, a Democrat who is directing the ethics investigation, said that no one asked him about the allegations. “I heard not a word, not a single contact,” he said.
A number of Republicans said the McCain campaign had to some degree tied its hands in its effort to keep the selection process so secret.
“If you really want it to be a surprise, the circle of people that you’re going to allow to know about it is going to be small, and that’s just the nature of it,” said Dan Bartlett, a former counselor to President Bush.
Former McCain strategists disagreed on whether it would have been useful for Ms. Palin’s name to have been more publicly floated before her selection so that issues like the trooper investigation and her daughter’s pregnancy might have already been aired and not seemed so new at the time of her announcement.
“It’s a risk,” said Dan Schnur, a former McCain aide who now directs the Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics at the University of Southern California. “No matter how great the candidate, it’s a significant risk to put someone on the ticket” who hasn’t been publicly scrutinized.
“They obviously felt it was worth the risk to rev up the base and potentially reach out to Clinton supporters,” Mr. Schnur said.
<nyt_author_id></nyt_author_id>Reporting was contributed by Kate Zernike, Jim Rutenberg and Peter Baker in St. Paul, and Serge F. Kovaleski in Juneau, Alaska.

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This is not about Sarah Palin. This is about John McCain. He is basically an impulsive gambler, plus a hothead. A fine trait for an RX'er, not so great for POTUS.
 

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I started calling around and asking, and I have not been able to find one person that was called,” Ms. Phillips said. “I called 30 to 40 people, political leaders, business leaders, community leaders. Not one of them had heard. Alaska is a very small community, we know people all over, but I haven’t found anybody who was asked anything.



=desparation move .........that really blew up his chipmunk cheek face today
 

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I'll add some fuel to the fire for fun.......

The Federal Bureau of Investigation did not participate in the vetting of Gov. Sarah Palin and did not conduct a background check as part of the process, an FBI spokesman said today.

The Washington Post reported Sunday, citing an interview with campaign manager Rick Davis, that the vetting process "included reviews of financial and other personal data, an FBI background check and considerable discussion among the handful of McCain advisers involved in the deliberations.

"In general, we do not do vetting for political campaigns except as it might regard investigations needed for security clearances," said John Miller, the chief FBI spokesperson.

The FBI did not participate in a vet, nor did it run a background check of Gov. Palin as part of the process.

Palin might already have a clearance that relates to her duties as governor. But the FBI can't speak to that, and in any event, those investigations wouldn't be accessible to the McCain campaign anyway.
 

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I mean, this is just unreal. If you'[re going to choose someone who is virtually completely unknown you have to do an even wider vetting process to really get to know everything because there isn't as much in the public domain. Here's what I can tell for sure that they did:
1. McCain met with her for 15 minutes in February
2. They googled her to see what came up
3. They went to Alaska on Thursday and McCain met her on Thursday and popped the question.

Bottom line, she was on the hardly likely token vetting list until last week and they made an impulsive decision when they finally decided that they couldn't go Lieberman or Ridge because of the right-wing.

McCain's first test and he failed miserably.
 

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I mean, this is just unreal. If you'[re going to choose someone who is virtually completely unknown you have to do an even wider vetting process to really get to know everything because there isn't as much in the public domain. Here's what I can tell for sure that they did:
1. McCain met with her for 15 minutes in February
2. They googled her to see what came up
3. They went to Alaska on Thursday and McCain met her on Thursday and popped the question.

Bottom line, she was on the hardly likely token vetting list until last week and they made an impulsive decision when they finally decided that they couldn't go Lieberman or Ridge because of the right-wing.

McCain's first test and he failed miserably.
OBAMAS speech had them worried........and this is how they knee-jerked it........comedy gold..........as my friend jeff jones says.....you cant make this up
 

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yup the "maverick" shoulda been a man and stood up to the republican establishment and taken one of his guys lieberman or ridge

instead he wilted like a little child and now he's stuck with this mess

has little to do with obama.....tarter...has to do with the infighting within the GOP many republicans will be voting mccain while puking......and woulda done moreso and more likely gone 3rd party if he took lieberman or ridge
 

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Ponder this.

Whether or not the pregnancy is an issue you guys can discuss but if she was fully vetted....why the hell did he only find out about the pregnancy sometime last week?

I mean if they did their proper research they would've found out right.

After all it was an open secret in the hometown....Surely if you were choosing someone unknown you'd interview some neighbors and friends in the town....Shit they do that for government jobs....you'd think for VP

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837862,00.html?xid=rss-topstories


His name is Levi.

That's about the only thing that I didn't know about Bristol Palin's pregnancy. The rest of the details I picked up almost without trying, while talking about other things with townsfolk — some who know the governor and her family well, some who don't. It was, more or less, an open secret. And everyone was saying the same thing: the governor's 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, the father is her boyfriend, and it's really nobody's business beyond that
 

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His name is Levi.


levistep?
 

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Palin VP is down to 96.5 at Intrade. Might be a good sell. Although I think it expires at the convention once she's nominated. I think it's 50/50 that she makes it to Nov. 4 though.
 

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I hate to break this to the libs gloating over the Sarah Palin pick, but Obama wouldn't pass a security clearance.

Just count your lucky stars senators and presidents are exempt from this process because if they weren't and Obama won, he would not be sworn in next Jan.

Sarah Palin was thoroughly vetted and will make a fine VP.
 

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Will surely put the RX on the map now
we already were...OBAMAS and mccains camp i assume check here regularily to see what 50 bonus whoring burnouts have to say:aktion033
 

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no way mccain changes D2....or i'd be shocked if they did

will show BIG TIME weakness....

this story will blow over with your run of the mill voter....

nobody paying attention
 

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no way mccain changes

will show big time weakness

this story will blow over with your run of the mill voter

nobody paying attention

Of course not. He wouldn't change it himself. She would withdraw and blame liberal bloggers.
 

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no way mccain changes

will show big time weakness

this story will blow over with your run of the mill voter

nobody paying attention
maybe.....more like todays hurricane i suspect........gone but not forgotten
 

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no way mccain changes

will show big time weakness

this story will blow over with your run of the mill voter

nobody paying attention


Couldn't have better timing...labor day, hurricane, RNC convention drowns it out the rest of the week.

Only drawback is this is going to be their first introduction to Palin...she's a blank slate that I think the pubs were hoping to define her at the convention before anyone else had a chance to.
 

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LOL all 3 libbies respond at once...

comedy gold

great point D2...didn't think about that....
 

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LOL all 3 libbies respond at once...

comedy gold

great point D2...didn't think about that....
not a libbie a dem........get your crystal ball tuned up
 

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