Oregon St. / Arizona St.

[Conan]

I've been trying to get a bead on this game all week. Several angles that I find interesting....

First of all, the Beavers, though this is their Pac-10 opener have next week's home opener to think about which is against Cal, one of the heavy hitters in the Pac-10 and there's some revenge on their minds next week. That doesn't bode well for them in this game.

Secondly, you've got Arizona State that just came off their biggest revenge game of the year and they quite possibly blew their wads vs. Iowa. So how do you pick a side? If anything, I'd lean toward Or.St. with the TD+ and expect to see a good tight contest. but......

There are a lot more reasons to expect to see both teams somewhat out of their normal concentration zone here. I think this one will be a much more deliberately played defensive game than we've seen from either team in past weeks so I'm headed under in this contest.

The Beaver defense has been looking pretty solid considering. TOs killed them in the Boise game but they were rather bogus ones. The 3 deflected picks that led to TDs the way they did in that game wouldn't happen again in a million years and I don't think you'll see any redshirts coming out of the end zone to get burried on the 5 yard line either like happened twice. So the Boise game wasn't nearly as lopsided as the score sorta suggested...

The 57 1/2 is pretty rich so I'll go under the game total. This line is designed to make the squares pay dearly for wanting to go over. I think the under is the smart play here.

 

[WinOne]

Conan,

I'm gonna step up and take the points and hope the Beavers PK can make their FG's. They missed a cover against UNM because of easy misses. ASU has has no run game at all and they will be working into the strength of the Beavers (pass defense). Beavs only give up 4.5yd/att in the air and if they can play the run with 5 and drop the other 6, the young receivers at ASU may get rattled, especially if Beavers can limit Hagans touches at WR.

 

[oldmanTED]

Conan:

Absolutely no disrespect intended here as I believe you are honestly looking for feedback, and I feel a comment might be helpful here. You started your thread by stating that you have been trying all week to get a bead on this game. If this is the case, then why not pass on this game? There are many to choose from, both sides and totals, so why press on a game that you are not confident in how it may play out? Nothing wrong with passing on a game and looking for a better spot. I am considering a play on this game as well, but at the moment, the game only remains a possibility as I work my short list down. The quickest way to watch your bankroll shrink is to play games that your opinion is not strong. Whatever you decide, best of luck.

 

[CoachLT]

Point well taken, Ted. If you have to guess, it is probably best to pass it up. LT

 

[Conan]

Thanks you guys.

I'm not touching the side here but some of the things on my mind seemed to fall into place. I do like the under here. The Beaver defense has been much improved over last year and they were good even then. I think they know their own conference better too. They will own the ground which is why I lean towards them on the side, but you gotta respect Az.St.'s offense in a tight game. Still the pointspread is probably a bit skewed considering their blowoout last weekend. It should suck in plenty of favorite bettors so the dog is the likely play, but not likely enough in my mind. 24-27 points will win this game. I feel confident about that. The under is the best play in this game IMHO.

 

[IDENTITY]

conan

conan - where does STEVEH post nowadays? thank you sir.

 

[Conan]

I got his phone number ID... I'll ask.


BTW General... what happened to my 8000 posts?

 

[IDENTITY]

conan - please remind me of some of the other posters from back in the day. thank you sir.

 

[Conan]

ID... It would be a lot easier for me had 8300 posts or so not disappeared from my handle. I'd just look it up. I do remember Heatwave very well though. But you know and so do I that there are some I'm racking my brain to remember. Coupl'a pals here I've been waiting up on to show. Somofabich, now you got me going. There's one linemaker and a couple guys who worked for Carib and Wagerweb in particular... even a couple dickheads I remember that nobody liked. But here's the shortlist of who I do remember...

GM... A canadian guy who hated me at first but later we became friends
Ironlock... What a temper... but a decent man.
Felice... the lady who generally kicked everybody's ass in CFB picken only dogs.
Bobbybride... Mr. NHL himself (is he still here?)
NorthernIce... Mr. NHL #2
Katwoman... knows more about the crooks in CR than all of us combined
Samantha... Victim of circumstance (remember JR?) Her mom was also a real trip.
Dante... a mod here
Joe... another mod... who can forget Joe.
Peep... Ditto
Braveheart... just a good guy
Cecil... Ditto
Marty... straight up guy BM at Hollywood
Eric C... Teenage jerkoff from Alberta who's posting is responsible for Olympic's departure. Wally and Spiro will not forget.
bblight... but I think he's still around. I'll never forget his bb gun to the head plays. Dayum... that was early 1999

A couple others who I can't mention because I only know their real names. But I will forever mention ("Bill") Lance Costa from NAB, SBA, Majorbetting Dunes who married a Columbian hooker and stole perhaps millions from internet gamblers before he disappeared. Actually I think the real reason he split was because his penis enlargement operation failed. (AKA:The Pussy")

BTW, tex2mex... I've yet to sample one of your famous burritos but I haven't forgotton.

PS I really like this play a lot.

 

[Conan]

By the way ID...

It's a bit disheartening that I can't access my early posts. I became a mod here after running some contests in the forums. One I didn't run was run by Ironlock... "The Dr." Col Hoops contest where I just happened to get real hot towards the end and picked 10 straight winners to take the title. Right here in this forum. I'm generally not one to gloat as we all have fond memories of some of our winning streaks etc... But one of my happiest moments was when I took a victory lap after the contest was finished and posted 5-0 the next day. There were a bunch of people here who parlayed those 5 selections and no doubt a few of them bought Cadillacs when it hit. That sh*t makes me feel good. My next post I won the first 3 then lost leaving me with an alltime winning streak of 18.

I've always been pretty sharp at Col betting so I hope to have some similar measure of success this season in both football and hoops. I usually sweep the Pac-10 board once a season or come very close to it. I'd like to see that happen again this season. I come here because there are some other very knowledgable cappers who like the same conferences I follow. Namely, Prophet, WC Bias, Winky, bblight, Winone... a few others including Panther who gets his share of hot streaks.

I don't make book and I don't run any services... I'm just a guy who likes betting sports and has been at it long enough to understand that game. I've been offered jobs at several books, especially in their PR depts but I politely refused because I own my own electronics manufacturing company and don't need the drama.

 

[winkyduck]

good to hear from ya conan. probably sure fire ya off an e-mail. as for BB - me and a few others here are on an e-mail listing with him - i will talk about this in the e-mail.

 

[Conan]

Sure Winky,

I was just thinking the same thing. I guess somehow we got our own personal addys now in Dave's address book. I still look forward to your opinions, especially your Orange County schools expertise, Big West too. (Pacific looks like the sh*t this year don't they? LB St. will still keep eating the big one too.)

 

[ProphetablePicks]

Conan,
I would go with the under here as well.Oregon State would love to bring ASU back down to earth and get back on track and at the same time ASU is playing with a different intensity this year.I of course was on them big last week and I will be at the game this week again but until they prove to me that they can put together a streak of good games this line and game does scare me.I see it as a 23-17 type game as both denfense wil step up here and ASU will not have the success they did last week on offense and on the defensive side of the ball ASU will give Anderson fits.The under once again is looking strong here as many will be on the over due to Walters preformance last week.I will be posting it soon in my thread.


good luck!

 

[Conan]

Notice the date of this thread. 7 Years ago. (Final score in the game was 27-14, an easy cover.)
It would seem that not much has changed. This preceded USC's run or was right at the beginning.
There happened to be a lot of interesting other things said in this thread too.

 

[outhousetim]

Can you explain this one? It sounds like there is quite a story to it. Thanks.

Eric C... Teenage jerkoff from Alberta who's posting is responsible for Olympic's departure. Wally and Spiro will not forget.

 

[Conan]

I'd have to rack my brain Tim. I'll remember it sooner or later but at one time Spiro was pretty fed up with some of the goings on here.... of course that was ancient history by now but I will let it settle in my mind and see what surfaces. Too bad because both men are class acts. (Spiro and Wally his manager)