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I jumped all over columnist Jon Wilner for his "lack of insight" when he posted his expected order of finish in the Pac-10. Today he's redeemed himself. There's lot here to think about and watch for.

I just wish he had mentioned Jacquizz Rogers. If that kid gets loose in the Stanford secondary, this could be a very long day for the Cardinal. A lot of people here probably don't think OSU's QB Lyle Moevao can do anything better than he barely managed last year. I think he's by far the better of the 2 QB's starting tonight. Some kids learn a lot in a year. I think Moevao is one if them.

My biggest interest in this game is to see how well OSU's offense has developed compared to an anemic squad in '07. I expect to see a lot more offense in this game, at least on one side of things. Staford lost 2 OL's this past week and one of their starting WR's, a position which they are already very thin at.

Good luck to all you "under" players tonight. I think you'll hit.

Enjoy.

Stanford vs. Oregon State: 10 things to watch ….

Posted by Jon Wilner on August 27th, 2008 at 12:14 pm


I expect to attend Stanford’s season opener against Oregon State. Merc beat writer Darren Sabedra and columnist Tim Kawakami are also planning to attend, which means …
There will be at least three people in Stanford Stadium on Thursday night. Ba-da-bing!
Sorry, I couldn’t resist a Stanford attendance joke, since Stanford’s attendance has been something approaching a joke for the past six years.

I expect tens of thousands of empty seats Thursday.
Think about it: The Cardinal isn’t supposed to be very good (again). The Beavers are hardly a big draw. It’s a 6 p.m. start (tough for working folks), and it’s on TV.
Sure, the ESPN2 exposure is good for recruiting. But you know what’s bad for recruiting? Rows and rows of empty seats.
Will there even be 25,000 people in the stadium? I’ll be watching. As for the football, I’ll also be watching:
* Oregon State receiver Sammie Stroughter when he lines up against Stanford cornerback Wopamo Osaisai.
That should be the best matchup of the game: Stroughter is a first-class playmaker, while Osaisai’s one of the most gifted cover corners in the conference.
* To see if Stanford’s best defensive players (Clinton Synder, Bo McNally, Pannel Egboh and Osaisai) disrupt the Beavers’ rhythm.
Will they create turnovers, collapse the pocket and energize the crowd with punishing hits — all the things playmakers are supposed to do?
* Stanford tailback Toby Gerhart, who missed all but one game last year because of a knee injury. Does he have that extra gear needed to get through a seam or around a corner?
* Cardinal guards Chase Beeler and Andrew Phillips — both first time starters — to see if they can handle Oregon State’s array of stunts and blitzes?
OSU defensive coordinator Mark Banker is one of the best in the business; he’ll sniff out and expose any and all weaknesses.
* To see if Oregon State attacks Cardinal free safety Taylor Skaufel, who’s replacing injured starter Austin Yancy.
The guess here is yes, the Beavers will challenge Skaufel early and often. OSU Coach Mike Riley loves the downfield passing game.
* Stanford’s perimeter defenders, especially outside linebackers Snyder and Pat Maynor. Will they keep containment on mobile OSU quarterback Lyle Moevao?
* To see if Stanford makes the most of its scoring opportunities. The Cardinal made just over 50 percent of its field goals last season and scored touchdowns on under 50 percent of its trips into the red zone.
* To see what trick plays Cardinal Coach Jim Harbaugh cooked up, over the past eight months, for the season opener.
* And lastly, I’ll be watching Stanford quarterback Tavita Pritchard.
Will he tuck the ball and run at the first hint of pressure, or stay in the pocket until the last second, buying his receivers valuable time to break open?
Will he connect on downfield passes against a very good OSU secondary, or be content to check down to his backs and tight ends? Pritchard completed 97 passes last season, and his longest was for just 42 yards.
Stanford can’t win (Thursday or any day) without a few big plays.
 

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Thanks, Conan . . . .
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I like Oregon State, but w/ all the questions on D...this first month, esp. this first game is a stay away one for me. I would not doubt that they are positive v. the spread at the end of the season.

Stanford - I like Harbaugh and what he did at USD, but just do not think this is the season.
 

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I like Oregon State, but w/ all the questions on D...this first month, esp. this first game is a stay away one for me. I would not doubt that they are positive v. the spread at the end of the season.

Stanford - I like Harbaugh and what he did at USD, but just do not think this is the season.

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I have heard plenty of good things about Oregon St's defense again. They might not need much time to gel because they do return plenty of experience.

However, the big question at this point is their OL. A walk-on guard and Perry and Thompson both out for tonight. It will be a month or more before they are back to full strength.
 

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Thanks Conan...I was originally on Stanford. But I think I'm going to leave the game alone and see what happens in this first week...Good luck
 

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Thanks Conan...I was originally on Stanford. But I think I'm going to leave the game alone and see what happens in this first week...Good luck

GoSooners, I don't know if you've seen it yet but the Beavers have been getting bet up today, line now 3.5.... FWIW

I think there's a good chance the Beavers will go up 14-0 in the 1st Q or 1st H before you ever hear from Stanford. Their 1st Quarter scoring last season was something like 130-27.

(all just speculation for tonight of course)
 

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Would love to see Stroughter bounce back this year, but am still very skeptical about his mental state.
 

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GoSooners, I don't know if you've seen it yet but the Beavers have been getting bet up today, line now 3.5.... FWIW
Wrong! CRIS, Greek, Grande, all have -3 or -3-05. My sharpest out has -2.5 -05. Good Luck
 

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Wrong! CRIS, Greek, Grande, all have -3 or -3-05. My sharpest out has -2.5 -05. Good Luck

Well if you like Stanford you should play them at Bodog. 3.5 -105. That move was within 1/2 hour before I posted that. May be what's trending so wait up if you want to bet that number at another shop.
 

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Well if you like Stanford you should play them at Bodog. 3.5 -105. That move was within 1/2 hour before I posted that. May be what's trending so wait up if you want to bet that number at another shop.
Bodog! LMFAO CRIS just went to -2.5.
 

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Well if you like Stanford you should play them at Bodog. 3.5 -105. That move was within 1/2 hour before I posted that. May be what's trending so wait up if you want to bet that number at another shop.

Like Oregon State myself but one large correction. You should NEVER play them at Bodog. Never play anyone at Bodog. Horrible book
 

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Bodog! LMFAO CRIS just went to -2.5.

Thanks for that update BP.... I just made that bet. Been waiting to see if it moved down off of 3 for a while. That was good news. Thanks again.

PS... Goblue, I agree. My bodog account had some poker money left in there. I think after this weekend I'm going to do a book to book transfer and send my balance to CRIS. (bookmaker) Bodog sux. They don't even put their lines up until a day or 2 before the games go. I'm not even going to hassle a payout, just going to transfer my funds as mentioned to another book.
 

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Conan, I wasn't being critical towards you in anyway. Just a heads up. Good luck this season.
 

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Conan, I wasn't being critical towards you in anyway. Just a heads up. Good luck this season.

Yeah the timing of that was kind of funny. I think this game could be a mismatch other than the fact that Harbaugh will get the Cardinal to play hard. They may stay in it and make it a game. But speed and skillwise there's no comparison between these teams.

5 hours to go!!!

BOL2U2 pal.
 

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You'll need to watch for actual Stanford fans at the stadium too as they don't appear to have many. Pathetic not only for an opener in a 2nd year stadium, but in conference play as well.
 

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You'll need to watch for actual Stanford fans at the stadium too as they don't appear to have many. Pathetic not only for an opener in a 2nd year stadium, but in conference play as well.

All that hype about how Harbaugh has the school all excited about football again is 50% BS. It's the same old same old. The Cardinal has had some lucky breaks but the Beavers have made their own. I think the Beaver O is just beginning to get warmed up. Straughter and Moevao are starting to look like a machine.
 

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Conan what do you think about these Rodgers brothers? They are fun to watch. I'm not a big Pac-10 guy, I haven't heard much about them before tonight.
 

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Conan what do you think about these Rodgers brothers? They are fun to watch. I'm not a big Pac-10 guy, I haven't heard much about them before tonight.

James is back for his second season. As a WR he ran their fly sweep dozens of times for about a 12 yard avg. last year. He's the faster of the two but Jacquizz makes people miss with his ability to cut on a dime a la Barry Sanders. He set records in Texas as a prep last year, the State of Texas player of the year in HS. If he ever gets a little space downfield he's gone. (Pretty much the same for his brother James but he uses speed to run away from tacklers instead of making them miss like Jacquizz does.)
 

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All that hype about how Harbaugh has the school all excited about football again is 50% BS. It's the same old same old. The Cardinal has had some lucky breaks but the Beavers have made their own. I think the Beaver O is just beginning to get warmed up. Straughter and Moevao are starting to look like a machine.

Rest assured Harbaugh is already counting his days. This guy is going to do big things in both the college and pro game. One day we'll all look back and laugh about how he started at Stanford. Anyway, sorry about this Beaver performance tonite. FWIW, I still think Canfield is better than the laughing, pudgy Moevao.
 

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I tell you what, I'm more than a little impressed with Stanford tonight. Take away that OSU drive at the very end of the first half -- which was executed beautifully, by the way, and the Cardinal defense has been tough as heck tonight.
 

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