Let's see, OU is supposed to win by what comes out to 4 scores against a 7-4 Buffs team that's in the BCS top 25. But Auburn, who beat Tennessee by 24 on the Vols home field earlier this year only has to give up 13. What's wrong with this picture? Do I detect an oddsmaker bias toward a Auburn-USC title game? ...Damn right I do. Everybody knows Tennessee is struggling bigtime right now. And I would even lay my money on Colorado if they were to play Tennessee. I believe after the BCS fiasco with OU last year, the Vegas (west coast bias) oddsmakers would like nothing more than to get OU out of the picture. They know it's going to be a heck of a lot more difficult for OU to cover 22 against Colorado in an outdoor night game in Kansas City than a nice warm indoor game for Auburn. Judging by many of the threads, I know a lot of people here probably feel the same way since just about everybody here is saying OU is just going to "squeak" by Colorado. I believe they set the line like this in hopes of a squeaker for OU and an Auburn blowout and a possible BCS turnaround for the second slot in the title game. Any opinions? :WTF:
Hey it is good to see another oklahoman here!! But I agree they just want you to bet both sides so they can make money!! I know OU will not cover the spread but they will win the game. And More amo for the Matt Lienart for the Heisman Campaine!:howdy: :howdy: :howdy:
Do you think voters--especially coaches--pay any attention to pointspreads, or do they just look at winners and how they performed on the field? Perhaps I am naive, but I don't think most coaches give a rip about pointspreads--they believe their team can win or lose every game and prepare accordingly. Many people like to accuse coaches of shaving points or piling on the score to cover a spread, but I don't think it happens much in reality. Coaches worry about x's & o's and winning. If their $$ and attention is on gambling and covering pointspreads, they won't be coaching very long.
I had to come back because I just saw who started this thread...
GoSooners...do you feel guilty about something? Is there a little voice in your head? Are there little green men in your BCS hedges? Been reading Smokinggun.com too much?
You seem to think a lot of people are out to screw Oklahoma. Last I checked they were ranked 2nd in the country and only a loss would keep them from playing in the national championship. There a pretty scary football team and in my eyes, USC, Oklahoma, or Auburn could win the national championship.
Relax big fella, you will get your shot at USC, no one will take that from you, so long as your team doesn't screw things up. Not the coaches, not the press, not the computers, not even the las vegas bookmakers!
GoSooners...do you feel guilty about something? Is there a little voice in your head? Are there little green men in your BCS hedges? Been reading Smokinggun.com too much?
You seem to think a lot of people are out to screw Oklahoma. Last I checked they were ranked 2nd in the country and only a loss would keep them from playing in the national championship. There a pretty scary football team and in my eyes, USC, Oklahoma, or Auburn could win the national championship.
Relax big fella, you will get your shot at USC, no one will take that from you, so long as your team doesn't screw things up. Not the coaches, not the press, not the computers, not even the las vegas bookmakers!
I don't believe the spread is as out of hand on OU's side as I see on Auburn's side. I guess there are a few that might take Tennessee. But I haven't seen many on this board. I believe the Auburn-Tennessee spread shoud have been around 21 points. And as for saying that coaches don't pay any attention to point spreads. I guess Pete Carroll did that fake punt with USC up 34-10 just for his pure enjoyment. Believe me, coaches are paying attention to the point spread. And if OU wins by just 3 points (like the 2000 championship team did) and Auburn goes out and wins by 40, I believe that could change miniscule amount of BCS points that seperate these 2 teams. I've seen stranger things happen. W.C.Bias I'm not a big conspiracy theorist like you think. But when I see something that doesn't look right happen before my eyes I question it. I'm betting you would question it if your Beavers were in that position. It's just the passion you have for your team and to see that they're getting a fair shake. In this case I have my doubts.
Being in middle America it's always been a given around here that there is a east & west coast bias against OU. That's where the majority of your sportswriters reside. If they have a few crappy things to say about OU, everybody tends to go with it.
It goes back to the days of Barry Switzer, who was pretty outspoken in his day. But he did nothing but win. I got a real laugh when I saw the broadcast of the 10 best college football coaches in history and Switzer was left off the list. Yet they included Bobby Bowden, who Switzer is something like 5-0 against. Joe Paterno, who Barry beat in the national title game. Woody Hayes, who Barry had a 1-0 record against. And the most ridiculous of all Tom Osborne, who Barry had something like a 14-4 record against. Switzer won more national titles 3, than any of these coaches and had one of the highest winning percentages in college football history. Yet he wasn't mentioned in the top 10?.... Ridiculous. Do I think there's a bias against OU? Man, if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat........
Being in middle America it's always been a given around here that there is a east & west coast bias against OU. That's where the majority of your sportswriters reside. If they have a few crappy things to say about OU, everybody tends to go with it.
It goes back to the days of Barry Switzer, who was pretty outspoken in his day. But he did nothing but win. I got a real laugh when I saw the broadcast of the 10 best college football coaches in history and Switzer was left off the list. Yet they included Bobby Bowden, who Switzer is something like 5-0 against. Joe Paterno, who Barry beat in the national title game. Woody Hayes, who Barry had a 1-0 record against. And the most ridiculous of all Tom Osborne, who Barry had something like a 14-4 record against. Switzer won more national titles 3, than any of these coaches and had one of the highest winning percentages in college football history. Yet he wasn't mentioned in the top 10?.... Ridiculous. Do I think there's a bias against OU? Man, if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat........
I just don't buy it, guys. For every example of a coach inexplicably running up the score, presumably to cover a spread, I'll bet there are 10 examples of coaches letting the clock run out without making efforts to cover the spread. While there are undoubtedly coaches who thrive on pointspreads and even wager on games themselves, I think they are in the minority.
Every time a kicker misses an extra point late in a game or a basketball team hits a meaningless 3 pointer at the final buzzer to cover a spread, I see posts from people who lost on the bet claiming the coaches, players, referees, clock operators, scorekeepers, radio announcers, fans, and custodians are all crooked and shaving points. I think many people are looking for something to blame a fluke loss on--they can't handle that it just happens sometimes!
Why did Carroll call for a fake punt in the 4th quarter up by 24? I don't know; no one knows but him. I agree it looks suspicious, but I won't automatically jump to the conclusion that he was covering a spread. Just my opinion.
Every time a kicker misses an extra point late in a game or a basketball team hits a meaningless 3 pointer at the final buzzer to cover a spread, I see posts from people who lost on the bet claiming the coaches, players, referees, clock operators, scorekeepers, radio announcers, fans, and custodians are all crooked and shaving points. I think many people are looking for something to blame a fluke loss on--they can't handle that it just happens sometimes!
Why did Carroll call for a fake punt in the 4th quarter up by 24? I don't know; no one knows but him. I agree it looks suspicious, but I won't automatically jump to the conclusion that he was covering a spread. Just my opinion.
Being from Oklahoma and now liveing in Texas, but still have good thoughts about the Sooners. I do in fact think the line on the Sooners is a tad high and the number on the Auburn game is more than a tad low. So i will play on the Sooners and hope for a run up score in the 4th quarter, as well as the Tigers.
My thoughts about Oklahoma and Auburn is exactly this, both teams will try everything in the play book to run up the score if at all possible. Sooners are more that capable of covering that 22 if the defense surrenders few points, Sooner offensive can score, and will score on the Buffs.
Auburn looks to run up the score to increase chances of a change in the standings and most likely will run up nice easy cover of that 13 that the linemaker has installed them as in Atlanta.
I suppose that is why they play these conference champonship games.
There is soooooooo much difference in the Big 12 north vs the south is not even funny, if that is close to proper wording.
After Sooners lost to Kansas State last year, i presume that Stoops will have them ready to play this year. QB White was injured last year in that game and it showed down once again when LSU beat them in that "tuff" to play dome that they have there.
Look for Sooners and Tigers to extend thier winning ways in a big way.
My thoughts about Oklahoma and Auburn is exactly this, both teams will try everything in the play book to run up the score if at all possible. Sooners are more that capable of covering that 22 if the defense surrenders few points, Sooner offensive can score, and will score on the Buffs.
Auburn looks to run up the score to increase chances of a change in the standings and most likely will run up nice easy cover of that 13 that the linemaker has installed them as in Atlanta.
I suppose that is why they play these conference champonship games.
There is soooooooo much difference in the Big 12 north vs the south is not even funny, if that is close to proper wording.
After Sooners lost to Kansas State last year, i presume that Stoops will have them ready to play this year. QB White was injured last year in that game and it showed down once again when LSU beat them in that "tuff" to play dome that they have there.
Look for Sooners and Tigers to extend thier winning ways in a big way.
I can't blame Carroll at all for running up the score. Stoops has done it too. Barry Switzer used to hang a half a hundred on by half and brag about it later. My theory is if you don't have a good team, then get better or expect a good whipping. I suffered through 5 bad years of OU getting waxed every other weekend. But I didn't blame the other teams. I blamed the idiot coaches we hired. This BCS mess kind of brings out the ugly in coaches. But the way the system is set up, in my opinion they have no choice. :finger:
Hey it's great to hear from a good ole California Okie. I've got many friends who live out there and I used to spend my summers in San Francisco when I was a kid. Believe me I rather be there than here this time of year. It's cold here.OKSOONER said:GoSooners you have expressed my thoghts completly. I now live in SoCal, but all my family and freinds are there in oklahoma. We do nothing but win!!!arty:
