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5-3-1 ATS PAC-10 GAME OF THE WEEK

4-1 ATS Last Week, 32-22 For the Year all lined PAC 10 Games

Oregon was easy money last week…so was UCLA and USC. Dear Washington State…thank you for the safety at the end of the game…The betting gods were with me.

GAME OF THE WEEK (WEEK 9)

WASHINGTON -1.5 VS OREGON

Wow….WOW…I’m posting this early because this is either the easiest money play all year…or the biggest sucker bet trap game in Pac 10 history.

OK, Oregon beat Stanford up last week. Yep, they beat the worst team in the Pac-10, the worst passing team in the Pac-10, in front of the home crowd. And Washington got worked for the second straight home gane against...well against the best team in the country right now.

I saw this line coming out at maybe UW -7 or -8, and would not at all have been surprised to see -10. I still rub my eyes when I see -1.5.

A little history about this game. The Pac-10 is divided between north and south. And while Oregon and Washington play in-state rivals every year, there is no bigger rivalry in the Pac 10 than Oregon v. Washington. USC – UCLA…that’s not a heated rivalry, these guys go have drinks with each other after the game because they are friends and neighbors. Stanford – Cal….com’on now, that is a battle to see who can outdo the other in science class.

Oregon and Washington HATE each other. The coaches hate each other. The players hate each other. It is war. It is Alabama/Tenessee, Ohio State/Michigan, Miami/Florida State.

Let’s break out the history books and see where this rivalry began. In the 1990’s Oregon became a player on the national scene, while their in-state rival Oregon State continued to flounder. Oregon, loaded with a wad of cash from Phil Knights pocketbook, began to dominate the Pac 10, overtaking Washington as the powerhouse of the Northwest. From 1994 to 1998, Oregon won 4 of 5 vs. Washington, two of which were played in Husky Stadium. Oregon went on to become a household name and was basking in the limelight, while Washington became an afterthought.

But instead of starting a proud and respectable tradition, Oregon...players, coaches, and fans alike became perhaps the biggest shit-talking, bad-mouthing team in the country. Their success went straight to their head. They think themselves royalty.

Then the hurricane that was the 2002 season hit, and everyone that could take it out on them did. And as you can see in 2003, teams that can beat them, continue to beat them bad, as did Washington State…as did Arizona State…as will Washington.

Since 1999, Washington has won two of three vs. Oregon, including a 42-14 whipping at Oregon last year. Interestingly, that game was played two games after Oregon beat Stanford by 25 at home.

Washington has an incredible home record, going 48-12 prior to this year. So far in 2003 their home record is 3-2, and it is very rare for Washington to lose more than two games a year at home.

How ‘bout some technical stuff. Over the course of the 2003 season, Oregon has better offensive numbers than Washington, except in passing yards per game. Defensively, the teams are fairly close, with Washington holding a slight edge on total yards per game. But statistics are certainly misleading. For instance, look at Oregon’s scoring defense against teams with winning records in the Pac 10. They are giving up an average of 57 points per game, while their offense has managed a mere 15 ppg. So when you mix in two wins against hapless Stanford and Arizona, the season average comes into balance. Now let’s look at Washington. Their scoring defense against winning teams (UCLA, USC, Oregon State) in the Pac 10 averages 35 ppg. They averaged 26 ppg on offense in these games.

Now, as I’ve harped on the past three weeks here, the way you beat Oregon is to pass the ball. They simply have the worst secondary in the Pac 10. Washington can pass the ball, as Pickett and Williams are one of the best pass-catch combinations in the Pac 10. If you look at Oregon’s offense against solid defenses (Washington State, Utah, even ASU), the output is feeble. Washington has a solid defense.

My only concern in this game is injuries and coaching. Washington RB Alexis and WR Frederick are questionable, and TE Toledo is out. Frederick is a playmaker, the other two are replaceable. As for coaching, big edge to Belotti. Some coaches outsmart themselves with the word “balance”, one that Fat Keith Gilbertson preaches. Keith, sit down and have a lesson with Dirk Koetter, who’s ASU team was struggling going into the Oregon game three weeks ago…Pass the ball downfield and you win by 40. Oregon coach Mike Belotti is a mastermind, and he could keep this a close game. But believe me, if Belotti was coaching Washington, he would never call a run play against his own team.

Washington played their hearts out against Oregon State and won. They played their hearts out against USC and, well, USC is just an incredible football team. I think Washington comes out fired up and lays the wood to Oregon again, similar to last year. The level of competition between last week in this week is a couple rungs down the ladder.

Final Score: Washington 42 – Oregon 14

The rest of the Pac 10 slate.

I really like the games in the Pac AGAIN this week and will be betting three heavily.

Oregon State has the worst quarterback in Div-1 football. If the opposing team has any semblance of a defense, he will throw at least three pics. However, when they play bad teams, he plays adequately enough to let the rest of his team pummel the opponent. Such is the case this week, as Arizona will get their annual ass-whooping from OSU. OSU has beaten Arizona 4-straight, with an average score of 36 – 5. This year should be no different. Look for Steven Jackson to rush for 200+ and the OSU defense to take it out on Arizona.

USC is on track and, since the Cal game, has averaged 42 ppg. After WSU’s emotional win vs. Oregon State, don’t see this team coming in hitting on all cylinders, and quite frankly, their QB has two sore shoulders and might not finish the game after being sacked a couple times by USC’s ferocious D. USC wins by 20.

UCLA is flying under the national radar and should cover this week against a Stanford team that is going backwards. UCLA is the far superior team here and should dominate, at least defensively. This should be a low scoring game.

Arizona State hosts Cal this week. If Andrew Walter’s plays, they should win…if he doesn’t would not be surprised if Cal covers.


Final Predictions:
OSU - 22 vs. Arizona: OSU 38 – Arizona 3
USC – 11 vs. WSU: USC 38 – WSU 17
UCLA – 6 at Stanford: UCLA 21 – Stanford 10
ASU vs. Cal: No Line…no prediction

Good luck all
 

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WC,

Love your stuff -- a madatory read for me.

Thought I would pass along some thoughts on the Oregon/UW game, being that I am from Seattle and have serious reservations about jumping on the Husky bandwagon this weekend.

First, I think last week's game against USC may have been more important to the kids up here than alot of people realize -- I believe the Dawgs felt like they had alot to prove and really, really wanted to put up a great showing against USC...but, as you know, USC simply manhandled the Dawgs. I know its early in the week yet, but they are hanging their heads and have really taken their performance badly -- instead of talking about the upcoming Oregon game, they are still moping about USC -- to me, this is a bad sign.

Second, you are 100% correct about how this game has turned into one of the best rivalries around..Last year the Dawgs kicked the crap out of the Ducks in Eugene and proceeded to celebrate for 20 minutes on the field prior to heading to the locker-room..among other things, a number of Husky players stomped on the "O" at mid-field....Belotti has and will continue to remind his players of this throughout the week -- I wouldn't be surprised if they will be watching a video of celebration prior to Saturday. I have a feeling that the Ducks come into this one with a big emotional advantage.

From an injury standpoint, word is that Husky tailback Rich Alexis will be able to go on Saturday. Those familiar with the program probably view this as a negative. Coach Gilbertson has been very, very adament that Alexis has paid his dues and deserves to be on the field -- all season Gilbertson has talked about giving the ball 3 times to Alexis for every one time one of the younger kids gets the ball...To Husky fans, this means that Kenny James - an electifying young back who is much better than Alexis - will reamain on the sidelines.

Wide receiver Charles Frederick is listed as questionable and will be re-examined today (I will update if/when I hear anything) and his absence could be absolutely devastating to the Husky offense as he has been a great complement to an almost always double-team Reggie Williams...Our third receiver, Justin Robbins, will be having surgery and will miss the remainder of the year....If Frederick is limited, our offense will have big problems -- despite Oregon's poor secondary.

On defense, cornerback's Roc Alexander and Chris Massey are listed as questionable -- I personally feel that Oregon's Parker and Williams are way too much for a healthy Husky secondary -- if we are using 2nd teamers or our starters aren't 100%, we will get torched.....The only reason we stopped Oregon St. is because we stacked the line to stop Jackson and Derek Anderson is just plain horrible....The Duck offense will put up plenty of points....

Finally, in my humble opinion, Belotti is one of the best coaches in the country and the coaching match-up is a complete mis-match..Gilbertson is a great assistant coach, but he is in over his head.

Anyway, just some thoughts I wanted to pass along -- I won't be betting either way and will certainly be rooting for my Huskies -- but have serious reservations about their ability to get it done on Saturday.

GLTA
 

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I to am concerned about the mental makeup of this team after that loss last week.They had beaten OSU the week before and had high hopes of going on a end of season run like last year.If they win that game they very well could of done that.Now they face an Oregon team that is looking for revenge for what happened last season on their home field.Both of these teams have been disapointments this season so it should be interesting.
 

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Just curious here....You state, "Washington got worked for the second straight week,----well by the best team in the country right now". Are you actually stating that USC is the best team in the country??? Seriously??? Are you actually serious??? Are you telling me that a team from this years PAC TEN that lost to CAL is the best team in the country??? Are you telling me that a team from a conference this year that has probably three of the worst teams in college football, Arizona, Arizona State and Stanford is the number #1 team in all of college football??? Could you please tell me how you came up with this statement???....Otherwise a very entertaining write-up

Yours in Winners
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Bernie...

USC was the best team in the country LAST year and had TWO losses...what's your point.

Match USC up with any team in the country THIS year and I'd take USC..as a favorite.

USC has the best athletes in the country..BAR NONE. That includes Miami and Florida State. They're 1st year quarterback has better numbers than last year's Heisman Trophy winner. They have two...TWO...true freshman running backs that would start on any other team in the country, Miami, Oklahoma, you name it.

They did lose to Cal, one that falls squarely on the coach, especially the offensive coordinator. That is why they are not ranked 1 or 2. But they are ranked ahead of all other 1-loss teams. I'm guessing you think the coaches and writers are ignorant when it comes to judging talent...don't worry I do to.

I won't argue with you about Stanford and Arizona being bad teams...they are. But every conference has their pansies. Big 11 - Indiana and Illinois. Big 12 - Baylor and Iowa State. Big East - Temple and Rutgers. ACC - Duke and North Carolina...etc.

Do you want to compare non-conference schedules? USC's included Auburn, Notre Dame, and Hawaii...three bowl teams from last year. Oklahoma, in my opinion, has played an easier schedule than USC. Miami has a tough out-of-conference schedule with Florida and Florida State, but they do get to whoop up on temple, rutgers, as well as East Carolina and La Tech.

So there you go. It's a useless argument, because it won't get decided on the field. But if USC wins out, then we will talk later, because I think Miami and/or Oklahoma will lose by the end of the year, maybe even by sunday.

And just so you know...I Hate USC. But they have been $$$$$$ in the bank the past two years, and with the recruits this team has been getting the past two years, will be for years to come.
 

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Mildly worried about Washington's frame of mind. I hate quitters. But they should not be down on themself for losing to USC. Last time they had a major loss, and I count losing at home to Nevada a major loss, they came out firing on all cylinders. You mean to tell me they can't get up for Oregon????If Washington has one game circled the rest of the way out, I'm sure it is this one, because if they lose they will have to take so much shit from Duck Fan.

Washington has a great opportunity to win out the rest of the schedule and finish in 2nd or 3rd place...assuming USC beats WSU. That could potentially put them in the Rose Bowl if USC makes it to 1 or 2 in the BCS. Of course UCLA will have to lose three games, but that is possible with games at Washington State, Southern Cal, and, dare I say, Oregon, which always beats UCLA at UCLA.

Here's the deal. Teams get healthy playing Oregon. Look at Arizona State. They had two devestating losses against Oregon State and USC. Then they played Oregon and looked like world beaters. I've seen ASU and Washington both play twice, and Washington is by far the better team.

Washington's defense should line up the exact same way they did against Oregon State. 8 in the box and make Oregon's QB's Clemmons and Fife beat you. They can't, they are nearly as bad as Derrick Anderson at OSU. They will force throws and create turnovers. Washington should have two or three pics.

Again, my biggest concern is coaching. Just throw the ball downfield against Oregon. Hell, just pick up someone from the Track Team if Frederick can't go. Against Oregon's secondary, you don't even need to know how to run a route!
 

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i think oklahoma and usc are the big dogs right now.....

usc is a powerhouse....and appear to get stronger as the season rolls on....multi-faceted attack with runningback by committee...and that`s some committee...except none of them is as good as maurice drew....the next great college back....

i see w.c.`s point...
 

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Husky Injury Update

WR C. Frederick (shoulder/chest bruise) -- Will be re-examined tomorrow, but word is that he is having trouble breathing at night -- expect freshmen Shackelford to start and see plenty of action.

CB R. Alexander (Shoulder stinger) -- Doesn't look good. Coach Gilby's quote from yesterday is that "Roc needs to show us something pretty soon, or we're going to have to move on."

OL T. Sa'au (Back) -- Lingering injury that has been slower to recover each week -- Gilby is beginning to worry about long term effects.

CB C. Massey (Abdomen) -- OUT for Saturday.

TE J. Toledo (Ankle) -- OUT for Saturday.
 

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Just a reminder...USC WAS NOT the best team in the country last year...there is a thing called the National Championship you know...13-0
 

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Bucks,

Ohio State won the national championship. But on January 5, 2003 USC was the best football team in the nation.

Look, I'm not trying to take anything away from Ohio State. They had a tremendous year and deserved to win the BCS. But the BCS and the college bowl system is a joke. Just because a team goes undefeated doesn't make them the best team, it hypothetically makes them the best team. We'll never know who is since it isn't decided on the field.

So since we are dealing with hypotheticals, if USC had the opportunity to play Ohio State last year at the end of the season, they would have pitched a shut-out. They would have crushed OSU, just like they crushed Iowa...hypothetically speaking.
 

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Oregon.....LMAO!

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Go bucks and Bernie wake the "F" up..Bucks, I suppose your little boys are the best again this year?? sad...They lose to MU by 20 this year>>>>>>>>
 

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Good Job, WC Bias...Won big on the Huskies tonight....Looks like they really killed them in the 2cnd half...
 

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Very nice job WC. Congrats on you picks this week.

ps. Can I borrow that crystal ball of yours?
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keep up the great posts!

sam
 

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