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The age ole question:

When renting a car do you pay for the added insurance?

Wheres TimeToPay?

Any insurance guy's out there want to tell us when renting a car and what liability were taking and so forth.


Also any Waikiki veterans as hotel wants $20 a night valet parking.....WTF

Was thinking of parking the car at Ala Moana and taking a bus back home but might get ripped.


Thanks in advance.
 
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The age ole question:

When renting a car do you pay for the added insurance?

Wheres TimeToPay?

Any insurance guy's out there want to tell us when renting a car and what liability were taking and so forth.


Also any Waikiki veterans as hotel wants $20 a night valet parking.....WTF

Was thinking of parking the car at Ala Moana and taking a bus back home but might get ripped.


Thanks in advance.

I'm not a Insurance guy, But I do know as long as you have Liability insurance with Your own car. You don't need to use their ( car Rental )
Innsurance.

But it might not be the same everywhere, check with your insurance company.
 
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Any credit card worth a shit (or your own insurance) will cover it.

Don't believe their bullshit-they make a small fortune off of it.
 

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Do you really need car rental insurance?When I first turned 25 and passed the magical barrier that allowed me to rent a car, I routinely dismissed the sales pitches for collision damage waiver (CDW) and other insurance products. This had nothing to do with carefully researched consumer advocacy and everything to do with youthful hubris and ignorance.
That changed one cold midnight at a rental counter, when I was holding my sleeping son and fighting off fatigue. After listening to the pitch for CDW, I considered the precious cargo in my arms and impulsively paid for what turned out to be double coverage. I didn't know at the time that some rental firms intentionally wait until the last minute to hard-sell insurance options — or that some rental agents get incentives to push CDW at the counter.
The fact is, millions of renters don't need to pay for CDW. Many savvy travelers know this, and they pride themselves on automatically rejecting all sales pitches for rental insurance add-ons. However, they also can be so savvy that they leave themselves vulnerable to tremendous losses.
Buying CDW may make sense for you, or it may not. But the time to shop for it is long before you arrive at the counter with a sleeping baby in your arms.
To buy or not to buy
Most drivers are adequately covered for the average rental (assuming it's for pleasure and not business). To assess your own status, here's a rundown of the steps you should take:
Check your personal auto policy. If you own a car, talk to your insurance agent. The same coverage and deductibles you carry on your car will apply — in most cases — to a vehicle you rent for pleasure. But be careful: If your policy provides skimpy coverage, you may need to compute the value of the loss or damage of a brand-new vehicle and decide if you need to supplement it. For example, many owners of older cars don't always carry comprehensive coverage for accidents, fire and theft.
Check your coverage by your charge card company. This can be tricky because not only does coverage vary from card to card, but it can vary based on the bank or credit company that issued the card as well. And it's very important that you inquire about exclusions because some exotic or expensive vehicles — such as sports cars, SUVs, motor homes and motorcycles — may not be covered. And vehicles rented outside the U.S. may not be covered, either.
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There are other factors that may influence you to buy insurance through a car rental company or travel insurance provider. These include driving under unfamiliar circumstances or driving in another country. Or you may want to avoid the hassles of dealing with repair bills and deductibles.
In addition, if you don't own a car or you rent cars very often, you should ask your insurance agent about buying a non-owner liability policy. For a few hundred dollars a year, it can provide ample coverage for multiple rentals and may prove to be a better bargain than CDW.
Options galore
If you've determined that your existing coverage is not fully adequate, you'll be faced with a variety of products to purchase.
Here are the four types of optional insurance offered by most major car rental firms:
CDW (collision damage waiver) and LDW (loss damage waiver). This relieves you of financial responsibility for a rental vehicle damaged by an accident, vandalism or theft. It usually costs between $9 and $20 per day. Note: Although the sale of CDW was formerly prohibited in New York state, recent legislative changes now allow it.
SLI (supplemental liability insurance). This provides excess liability coverage up to $1 million. It usually costs between $7 and $9 per day.
PAI (personal accident insurance). This covers you and all passengers in your vehicle for any medical expenses. It's not necessary for most renters already covered by personal health policies or travel policies. It usually costs between $3 and $5 per day.
PEC (personal effects coverage). This provides coverage for theft of or damage to personal items inside the rental car. Again, it replicates coverage already provided to many renters through their own insurance policies. It usually costs between $2 and $5 per day.
Rental companies make these options even more confusing by combining two or more into insurance packages. Each product should be evaluated separately. First determine if you have a need for the service, and then verify if you are not already covered. Finally, of course, you have to comparison-shop the costs. Note that in some leisure hot-spots, the cost of taxes, fees, surcharges and optional insurance can easily exceed the daily base rate of the rental itself.
Help on the Web
For further information, check out the car rental company's Web site to examine the insurance options. But be aware that most firms don't post prices on their sites; for that, you'll have to call the toll-free reservations line with the specifics of your rental.
Here are some other sites that could prove useful:
Risk & Insurance Management, a program sponsored by the University of Utah that includes insurance coverage analysis.
U.S. Public Interest Research Group is a national advocacy office, with links to individual state PIRGs.
The Insurance Information Institute, a New York-based organization dedicated to "improving public understanding of insurance."
• Several state governments provide helpful advice via the Internet for consumers buying auto rental insurance. One of the more comprehensive Web sites is maintained by the New York State Insurance Department.
One last word
Car rental firms use a variety of methods to assess your credit and/or insurance records prior to renting. And some of these methods may affect your credit rating.
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Bill McGee, a contributing editor to Consumer Reports and the former editor of Consumer Reports Travel Letter, is an FAA-licensed aircraft dispatcher who worked in airline operations and management for several years. Tell him what you think of his latest column by sending him an e-mail at USATODAY.com at travel@usatoday.com. Include your name, hometown and daytime phone number, and he may use your feedback in a future column.
 

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Back when I managed an ERAC, i would sell your ass on it and you would like it...but you really probably don't need it....

you have liability to cover any damages, but you don't want to get dinged for something you didn/t do-like getting jacked in the parking lot while you are inside...

even if you don't get the "damage waiver" and end up with some kind of damage that won't be subrugated out to another insurance company, you can sometimes work a plan out with the rental car company to keep it from your ins co.

fyi..ERAC is self insured, and damage waiver sales go into a pool to help the co. remain self insured...there is very little profit from the sale of one damage waiver..
 

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Looking around Enterprise had the best prices in your opinion they have the better insurance liability?

Any tips on how to upgrade to a larger full size like van or s.u.v. with out paying $400 for a week?
 
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Do you really need a van or suv? Anyway you can make it on a midsize for half the cost and also save a ton on gas?
 

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the insurance is a RIP OFF

if u really want the coverage..call ur insurance company(agent) and tell them u are renting...they can add insurance for a specific period (one week pro-rated) and u will be totally covered.....at the rental place it cost between 60-200$ extra per week depending on coverage amount and that adds up to 3000-10000 a year...NO ONE u know pays that much insurance for any car per year.

bottom line

stay away


also suggestion is use a internet service to help u get better rates...i know some use priceline.....also another option is tell them u have another offer from other rental company for a free upgrade, but there office is closer so will they match it...when in doubt lie...trust me they will do it. :drink:

GL

-murph
 

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Thanks murph.....car rentals in Hawaii is probably very competitive I would guess.
 

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I used to rent cars back in the day and we got paid commission on selling insurance. The car rental agencies use a crappy formula when paying you commission. Instead of paying you a straight percentage on the insurance you sell, they factor in how many cars you have rented out for the month by the number of days they are out and if you have a decent amount of cars on rent with insurance you can make up to 15% commission on the insurance you sell. However if you have a lot of cars out for rent for a lot of days without insurance you could only wind up making 2% of the insurance you sell. We used to turn down people who needed a rental because their car was being repaired and their own auto-insurance was picking up the bill because repairs can take weeks sometime and that hurts your average.

The only advantage to getting the insurance is say you are driving to Vegas or something for the weekend and you don't drink and drive. It might be worth it to cover the rental car for the weekend because insurance costs like $9.00 a day while your deductible if any damage to the car can be $250-$1000 if you go through your own auto insurance. Plus the car rental insurance is no questions asked so your accident doesn't get reported to the DMV.

Here is a car rental tip. the car rental agent also gets commission on any vehicle upgrade the give you from a reservation. So reserve a mid-size car next time and negotiate an upgrade a little extra change. Typically when you reserve a larger size car they charge you more money then if you upgrade from a smaller size vehicle.
 

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