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Let's use this thread to post news from fall camp... any significant developments... etc.

This is big. It goes to ASU's ability to sustain a ground game and ESPECIALLY to pass protection for Rudy Carpenter. (They were sack city last year.) Huge loss on a pretty thin OL to begin with.

TEMPE, Ariz. -- Arizona State offensive tackle Richard Tuitu'u, who finished spring practices No. 1 on the depth chart, has quit the team.
The Sun Devils offensive line lost three starters from a unit that gave up 55 sacks a year ago, and the position is a huge concern as preseason practices start Monday. Tuitu'u was the only returning lineman with experience at tackle. He played in 19 games in two seasons, with one start.
Redshirt freshman Adam Tello, listed at 283 pounds, now moves up on the depth chart.
Coach Dennis Erickson called Tello a good pass blocker.
"I feel good about him," he said.
 

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Wow! UGA is going to eat up this OL if they don't get their sh*t together!

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Let's use this thread to post news from fall camp... any significant developments... etc.

This is big. It goes to ASU's ability to sustain a ground game and ESPECIALLY to pass protection for Rudy Carpenter. (They were sack city last year.) Huge loss on a pretty thin OL to begin with.

TEMPE, Ariz. -- Arizona State offensive tackle Richard Tuitu'u, who finished spring practices No. 1 on the depth chart, has quit the team.
The Sun Devils offensive line lost three starters from a unit that gave up 55 sacks a year ago, and the position is a huge concern as preseason practices start Monday. Tuitu'u was the only returning lineman with experience at tackle. He played in 19 games in two seasons, with one start.
Redshirt freshman Adam Tello, listed at 283 pounds, now moves up on the depth chart.
Coach Dennis Erickson called Tello a good pass blocker.
"I feel good about him," he said.

This isn't as big a deal as it seams. The guy was getting pushed and didn't look like he would get the start. He was part of the problem last year. The line will still have issues early. Changing the offense to more 4 receiver sets and quick drops will help.

Is it August 30th yet?
 

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I had no idea ASU was so weak on the O-line. I love betting against teams that can't keep guys out of the back field!!!
 

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Cal's closed practices make information pretty scarce...

But at least one of the Cal writers has a bead on another "no-name" skill position player.... kind of a boring read but at least there's a little light shed on the subject here.

Two Bears, One Back: Shane Vereen

Shane Vereen Sat and Watched as Cal Slumped In 2007-Today He's Ready to Take the Field

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By Andrew Kim
Daily Cal Staff Writer
Sunday, August 3, 2008 | 11:18 pm


Shane Vereen has probably had enough.
A celebrated four-star recruit in 2007, the then-freshman found himself tagged with a redshirt, buried under Cal's crowded depth chart and the shadow of fellow prep-star Jahvid Best, as slim as it may have previously been.
Denying yourself of something you've done your entire life isn't easy, but Vereen did it for more than a year. Today, the soft-spoken runner has just about had it with the waiting.
"Sitting out for a reason, redshirting, made me a lot hungrier for the game, a lot more passionate and appreciative of what we're blessed to do here on the field," says Vereen. "It's driven me to work harder than I have ever before."
Understandably, Vereen says this past season was hard to watch from the sidelines, initially for the fact that he wasn't allowed to play a single snap.
But sitting out as the team posted five straight wins out the gates was one thing. Being reduced to a bystander while his teammates were reduced to mediocrity was another, bringing about just as much helplessness as frustration in Vereen.
"It was tough to watch," he says. "It was especially tough because there's nothing you can really do about it. For me, I was kind of helpless because I wasn't playing. You can tell just by watching, the toll that (the 2-6 finish) took on the rest of the team and the guys that were playing."
Slated to split carries in 2008, Vereen will finally get what he wished for, a hiked share of the burden.
With the departures of Justin Forsett and James Montgomery, the next big thing in the Bears' backfield could be just about anyone. Even rookie Covaughn DeBoskie, who may redshirt as he fills out his big-body frame, described the camp situation as a "big battle zone."
From the incumbent trio of Vereen, Best and the rumbling Tracy Slocum, any one of the three could emerge as the next fan favorite. Or the next 1000-yard runner.
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"I'm ready for whatever changes may come," Vereen says. "I'm still gonna be the same person. I'm not gonna change because I might be playing or whatnot. I'll still be the same, it's just that maybe people will know me now, that's all."
With a disposition that's as steady as they come, Vereen leaves little room to suggest that his on-field production will contradict his persona. If the coaching staff is to be believed, perhaps his play will be a bit more electric than his speech.
"I think the guy you're gonna be impressed with is Shane Vereen," coach Jeff Tedford announced to a table of Pac-10 media members. "He's very natural playing at the receiver spot, he can play in the slot, you can move him all around and do some things."
Vereen fits the bill quite well as a Cal running back -- a joker off the field, a class act on it and most importantly, a constant exhibitor of humility throughout.
The humble attitude shared by the Bears tailbacks "makes it real easy to associate and call them teammates," says Vereen.
Even when Best is often the one wowing their teammates in practice.
"There's no negativity, no greed or no envy of each other," he says. "When I see him making a play, I'm like, 'OK, now I want to make a good play as well,' you know," says Vereen. "We use each other as motivation for each other, to drive one another just to be better players."
Off the field, however, Best concedes that Vereen is the better player judging from the times -- which is every day, according to Best -- they've spent together.
"Shane's a ladies man," says Best. "He might seem kind of quiet just like me, but Shane can get the talkin'."
The rest of us, meanwhile, will have to wait to see how big of a heartthrob Vereen can be on Saturdays -- though he might impress just as many men.
 

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More on Cal... (this is a better read)

Cal football: Training camp preview

Posted by Jon Wilner on August 4th, 2008 at 7:55 am | Categorized as Cal, Jeff Tedford, Pac-10 football
I caught up with all three head coaches last Monday at Bay Area media day. True to their personalities, Stanford’s Jim Harbaugh and SJSU’s Dick Tomey were visibly excited about the season. You could see it in their eyes and hear it in their voice.
Cal’s Jeff Tedford was not as outwardly stoked, in keeping with his lower-key nature. But you have to think he’s been counting the seconds until the Bears take the field and begin trying to erase the bad taste of what happened in ‘07.
Today’s the day. Cal opens camp at Memorial Stadium (a closed practice, as usual) with a bevy of questions to answer before the season opener Aug. 30 vs. Michigan State.
Here’s my to-do list for the Bears, and I’m NOT including the quarterback competition between Nate Longshore and Kevin Riley — not including it because I don’t think there’s any chance it will be resolved in camp.
My sense is that both QBs will play in the opener and possibly in every game thereafter. Tedford might go ahead and rotate them throughout the season based on situations and matchups.
So here are the non-QB items for Cal’s camp:
*** Learn the 3-4 defense.
Bob Gregory began installing the 3-4 alignment in spring ball, so it’s not entirely new. And it certainly suits the personnel, which is heavy on experience linebackers and light on above-average defensive linemen (everyone in the Pac-10 is always light on above-average defensive linemen, except maybe USC).
But a new system takes time to install: the coaches must figure out how to best use their personnel, while the players must learn their assignments to the point that they don’t need to think — they can just react.
That’s Cal’s goal: no thinking on Aug. 30, just reacting.
*** Make sure Tedford and Cignetti are on the same page
Tedford hired Frank Cignetti, the former 49ers qurterbacks coach, as his playcaller. They have similar philosophies, according to Tedford, and have had eight months to talk through the playbook and personnel.
Tedford plans to chime in but will leave the majority of the playcalling duties to Cignetti. But now is the time to make sure everything’s copacetic.
*** Find a power back
Based on Tedford’s comments, Jahvid Best is healthy and ready to be the starting tailback. He’s a gamebreker, for sure, with that awesome speed.
But the ability to break one from anywhere on the field is not enough. To compete for the conference title, the Bears must convert short-yardage situations by running between the tackles.
They must have a power running game.
Is the 193-pound Best capable of picking up power yards against USC or Oregon State on the road in November, when there are six minutes left and the Bears need a first down?
Or will that role fall to Tracy Slocum, or Shane Vereen, or maybe Will Ta’ufo’ou, the 250-something-pound fullback.
*** Get LB Worrell Williams in the right frame of mind
I think Williams is the key to the defense, and that would be the case whether Cal was playing a 4-3 or 3-4.
Williams moved inside in ‘07 and, in my opinion, played poorly down the stretch — as did so many of his teammates. When he wasn’t out of position, he was simply not making plays.
This season, as an inside LB in the 3-4, as a senior, as one of the most experienced and talented players on the defense, Williams must take and maintain a leadership role. He must set an example on the field and in the lockerroom.
That process started during winter conditioning and continued through spring ball (Gregory spoke very highly of Williams after the final April practice) and the summer workouts. But the next four weeks are critical for Williams, and for the defense.
*** Secure the offensive line
The Bears are set at center, obviously, with Alex Mack, and they should be fine at right guard (Noris Malele). But there are questions about the other three spots:
Is Mike Tepper ready for the demands of left tackle, which is more important than right tackle (his position last season) because of the QB’s blind side.
The new right tackle, Chet Teofilo, has one career start, and the projected starter at left guard, Mark Boskovich, was primarily a special teams player in ‘07.
The Bears have talented underclassmen at each spot, and they might need them.
*** Identify a primary receiver
I wouldn’t call this a crucial issue for training camp, but it’s important.
It’s important because of the huge void at the position — Robert Jordan, Lavelle Hawkins and DeSean Jackson combined for 184 receptions last season — and because having a go-to wideout helps everyone.
It helps the quarterback feel more secure, and it forces the defense to focus on one player, thus creating opportunities elsewhere.
The top-four receivers on the summer depth chart had a combined four catches last season, and all were by LaReylle Cunningham.
There’s no shortage of size, which should help the Bears in short-yardage situations — not only passing situations but running, because big WRs can block the perimeter and create outside lanes for the tailbacks.
But when it’s third-and-five against Michigan State, where is Longshore/Riley going with the ball?
 

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Wow there's a lot of material to sift through here...

I'm looking at ESPN's Pac-10 blog at the moment... but I've C&P'd this because the material changes twice a day... I figured this one to be pretty important as well as the article following on the blog page link above.

More on the ASU offensive line and their quarterback protection problems (which seems destined to be a carryover this season.)

Like Hagar, Hargis, Sun Devils can't survive 55
August 4, 2008 7:34 PM
Posted by ESPN.com's Ted Miller
TEMPE, Ariz. -- While it might be a stretch to call him jolly, Arizona State offensive tackle Jon Hargis gives every indication of being a certifiably nice guy.
He's polite and humble. He dutifully laughs when reporters think they are being witty.
But there's a scab on every Sun Devils offensive lineman that's been relentlessly picked at by fans and media for nearly a year, and a flicker of annoyance flashes across Hargis' face when the 4,178th rephrasing of the question screeches past his eardrums and again pokes the wound.
"Why did you guys give up 55 sacks in 2007?"
Or, "After losing three starters, are you guys going to be able to protect quarterback Rudy Carpenter this year?"
Or, "How's it feel that everyone thinks you offensive linemen are the lone -- and glaring -- weak link for the nation's 16th-ranked team?"
Replies Hargis, "I think enough has already been said but until we actually prove ourselves on the line -- no more sacks given up -- everyone is going to keep saying, 'These guys are average.'"
For some folks, average would be a charitable assessment.
Second-year coach Dennis Erickson has defended his line -- repeatedly and without cloaking all of his irritation over the redundant but mostly unavoidable line of questioning.
He's noted that Carpenter frequently held the ball too long. He's pointed out that the offense last year relied too much on play-action passes with seven-step drops that took too long to develop. He's insisted that the line didn't get sufficient help from the tight ends and running backs.
But he knows that most believe his linemen were just getting whipped.
If the line underperforms in 2008, the Sun Devils won't approach another 10-win season, not with this schedule.
"I'm excited about our offensive front, but it's an area that's young," Erickson said. "That's probably the biggest question we have."
It didn't help that projected starting right tackle Richard Tuitu'u decided to quit football. Unless Erickson decides to shuffle personnel, that means 283-pound redshirt freshman Adam Tello becomes a starter.
Of course, Hargis, a sophomore, isn't much older or more experienced than Tello. This time last year, he was a defensive lineman.
Now he's protecting Carpenter's blind side.
Hargis struggled at times during the spring when the transition was made, but things started to click over the final few practices. Following a summer of working on his technique and further digesting the playbook, the 6-foot-4, 310-pound native of Mesa, Ariz., now says he's glad he made the position switch.
"Ultimately, it could be a career for me," he said.
While he wasn't part of the struggles in 2007, Hargis feels his linemates' pain. Mostly because he has to talk about it as much as them.
What about those 55 sacks?
"No one has to say 55 sacks to us to get us motivated," he said.
How's the memory of those 55 sacks?
"We have a sour taste in our mouths," he said.
Any danger of you guys giving up 55 sacks again?
"Everyone is tired of hearing the same old thing," Hargis said. "I think it's gotten kind of old to some of us. We kind of know what's going to be asked. And, as I said, we can't put it to rest until we actually are on the field not giving up sacks, protecting Rudy."
He's right. That's the only way to change the subject.
 

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For a team lacking depth, the news about Savannah is not good.



August 4, 2008 1:54 PM

Media day notes, Savannah academically ineligible

Posted by Bob Condotta


UW coach Tyrone Willingham met with the media for about 30 minutes or so today, then players also met with reporters for a while as the team kicked off the beginning of the season. The first practice will begin at 3:45 p.m. and will be open to the media.

Here are a few quick news and notes from the media session:

--- Willingham said that E.J. Savannah is academically ineligible but that there are also some other issues, saying that "when that is cured, we will at that time talk about his status with the team.'' Savannah is also still recovering from a broken humerus bone, and Willingham said he wouldn't be able to play right now, anyway. Willingham said he wouldn't give specifics on the other issues with Savannah but that "the parties involved know what they are.'' He labeled Savannah's suspension as "indefinite'' and that there is no timetable for his return. "Sometimes these things can change over night and sometimes they may be forever,'' he said. Willingham said the team's three starting LBs heading into practice are Donald Butler, Mason Foster and Josh Gage.

--- Willingham did not go into detail on any of the freshmen but said all are academic-related. Interestingly, the team has 101 players right now and can have no more than 105 this season. There are currently five players facing academic issues still apparently trying to get onto the roster for this season, meaning UW coaches may already be counting one of them out. Besides Savannah, the other four are freshmen Craig Noble, Demitrius Bronson, Senio Kelemete and Vince Taylor.

--- Willingham said the the recovery for Juan Garcia has gone as well as hoped so far but that it now takes on a different level with the start of practice. He said he didn't know when Garcia would be able to return to practice or when he might be able to play, saying the team would be "cautious'' with him.

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You get the impression that UW (and UCLA too) would be just as well off recruiting a couple of cattle knockers from a nearby slaughterhouse to play OL. They couldn't be any worse off than they are now (experience-wise.) It probably won't make much difference to Locker anyway. He'll just end up scrambling for 1000+ yards because he's a survivor. Now if he can just bring his TD/INT ratio up a little.

Oooops. I think I just let UW's offensive playbook out of the bag.

As far as UW's defense goes.... well it's all up to their new DC Donnatell. I think he'll beat last years defense pretty easily... but then again 438 yards per game is a pretty soft target.
 

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Let's use this thread to post news from fall camp... any significant developments... etc.

This is big. It goes to ASU's ability to sustain a ground game and ESPECIALLY to pass protection for Rudy Carpenter. (They were sack city last year.) Huge loss on a pretty thin OL to begin with.

TEMPE, Ariz. -- Arizona State offensive tackle Richard Tuitu'u, who finished spring practices No. 1 on the depth chart, has quit the team.
The Sun Devils offensive line lost three starters from a unit that gave up 55 sacks a year ago, and the position is a huge concern as preseason practices start Monday. Tuitu'u was the only returning lineman with experience at tackle. He played in 19 games in two seasons, with one start.
Redshirt freshman Adam Tello, listed at 283 pounds, now moves up on the depth chart.
Coach Dennis Erickson called Tello a good pass blocker.
"I feel good about him," he said.
Wow, they truly were awful last year to watch up front. The offensive line seemed to tumbled with any speed on the side on the edge. They have a talented back to help them out of some trouble but I would think losing anything else on that slim line would be devastating.

Can Rudy Carpenter help this team in the Pac-10?
 

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I just want to add one thing about ASU's OL. Whether starting with a clean slate of fresh players will be better or not is debatable. That's saying something you don't hear often.

ASU's poor OL performance last season didn't matter much anyway unless you happen to be Rudy Carpenter. Somehow he survived it in spite and they did manage to beat everyone they were supposed to beat last year (thanks to a scrappy defense.) But they routinely blew it when confronted with better quality opposition... in a generic sense, a team like Georgia. At least the game is in Phoenix. I think the Sun Devils may have an advantage at the coaching position... FWIW.
 

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Zona'a defense surprises...

A lot of reports on several new guys playing defense in the Wildcat practices, impressing everyone to the point where Stoops is praising his CB's and DB's, several of them, so they appear to be moving in the right direction with added depth.

For that matter, their defense has been playing so well in practice that people are starting to question whether or not their offense is got their sh*t together. I think Tuitama will be fine, especially since some new (and returning) WR's are also looking very impressive.

It would be interesting to follow these new developments about Zona's defense. Their experience might not be enough yet to make them a strong and well balanced team but they are going to cover some lines with ease compared to normal expectations, for example laying 27 to Idaho looks much more doable with a defense that can force a few more 3 and outs compared to last year.

I'm not sure how well they will be able to defense the run, but there's plenty of time left in fall camp to gauge what to expect. I think their defense will be improved compared to last season. That may or may not win very many more games and we are far from talking about "desert storm" but I think it will pay off at the window.

I don't think it's just about Zona's offense anymore. They will match up better vs more teams defensively, and it will take a better and faster offense to beat them compared to last year.
 

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A lot of reports on several new guys playing defense in the Wildcat practices, impressing everyone to the point where Stoops is praising his CB's and DB's, several of them, so they appear to be moving in the right direction with added depth.

For that matter, their defense has been playing so well in practice that people are starting to question whether or not their offense is got their sh*t together. I think Tuitama will be fine, especially since some new (and returning) WR's are also looking very impressive.

It would be interesting to follow these new developments about Zona's defense. Their experience might not be enough yet to make them a strong and well balanced team but they are going to cover some lines with ease compared to normal expectations, for example laying 27 to Idaho looks much more doable with a defense that can force a few more 3 and outs compared to last year.

I'm not sure how well they will be able to defense the run, but there's plenty of time left in fall camp to gauge what to expect. I think their defense will be improved compared to last season. That may or may not win very many more games and we are far from talking about "desert storm" but I think it will pay off at the window.

I don't think it's just about Zona's offense anymore. They will match up better vs more teams defensively, and it will take a better and faster offense to beat them compared to last year.

Just got back from vacation and have been catching up. I have AZ pegged for a bowl game this year and it is encouraging to see this on the D.
 

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Welcome back UoD.

I've been studying the blogs constantly and there have been a few interesting developments around the conference. Very tough getting anything out of Stanford with Harbaugh keeping practices closed to the public. UW has not been easy either but some sportswriters have been getting in and that makes the Dawgs a little less difficult to keep up with.

This page is worth checking up on twice a day, mornings and evenings with lots of news coming in from around the Pac. Plenty of links too for all the teams.

You have to wade through a lot of "coachspeak" in some cases (such as UCLA) perhaps reading some between the lines, noting what they (the coaches) don't say. UW's unwelcomed injuries and ineligible players... etc.

One thing interesting about the Beavers is that Moevao seems to be distancing himself from Canfield on the practice field. OL coming along but a few precarious situations still exist such as Perry's injury has improved but not enough, Cavenaugh rotating the OL's etc. DL's and LB's looking good with new guys stepping in to fill in some depth on defense but remaining issues filling up the spots on their OL's right side. Good play from their skill position players. Ducks also making headway at WR. Blah blah... too many little things to list here.

Enjoy the blog link.
 

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Thx,
I check the blogs as well. Just about every day. Good stuff. Easy to see why papers are canning their reporters.


Sportsradio is abuzz today about an injury to Jake Locker. Apparently he tweaked his hamstring and will be out for 3-5 days.

This is not a good thing as hammy's have a way of not getting better for a looong time. Even worse if you are a QB with a sub .500 completion percentage...
 

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Thx,
I check the blogs as well. Just about every day. Good stuff. Easy to see why papers are canning their reporters.


Sportsradio is abuzz today about an injury to Jake Locker. Apparently he tweaked his hamstring and will be out for 3-5 days.

This is not a good thing as hammy's have a way of not getting better for a looong time. Even worse if you are a QB with a sub .500 completion percentage...

It's great to be 20 years old. He'll get over it.
If not, TW should just start packing.

How'd you like that "Best Case Scenario and Worst Case Scenario" piece Ted Miller wrote about the Ducks in that blog. Funny stuff.
 

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Loved it.

Sanchez could be toast. P10 qb's going to be a raw group this year...
 

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Great to see you back here Pags.
BOL 2U this year too.
 

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